Let’s Call Establishment Democrats What They Really Are: REPUBLICANS - Ring of Fire

[Feeling the Bern]

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The Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia is going to be sponsored by the worst of the worst. Healthcare lobbyists, proponents of fracking, and even Comcast will be hosting the event, as DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz has decided to lift the convention’s ban on lobbyists. America’s Lawyer™ Mike Papantonio talks about the fall of the Democratic Party with Thom Hartmann.

Time to throw Pap under the bus, Hillary supporters

Let's see. . .what good liberals have been thrown under the bus this primary season by good Democrats that put party over principle?

Susan Sarandon.
Mike Malloy
Cenk Uyger
Rosario Dawson
Seth Macfaralane
Sarah Silverman
Thom Hartman
Most Bernie Sanders supporters (if not all)

I guess it's Mike Papantonio's time to get thrown under the bus for saying that Democrats are now Republican Lite.

[Renew Deal]

1. Good to know what Putin thinks

[Jeffersons Ghost]

5. Has Putin finally ordered an invasion of the South China Sea?

I am more curious about what Xi thinks. While communications systems, other than Comcast - like AT&T - which also promoted net neutrality, are backing Republicans they, allow China to run roughshod over their corporations, the internet and us consumers, simply to obtain slave labor in Beijing. That ancient city was once a world wonder. Now, it is poisoned with unchecked pollution, which destroys architectural art and people who live or work there. That smog affects the entire planet, eventually. Meanwhile, saber rattling with Beijing is still resonating in Washington DC.

[rhett o rick]

33. Corporatist Democrats run the Party and they are owned by the Rich.

Sadly some seem to enjoy the comfort of wallowing in the mire with the Wealthy. I call them Loyalists.

[ish of the hammer]

37. This is EXACTLY what a repub would say, thanks for the example.

a such a stooooopid comment. Exactly what a repub would say

[Trust Buster]

2. No one is stopping those that think the Democratic Party is Republican from starting their own

party. Whining incessantly won't change their situation.

[Feeling the Bern]

4. Yes. . .kick out the progressives. Let's be Center Right. So glad I am now an independent

and free to vote principles over party.

But thanks for the Reagansque attitude of "falling in line."

[Renew Deal]

8. You just argued against yourself.

"Yes. . .kick out the progressives. Let's be Center Right."

"So glad I am now an independent"

[Feeling the Bern]

9. Nope. . .I left the Democratic Party after I voted in the Arizona primary

I refuse to allow myself to be associated with conservative policies like HRC's love of fracking, DWS's love of Citizens United and the corruption of the DNC.

So, Let's all be center right since that's what Democrats are now. So happy I'm not one and can vote principles over party.

[Renew Deal]

10. You left voluntarily

You wouldn't have done that if you had any interest in the direction of the party. You're letting the party be "center-right" in your opinion.

[Feeling the Bern]

14. The party of FDR left me years ago.

I left the Party and am very happy I did.

Now I don't have to justify people like DWS, Zell Miller, Joe Lieberman, Ben Nelson, Bill Nelson or people who think Kissinger was a good man.

[PoliticalMalcontent]

39. Thoughts on the state of the party.

When the party leadership stops representing the views of those that vote them into office it is understandable those people may change their official registration. People are not required to maintain commitment to politicians if those politicians keep dicking them over, you know?

People unregistering from the party would hopefully make party leadership aware that it needs to recalibrate a bit.

People registered as Democrat specifically for Sanders. The DNC spat on that potential turnout out of some misguided sense of loyalty developed by Clinton over some 20+ years.

Understandably, once Clinton is elected she will do her best to reward those loyal to her. That quid pro quo (loyalty in exchange for political clout down the line) is the enemy of progress and practically begs to maintain the status quo. Nobody rock the boat, please!

Long post short, leaving the party doesn't mean someone doesn't care about the party. Some people feel it's the only recourse they have.

[redstateblues]

32. Like Bernie, you just used the Democratic Party. You were never a Democrat

And you were never going to vote Democratic. BTW- Hillary will name a SCOTUS judge that will throw out CU

[Trust Buster]

17. Hilarious, isn't it ?

[Jeffersons Ghost]

11. LOL! aren't you supposed to put a sarcasm icon on your reply?

:kick: what happened to our kicking mule gif?

[Trust Buster]

16. I never posted a word about falling in line. You projected that. I said, to those that hate the

Democratic Party so much, you have two choices. Whine or start your own party. It's that simple.

[Feeling the Bern]

18. No. . .I have a third choice. I leave. And I exercised my choice with my feet.

This coming from someone whose avatar is a Republican.

[Trust Buster]

19. Then we are in agreement. You don't like the Party so you left. That exactly what I suggested.

You're not making a lot of sense here.

[Feeling the Bern]

20. When the party comes back to the party of FDR, I'll re-register because then they will represent my

values. But if center-right is your value system, why not just go to the Republicans and cut the pretense?

[Trust Buster]

23. Picture our country's history as a road. We have succeeded by staying in the middle of the road

and not by jumping the curbs on the left and right side of the road. Social media has made this a more polarized country. The middle will hold down the fort until this fever breaks.

[highprincipleswork]

30. Right. The country founded by a revolution.

[KPN]

25. Well that sounds like a super fine idea.

Egg 'em into leaving the party if they don't like it. Too many to deal with within the Party, so push 'em out. That'll do a lot for the "Party". Nevermind that almost half the members feel that way and 12% or so (of voters) already left the Party in the past 15 years or so.

That'll do wonders for you Buster.

[Trust Buster]

29. I'm not "egging" anyone to do anything. I'm merely suggesting that those that hate the Democratic

Party so viscerally should consider an alternative. Perpetual whining won't solve anything. That's just common sense.

[highprincipleswork]

31. Not to those who won't hear.

[rhett o rick]

34. No we are going to kick the corporatists out of the People's Party. Go start your own

Republicon Lite Party.

[riversedge]

3. Those two will come around and vote for Hillary come Nov.

[onecaliberal]

6. Yup, I've been saying that for a while

[Hekate]

7. Meh. At this point I feel the bern is a hot mess.

JURY: the title of the OP is "Let’s Call Establishment Democrats What They Really Are: REPUBLICANS - Ring of Fire". Really? This is DU. So my opinion is in response to that slander.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

12. Those damn Trump-trolls will turn posts and people they hate over to a DU jury fast!

[SCantiGOP]

13. That OP is

one of the most disgusting things I've ever read here.

Glad we won't be seeing this shit in 10 more days.

[womanofthehills]

15. It's not disgusting - you don't like the truth

[retrowire]

40. Buddy.

Are you happy about DWS lifting the ban on lobbyists?

If so... How the fuck is that something to support in the Democratic Party?

[Quixote1818]

21. This deserves 1,000 recomendations. Infuriating! nt

[Feeling the Bern]

22. Agreed, but all I'm getting if you read this post, is arguments from statists and

corportists that think Center Right is better than being the party of FDR.

One of the many reasons I left the Democrats.

[Quixote1818]

24. This is what happens when Time Warner controls the message

A lot of current democrats pay a lot of attention to social issues which the democratic party is actually pretty good on but Wall Street doesn't give a fuck about gay marriage, minority issues and women's rights so they don't fund those battles. So there is an illusion that the current democratic party is independent of the powerful but when it comes to keeping the money flowing from the poor and middle class up to the 1%, the Democratic Party is just as much of an enabler as the Republican Party and totally bought off. How anyone can't understand this just fucking blows my mind. We have NO party looking out for labor and the middle class! ZERO! And those of us who want to wean ourselves off of Wall Street's nipple and put the party back to where it USE to be are called some kind of radical, grass roots movement. It just boggles my mind and really makes me feel hopeless that the party of FDR is nothing more than a moderate Republican Party about where Eisenhower was and the Republicans are off the charts, bat shit crazy!

[Hekate]

26. How many more days must you suffer in durance vile at DU before you break your chains...

....and fly free? All the best as you find your way in the wide world outside this prison.

[Quixote1818]

45. Did you even watch the video? So your a proponent of Fracking and lobbyists hosting the convention

for the first time ever? This all sounds just peachy to you?

[ConservativeDemocrat]

27. Let's call those who think Democrats are Republicans are identical, what they really are...

Communists.

Just whiny, frustrated, authoritarian left wing communists.

Just "bread lines are a sign of economic health" communists.

Just communist "censorship of the press is great" communists.

Just "lets hang flags of dictatorships" communists.

The real question is, why are communists posting on the Democratic Underground? There are communist websites out there, where they can wallow in their failed ideology.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

[Feeling the Bern]

44. Communists. . .hmmm. Okay, from the wikipedia page of Communist Party USA

Their political ideology:

Sounds like the party of FDR

There is nothing in there any Democrat should or would disagree with.

But you keep fighting your cold war "Conservadem."

[redstateblues]

28. Is that on Russia Today? Cool- Donald and Putin are pals

Im sure the minders approve everything. Is that really a network?

[johnp3907]

35. Let's call Bernie what he really is:

LOSER!

[retrowire]

38. This thread had nothing to do with Bernie.

What an odd and telling response.

Hmmm... Well, I suppose the subject of the OP being the corruption of the Democratic Party is unimportant to you.

Enjoy your lobbyists. XD

[Maedhros]

41. Ladies and gentlemen, behold an example of the towering intellects behind Hillary Clinton.

Truly, I stand in awe.

/ignore list.

[retrowire]

36. KnR. nt

[Thinkingabout]

42. I have been a Democrat all of my life, others can not say this, some who tries to redefine

Democrats for something we are not are the DINO's. It is easy to become a Democrat, we welcome others, not everyone can be a Democrat. Hey, maybe being a DINO is as close as they will be.

[jalan48]

43. I guess the oligarch's are trying to decide who can best institute the New World Order.

Do we want it touchy feely or rammed down our throats. That's our choice.

[tammywammy]

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