Powerful new ad: Donald Trump rooted for the real estate crash

[Skinner]

(I searched but I couldn't find this posted anywhere else on DU.)

[riversedge]

1. Thanks for posting it. Yes, it is very good. Hits the Donald where it hurts. Saw it

last evening on some talk show.

[hlthe2b]

2. Yes... but are his supporters in so much denial that they will excuse even this?

You know that old ridiculous belief among REPUBs that THEY TOO can be Donald Trump, so it doesn't matter what happens to anyone else.

I used to just be unbelievably embarrassed by the ignorance. Now, I am unbelievably scared.

[trotsky]

3. You bet they'll excuse it.

Drumpf already dumb-ified it for them last night at his rally. "Well of course I'm going to buy when things are cheap, I'm a successful businessman!"

The crowd lapped it up as usual. Honestly he could tell them they're all a bunch of uneducated fucksticks and they'd cheer.

[Moostache]

11. Agreed, his supporters do not care about this.

This is actually a bad idea to campaign against Trump with Trump-style rhetoric and imagery.

First of all, it is vital for Democrats to recognize what kind of person is attracted to Trump and to spend their time NOT talking to or trying to reason with those people. Instead, get ALL of the people that would support her fired up and to the polls.

Turn out.
Turn out.
Turn out.

That is the ONLY way the Democratic nominee wins. BErnie supporters are far more excited to vote FOR him than for the party. Hillary loses by 3-5% if she can't convince enough of those people to turn out for her.

If they want to practice for this, start trying to convince a Young Earth Creationist of the validity of the science behind the theory of Evolution. The response you get will be IDENTICAL to the response you'll get from Trump supporters by trying to PROVE ANYTHING to them. They are emotionally invested in preventing a woman presidency, but even more so preventing a Hillary presidency. Emotionally motivated voters are not going to be swayed by emotional pleas or facts or proving anything to them. The root cause is that they hate her. Telling them how wrong they are won't change it...

[C Moon]

13. Anything that will help others from not going to the "dark side" is great.

[brush]

29. There are not enough of his angry, white supporters to win

We saw that in 2012 with Romney when he won a large majority of white voters.

He has to draw other voters and ads like this stop them from voting for him.

And there is so much other material out there on Trump — him calling Latinos rapists and criminals should make a very effective ad. All of his sexist comments on women also will work. Him encouraging violence at his rallies could be another, and on and on and on.

It's just getting started.

[Surya Gayatri]

4. So many anti-Hillary screeds to write, so little time.

This hard-hitting video doesn't fit the prevailing DU majority narrative that "SHE'S LOSING TO TRUMP...OMG! OMG! OMG!"

Too many nominal DUers have no interest whatsoever in demonstrating that HRC has a top-notch team who will hand Trump his ass.

This won't move Trump's brainwashed supporters at all, but it will set the independent swing voters to thinking.

[TwilightZone]

5. Yep, undecideds and fence-sitters are the target audience.

Trump's floor is his floor regardless of what he says or does or what the opposition says. That's pretty clear by now.

"Too many nominal DUers have no interest whatsoever in demonstrating that HRC has a top-notch team who will hand Trump his ass."

I think many of them are in denial that that same top-notch team is helping her win the primary against their guy. "I refuse to believe this is happening" translates into "I don't see how she can beat Trump".

[Surya Gayatri]

6. Very salient point about Berners downplaying the excellence of her team--

the same one that has out-strategized and out- organized him across the board.

[oberliner]

9. What's with the wrestling video?

Just curious.

[zalinda]

32. Throwing chairs. They think it's cute about the Nevada lies. eom

[lark]

7. Good one!

Pull back the curtain and show who's really behind all this. It won't be pretty, but hopefully he can be stopped.

[oberliner]

8. Do you think this will be effective?

I fear it will play into the idea that Trump is a "savvy businessman" who will "make great deals for America".

That seems to be how he is able to spin this kind of thing generally.

[Skinner]

10. This is Bain Capital all over again.

He's a "savvy businessman" who doesn't give a crap about people and would gladly tank the economy to line his own pockets.

[RogueTrooper]

24. A fair proportion of his supporters would have been affected by that real estate crash

It won't stop them but may put them on the back foot.

It does help define the narrative about Trump: The only time he shows competence at business (rather than the business of show) is when he is bottom feeding off the misery of others.

[Angel Martin]

26. another own goal by team Hillary.

Anything that shifts the focus back to those responsible for the housing/financial crash will remind voters that those responsible are all Wall Street contributors to Clinton's campaign !

I would leave this one.

[GreatGazoo]

28. I lean that way but think this ad is neutral

Typically in the early part of a GE you want to turn your opponent's strengths into weaknesses. This ad is RIGHT to focus on myth busting the 'Trump is genius businessman' nonsense but in talking about the bubble and him saying that there is an opportunity to buy when real estate bubbles crash, it doesn't get the myth busted.

Better would have been:

Infographic rolling timeline of Trump's draft dodging, bankruptcies, shady deals, mob connections, failed marriages, casinos gone broke, etc. Super over clips of people applying that orange make up to Trump or anything that visually says this guy is a polished turd, as fake as his hair.

Get a lot of hits that will resonate with his supporters into the 30 seconds. Bust the myth, paint him as a phony and approve this message. Done.

[brush]

30. All of that is still coming. There's plenty of material on Trump

It'll be rolled out over time.

This one is just the beginning.

[NoMoreRepugs]

12. solid ad - using his own words to help explain who he is

[C Moon]

14. Trump defines the phrase "skeletons in the closet."

It amazes me how he is still politically surviving.
Hate conquers all, I guess.

[marble falls]

15. Good stuff! I support Bernie, but I support this ad and when and if the time comes: I whole...

heartedly will support Hilary Clinton.

[Stuart G]

16. You are not alone...this is a great ad...in my opinion

I will support Hillary Clinton in November

[DesertRat]

17. k&r!

[herding cats]

18. I like that it uses him actually saying he wanted it to happen.

Great ad!

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

19. Sure but, WAAAAALL!!!!...... I think I've made my case very convincingly and eloquently. nt

[FairWinds]

20. This ad will make zero impact . .

in middle America.

It's like denouncing an alligator for having big teeth.

[Vote2016]

21. This message from the folks who brought us Whitewater (not a crime, but still a real estate scam)?

We need a better messenger.

Trump won't release taxes - Hillary's hording of transcripts compromises the message.

Trump involved in real estate scam - Hillary's Whitewater escapade blunts the message.

Trump overplays his hand on response to terrorism - Hillary's "we came, we saw, he died" laugh track drowns the message.

Etc., etc., etc. It is a pattern

[Skittles]

22. got any more repuke memes?

[Vote2016]

23. I'm just saying the Clintons ought not throw stones at glass house real estate scams

[muriel_volestrangler]

34. Yeah, you're repeating the Republican meme

You lie, and promote Trump, when you say the Clintons had a 'scam'. Shit like that won't be allowed for much longer here.

[Vote2016]

37. It is not a "Republican meme." The NYT broke the story (not Rush or Drudge), Susan McDougal went to

jail (but don't worry, Bill pardoned her), 14 others were also convicted, etc. You must remember this - it was in all the newspapers.

I'm not saying that the Clintons committed crimes in connection with Whitewater (they didn't), but they were neck deep in a genuine real estate scam that resulted in 15 people getting convicted.

This is historical fact. Calling it a "Republican meme" dilutes that argument when justly applied to real witch-hunts like the Vince Foster nonsense. Whitewater actually happened. It was documented in many courts of law.

[muriel_volestrangler]

38. Yes, saying Whitewater was Hillary's scam (you claimed she 'brought it' to the world) is Republican

and a lie. Stop it. Delete your posts. This is a Democratic website, and there's no place for right wing bullshit here.

[Scientific]

25. Good ad

Very powerful.

[kimbutgar]

31. Too bad it will no effect on his supporters

They are such brain washed zombies they will say the commercial is a lie.

[muriel_volestrangler]

33. Donald Trump: Parasite on America (nt)

[ChoppinBroccoli]

35. Take It Another Step Further

Yes, Drumpf DID root for the housing crash to happen so he could cash in on it, and that's despicable, but they need to then take it to the next step. The next step is pointing out that in that very same interview, Drumpf, in his infinite wisdom, predicted that the housing market would NOT crash. So you can see, he's really got his finger on the pulse of American economic issues.

[Fozzledick]

36. Trump has exposed the true economic policy of the Republican party.

Deliberately crash the economy so that they can loot the wreckage.

[gregcrawford]

39. Trump supporters...

... are all drooling idiots who think the jury's still out on gravity being a thing, or they're self-serving sociopaths just like him.

Or both. Christ, this is gonna get ugly.

[Quantess]

40. No surprise at all. A few fat cats cashed in on the real estate bubble and crash.

Some people got rich off other people's misery. Rinse, lather, repeat.

[emulatorloo]

41. Thank you so much for posting. Terrific ad.

[In_The_Wind]

42. Kickety kick

[napkinz]

43. kick

[eleny]

44. He looks like he could be a character in The Shining

Creepy smile.

[AgadorSparticus]

45. This needs to be repeated....many times. Nt