Pakistani Islamic council: Men are permitted to beat their wives "lightly"

[davidn3600]

The leader of a Pakistani Islamic council has proposed a bill that allows husbands to "lightly beat" their wives as a form of discipline.
In the 75-page proposal, Mohammad Khan Sheerani suggests a light beating is acceptable should the need arise to punish a woman. The proposal bans forceful beating, saying only a small stick is necessary to instill fear.

The Council of Islamic Ideology is a powerful constitutional body that advises the Pakistani legislature whether laws are in line with the teachings of Islam.

Its proposed bill is seen as a response to the rejected Punjab Women Protection bill for abused women. The council shunned it as "un-Islamic" and wrote its own bill, which includes the recommendation for the light beating.

"A husband should be allowed to lightly beat his wife if she defies his commands and refuses to dress up as per his desires; turns down demand of intercourse without any religious excuse or does not take bath after intercourse or menstrual periods," Pakistan's Express-Tribune newspaper cited the proposal as saying.

The proposal also calls for a beating if a woman does not wear a hijab, if she interacts with strangers, speaks too loudly or gives others cash without her husband's permission, according to the newspaper.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/28/asia/pakistan-women-light-beating/

[Rex]

1. Barbarism.

Hitting is never okay. Most children learn this lesson.

[Delver Rootnose]

6. This doesn't sound too....

...out of line with Christian teachings. So barbarism is an abt description.

[cali]

8. Oh for fuck's sake. False equivalency.

[Delver Rootnose]

10. Oh really??

You haven't read your Old Testament or know much about current and past practices of fundamentalist Christianity or even Judaism. Not a thing false about it. You damn this, you should also damn all the christianists who say the same. Hell even the catholic church thinks women are less and should take a subordinate role in everything.

[EL34x4]

14. Then Pakistani women can be comforted

knowing that Christian women around the world understand their suffering.

[Jnclr89]

2. "lightly"

The quoted words should be "Pakistani Islamic council: Men are permitted to beat their wives"

This is like PC vs PC. Am I wrong here?

[applegrove]

3. I recommend people watch Fareed Zakaria's piece on Islam on cnn.

It gives clear parameters on Islam and is calĺed "Why They Hate Us". Doesn't go into domestic abuse per se. But it did make me feel hopeful that if we can shut up the Donald Trump's of the world and hold groups like the Saudis more accountable we will get to a much better place. Some day. That being said I agree with Rex that only immature people would think abuse is ever justified.

[Democat]

4. Obviously a result of American foreign policy

If it wasn't for Bush and Clinton, women would have equal rights in the Middle East.

[Journeyman]

5. "I think about my education sometimes . . .

"I went to the University of Chicago for a while after the Second World War. I was a student in the Department of Anthropology. At that time, they were teaching that there was absolutely no difference between anybody. They may be teaching that still.

Another thing they taught was that nobody was ridiculous or bad or disgusting. Shortly before my father died, he said to me, "You know—you never wrote a story with a villain in it."

I told him that was one of the things I learned in college after the war."

[center]~ Kurt Vonnegut, Slaughterhouse-Five

[TomVilmer]

7. In all other countries, they just do it without permission...

Domestic violence remains a serious epidemic affecting many families in the American society. An estimated 1.3 million women are physically abused by their husbands, former spouses, or live-in partners each year. Abuse from domestic violence results in more than 450,000 visits to the emergency room each year. Since 1976, nearly one-third of all female homicide victims have been killed by their intimate partners. In Los Angeles County, a woman “dies at the hands of her husband or boyfriend” every five days.
Responding to domestic abuse calls takes up one-third of all police time and is the most frequent type of call to law enforcers. Absenteeism of battered women and decreases in their work productivity cause employers to lose between three to thirteen billion dollars annually. An estimated fifty percent of all homeless women and children seeking shelter on the streets are the products of domestic violence.
Domestic abuse also causes psychosocial problems for women and children. Studies find that domestic violence often manifests itself in a tendency for an individual to become either a victim or a batterer. For instance, women experiencing abuse are 150 times more likely to abuse their children, and sons who witness domestic violence are ten times more likely to become abusers themselves. Furthermore, children who witness domestic violence often fall prey to social incompetency and emotional problems.

Southern California Interdisciplinary Law Journal

[Democat]

11. Look at all of the replies minimizing this or blaming Christians

This is a problem on DU.

[Ex Lurker]

12. Must not criticize the Third World

This is one of the commandments of DU.

[TomVilmer]

13. When I was a kid...

... my parents taught me it was wise to clean our own garden, before shouting to the neighbors about theirs.

[TomVilmer]

9. Public school students in Mississippi can legally get beaten

A new study finds that seven Southern states account for 80 percent of in-school corporal punishment in the U.S.: Mississippi, Texas, Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Tennessee and Oklahoma. Corporal punishment at school is illegal in 31 states. Of the 19 that technically allow it, many do not appear to practice it at all, according to Startz' numbers.

But some states are use the practice relatively often. In Mississippi there were more than six instances of corporal punishment -- defined as "paddling, spanking, or other forms of physical punishment imposed on a student" -- for every 100 public school students during the 2011-2012 school year. In other words, one out of every 17 public school students in Mississippi can expect to get beaten by a school administrator during a typical school year.

washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/01/14/the-states-where-teachers-still-beat-kids/

[dilby]

15. Looks like they are catching up with the times soon they will be like the South

Where they still have laws on the book that make it legal to beat your wife.