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cali

(114,904 posts)
Tue May 24, 2016, 03:55 PM May 2016

So what exactly is Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe being investigated for?

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First, the facts: CNN reported the investigation's existence Monday afternoon and seemed to suggest that the inquiry may include McAuliffe's connection to a Chinese billionaire businessman, Wang Wenliang, who has donated to McAuliffe's campaign.

The Washington Post's Matt Zapotosky reported Monday evening that the investigation may be much broader than McAuliffe's ties to Wang. An unnamed government official told Zapotosky that investigators have been scrutinizing McAuliffe's personal finances: "including personal bank records, tax returns and public disclosure forms that date back many years -- and are interested in foreign sources of income."
If true, both those investigations -- and they really are dealing with two different subjects, campaign finances and personal finances -- are serious, says John Dunbar, the political director at the Center for Public Integrity and a campaign finance expert.

"Broadly speaking, any donation that's connected to a foreign national is going to attract a heck of a lot of attention from state and federal investigators," he said (for reasons we'll get into below). But it's also rare for investigators to actually launch an investigation, which takes a ton of public resources, he said.

"If it's in fact true, then it's definitely serious," Dunbar said.

Then there's the question of how McAuliffe's personal finances may fold into this, which raises a whole other set of questions and implications we'll get to.

We spoke with Dunbar and combed through appropriate campaign finance laws to try to better understand what, exactly, the FBI and the Justice Department are investigating about McAuliffe (D). With the caveat that we can't answer that question yet, here's what we do know:

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/05/24/so-what-exactly-is-virginia-gov-terry-mcauliffe-being-investigated-for/

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So what exactly is Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe being investigated for? (Original Post) cali May 2016 OP
the CNN reporter who broke this story keeps alluding to other matters. grasswire May 2016 #1
I heard he was a director on the board of the Clinton slush fund. I imagine when they're roguevalley May 2016 #32
this is how it works grasswire May 2016 #37
Ironically he still isn't as bad as our previous governor... Blue_Tires May 2016 #2
And you know this how? truebluegreen May 2016 #4
Well he hasn't threatened any vagina probing gwheezie May 2016 #6
Methinks your criteria leaves an overly-large amount of room truebluegreen May 2016 #16
It's a starting point but gwheezie May 2016 #23
That's the problem with some democrats; By not being as bad as their predecessors, they get our vote Ned_Devine May 2016 #29
Hard to vote for the better dem that isn't running gwheezie May 2016 #31
I hear ya' Ned_Devine May 2016 #36
I can tell you aren't a Virginian... Blue_Tires May 2016 #20
No kidding. Google will help with that :) n/t phylny May 2016 #26
I'm well aware of the cooch truebluegreen May 2016 #39
I think he's been a very good governor for our commonwealth. eom. Raine1967 May 2016 #10
which one? the vagina grifter or this new one? roguevalley May 2016 #33
Was that supposed to make anyone feel better? I thought the lesser of two evils was a no-no. floriduck May 2016 #21
Have you met ken Kookienelli? gwheezie May 2016 #24
My response was to Bluetires. And I was comparing present and past governors. Not Kenny loser. floriduck May 2016 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow May 2016 #3
K&R LiberalArkie May 2016 #5
K & R! TIME TO PANIC May 2016 #7
From my reading . . . gratuitous May 2016 #8
lol ffr May 2016 #9
The Trump ties have been discussed on Pacifica, KPFK, but very briefly. JDPriestly May 2016 #12
McAuliffe and the Clintons go way back gratuitous May 2016 #17
Well, Terry was... ReRe May 2016 #22
So much for the VP slot, eh Terry? Ford_Prefect May 2016 #11
Having both the President and VP madville May 2016 #28
On local radio McAuliffe stated that Mr. Wang was vetted and had a *green card* Raine1967 May 2016 #13
I think he's been a good ohheckyeah May 2016 #25
my canadian aunt had a green card but she never grifted and I personally want ethical d's in places. roguevalley May 2016 #34
What you said makes no sense. No sense at all. Raine1967 May 2016 #38
It's the always reliable "false equivalency" so no matter how bad Republicans are, the voters can ToxMarz May 2016 #14
ReTHUGs want Virginia real bad malaise May 2016 #15
ReTHUGS go after any and all successful Democrats. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #27
Except this is a dem administration. And Lynch, certainly, is no republican cali May 2016 #35
Really. Perhaps they should investigate the foreign donations to the Clinton Foundation... KauaiK May 2016 #18
Onion bait fishing off the USS Borowitz? Festivito May 2016 #19

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
1. the CNN reporter who broke this story keeps alluding to other matters.
Tue May 24, 2016, 04:00 PM
May 2016

He says something like "we don't know the extent of this investigation".

I think there's a lot he knows that he's not telling yet.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
32. I heard he was a director on the board of the Clinton slush fund. I imagine when they're
Tue May 24, 2016, 08:37 PM
May 2016

sorting through that fiasco he has come up. It could be that he's going to be folded into that. God, what a load of bullocks.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
37. this is how it works
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:08 PM
May 2016

Haven't we all seen enough crime shows on TV to know that grabbing an associate to squeeze is very productive? And they apparently surprised him, too!

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
23. It's a starting point but
Tue May 24, 2016, 06:48 PM
May 2016

I protested in Richmond during the vagina probing with the last guy. It's a touchy subject pardon the obvious, if any tries to compare spongebob vagina probe to McAuliffe.

 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
29. That's the problem with some democrats; By not being as bad as their predecessors, they get our vote
Tue May 24, 2016, 07:02 PM
May 2016

We deserve better. I always thought McAuliffe was a weak and crooked lackey, but he came in at just the right time when the guy before him was a total Jeebus warrior vagina prober.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
31. Hard to vote for the better dem that isn't running
Tue May 24, 2016, 08:13 PM
May 2016

I voted for the dem, a far better choice than the cooch. If a better dem was running I would have voted for him/her. Or I could have just not voted.

 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
36. I hear ya'
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:05 PM
May 2016

Martha Coakely ran against Charlie Baker here in MA in 2014. You may remember her as the only candidate ever to lose to Scott Brown for the US Senate. Well, she ended our wonderful era of Deval Patrick here by losing to Charlie Baker. She was the "party choice" flaws and all, and that's why we lost.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
20. I can tell you aren't a Virginian...
Tue May 24, 2016, 06:02 PM
May 2016

Do some reading on our last governor and get back to us... And then you can question me.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
39. I'm well aware of the cooch
Tue May 24, 2016, 11:45 PM
May 2016

and also aware of the current governor's rep and ties (what a surprise! your favorite candidate!). As for questioning you, just take that as a given.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
24. Have you met ken Kookienelli?
Tue May 24, 2016, 06:56 PM
May 2016

It was not lesser of 2 evils, it was typical insider dem politician vs ban the gay, anti abortion fundie loon gun toting teabagger. And his side kick for Lt governor rev ewwww. It was not a hard choice. McAuliffe got quite a few gop female votes it was such a terrible alternative.

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gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
8. From my reading . . .
Tue May 24, 2016, 04:50 PM
May 2016

It appears that various lengths of stovepipe are involved, some labeled "the Chinese," others labeled "dark rumors" and "serious if true." Naturally, this all goes directly to the Clinton campaign, and whatever bad conclusions can be drawn must be immediately welded forever to the Clinton campaign.

Meanwhile, it's just too much of a stretch to connect Donald Trump's past public dealings with (for example) organized crime and wonder if that might have an effect on any prospective Trump administration.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
12. The Trump ties have been discussed on Pacifica, KPFK, but very briefly.
Tue May 24, 2016, 05:20 PM
May 2016

I'm sure more on them will emerge if Trump really is the Republican candidate.

How close is McAuliffe to Clinton?

I have some vague idea that they are friends, but I don't know where I got it.

Any information?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
17. McAuliffe and the Clintons go way back
Tue May 24, 2016, 05:54 PM
May 2016

He had a prominent position during Bill's re-election campaign in 1996 (national chairman?), and he was also a prominent supporter during Hillary's 2008 campaign. Folks from Virginia can probably supply some more information.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
22. Well, Terry was...
Tue May 24, 2016, 06:36 PM
May 2016

... the DNC Chair for 4-5 yrs, and has been tied up with the Clinton's since before they moved into the WH. Here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_McAuliffe

Yip, I think we could call them friends.

madville

(7,410 posts)
28. Having both the President and VP
Tue May 24, 2016, 07:01 PM
May 2016

candidates on the same ticket under FBI investigation at the same time may be a bit much I would think.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
13. On local radio McAuliffe stated that Mr. Wang was vetted and had a *green card*
Tue May 24, 2016, 05:20 PM
May 2016

So he is on record stating this, I just heard him saying myself.

http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/foreign.shtml#Individuals_Green_Card

Individuals: The "Green Card" Exception
An immigrant may make a contribution if he or she has a "green card" indicating his or her lawful admittance for permanent residence in the United States.


Quite honestly, the GOP tried to pull this with McAuliffe when he was running for governor.

The Virginia GOP is pissed at him and I smell operatives here.

The what they do know section of the article is an awful lot of hypothesis.

I am serious when I say this, it is really sad that we are so quick to jump on Dems, And in Virginia's case, we should be happy to have a (D) as a Governor.




roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
34. my canadian aunt had a green card but she never grifted and I personally want ethical d's in places.
Tue May 24, 2016, 08:40 PM
May 2016

I won't settle for less.

ToxMarz

(2,166 posts)
14. It's the always reliable "false equivalency" so no matter how bad Republicans are, the voters can
Tue May 24, 2016, 05:28 PM
May 2016

comfortably vote for them because the Democrats are just as bad. The previous Rethuglican Governor was taken down by illegal campaign finance, so the the Democratic Governor must at the very least be tainted with the appearance of illegal campaign financial activity. Even if it is never proven, it is never disproven.

malaise

(268,980 posts)
15. ReTHUGs want Virginia real bad
Tue May 24, 2016, 05:30 PM
May 2016

and Dems insist on promoting some seriously compromised folks. Ah well - the entire system stinks

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