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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEvangelicals DESPERATELY trying to convince themselves that Trump is devout Christian:
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/evangelicals-think-trump-uses-secret-hand-signals-to-show-hes-really-a-devout-christian/In a Bloomberg report on Trumps courting of the Evangelical vote, we learn that at one recent meeting with Trump, evangelical leaders noted how he often flashes a signature hand gesture, with a thumb out and a finger point to the sky, as he enters and exits rallies.
Why could this possibly matter, you ask? Well let Trump-supporting televangelist Pastor Mark Burns explain.
You see athletes do it all the time and its their chance to point to the sky, to thank God for their success, he told Bloomberg. Trump does this all of the time, too. Hes giving reverence to the man upstairs. Even with Mr. Trumps billions of dollars, he too still submits himself to God.
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"He points his finger! Did you see that? He points his finger at the sky!
Donald Trump is a devout Christian!
He doesn't know the Bible, but he points his finger at the sky!
He is a selfish and greedy man who does not care about the meek and the poor, but he points his finger at the sky!
He doesn't turn his other cheek but insults and belittles anybody who draws his ire, but he points his finger at the sky!
He points his finger at the sky!!!
My dear brothers, we should vote for Donald Trump. You may abhor what he says and you may abhor what he does and you may abhor what he represents, but he points his finger at the sky."
liberal N proud
(60,332 posts)Yet they have no problem accepting Trump and his demented form of whatever.
Hypocrites!
RogueTrooper
(4,665 posts)when it has an R next to its name.
merrily
(45,251 posts)evangelicals mean by "Christian" is certain behaviors that don't include things like several wives. So, if they find it in their, um, hearts to back Trump, their issue is not Christianity, as they define that word.
I, for one, am shocked.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)If they'd stayed married and simply accumulated multiple wives, that would be preferable. Lots of Biblical leaders had multiple wives.
merrily
(45,251 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)LiberalCatholic
(91 posts)That is expressly forbidden in the bible.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)They also don't care about King David and Solomon having a shitload of wives.
As long as they favor someone then "God has forgiven all his sins" and that's the end of it.
Zen Democrat
(5,901 posts)Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)should take it up with King Salomon.
roamer65
(36,744 posts)Trumpf's "personal Vietnam" was sleeping with as many women as possible and not getting a STD.
yellowcanine
(35,693 posts)Just askin.'
RogueTrooper
(4,665 posts)it's hard to tell
Albertoo
(2,016 posts)Trump is not even making an effort to pretend he knows (or respects) the Bible.
And evangelicals want to call him their own? Good luck with that
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)Albertoo
(2,016 posts)The GOP has saddled itself with the burden of the anti-science evangelicals.
As religiosity decreases, the evangelicals are becoming more and more of a GOP liability.
And Trump is many things, fickle, abusive, macho, egotistical, but racist?
I think it's just blue collar populism: law, order and protecting jobs.
Cosmocat
(14,558 posts)Having a rational discussion about what is "racism" or who might be "racist" is pretty hard these days.
Not saying that is an issue with your replies.
I don't toss the terms around a lot because they are so overworn and people get all emotional over them, either way. Further, we all have our biases and the such.
That said ...
I think in terms of having ill feelings toward people of color, I don't think that is necessarily the case with Trump. He has a general disdain for ANYONE not the Donald that covers most of that.
But, he most certainly has a LOT of, and very hard and fast, categorizations relative to people generally, and based on color and nationality.
The dude is Archie Bunker in expensive suits.
classykaren
(769 posts)wallyworld2
(375 posts)He's almost convinced both Corinthians to support him
Ilsa
(61,690 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)dembotoz
(16,785 posts)but then again....my dear passed mother in law who was fundie would go on and on about how mormons were a cult.
but i am pretty damn sure her church where she took the classes that said it was a cult went all in for romney....
greymattermom
(5,751 posts)converted to Orthodox Judiasm. Not many evangelicals will like that. She said no to Jesus.
Richard D
(8,741 posts)Was there an 11th commandment that said "Thou shalt be stupid"?
Initech
(100,038 posts)Though he is just as much of a hateful bigot as most evangelicals are.
mountain grammy
(26,598 posts)From the charlatan preachers to trump himself, and too many Americans are gullible enough to fall for it all.
Cosmocat
(14,558 posts)trumps all ...
Anyone who does not think the fundies, and every other group of hateful pods who the CONS have culled into their group won't get behind WTF they nominate, regardless of how abhorrent he or she is, has not been paying attention to the last 40 years ...
End of the day, whatever means are necessary to defeat the evil liberal boogyman are justified.
LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)description. Always touting how much she loves Jesus, and in the same breath spewing hatred for liberals. She'll proudly vote for the racist, phony Christian gasbag Trump. Hell, if Charles Manson was the Repuke nominee, she'd gladly for him. These brainwashed types are real pieces of work.
Cosmocat
(14,558 posts)I just don't get it ...
But, is is there, for a LOT of people, people who are otherwise fairly decent people.
Zambero
(8,962 posts)In this instance religion is used to enable politics, not to advise it. Once under the banner of "righteousness", the sky's the limit. A vulgar, lying, and bullying candidate such as Donald Trump? Policies that enable and intensify income inequality and poverty? No problem. It's all in the label.
sorefeet
(1,241 posts)these people false prophets. Can't Christians realize when someone is blowing smoke up their ass??
gordianot
(15,233 posts)They strongly desire to have their pockets picked.
immoderate
(20,885 posts)Trump plays it well. But then Hillary has "the Family."
Some people like throwing up!
--imm
Vogon_Glory
(9,109 posts)I have little respect for right-wing Evangelicals' hand-signal analysis. They're voting for the Donald because of their fear of the "other" and because they're just as happy with steel-toed boots on the necks of the poor and down-trodden as their more secular right-wing buddies.
Having inadvertently come across the dreck many religious right "researchers" spew about Hillary, who is a church-going Methodist, I don't doubt they'd use the same bogus "methodology" to "prove" that Hillary is a practicing Satanist.