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kpete

(71,954 posts)
Sun May 29, 2016, 05:29 PM May 2016

WSJ editor: Trump needs to be destroyed in the November election to teach GOP voters a lesson

Appearing on CNN, an opinion page editor from the Wall Street Journal left no doubt how he feels about presumptive GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump, saying not only will he not vote for him, but that Trump needs to be crushed in the November election as a lesson to Republicans.

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“I most certainly will not vote for Donald Trump,” Stephens began tersely. “I will vote for the least left-wing opponent to Donald Trump and I want to make a vote that makes sure he is the biggest loser in presidential history since, I don’t know, Alf Landon.”

Then Stephens went off:

“It’s important that Donald Trump, or what he represents, this kind of quote ‘ethnic conservatism or populism,’ be so decisively rebuked that the Republican Party and the Republican voters will forever learn their lesson that they cannot nominate a man so manifestly unqualified to be president in any way, shape or form.”




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WSJ editor: Trump needs to be destroyed in the November election to teach GOP voters a lesson (Original Post) kpete May 2016 OP
There is no such thing as "forever learn their lesson" Maeve May 2016 #1
right? Cosmocat May 2016 #18
Wow-I agree with the WSJ Gothmog May 2016 #2
Me too Liberal_in_LA May 2016 #10
This opinion is not approved MFM008 May 2016 #3
Oh, yes -- it is. He has a finger in the air and knows which way the wind is blowing. MADem May 2016 #4
Murdoch is supporting the New Democrats, these days. Just like he supported New Labour. w4rma May 2016 #6
Murdoch crosses back and forth as it advantages him. MADem May 2016 #12
Exactly. And this is why progressives are wary of Clinton. (nt) w4rma May 2016 #14
Why--because he hosted a lousy fundraising breakfast--not even a dinner-- MADem May 2016 #16
You were sounding reasonable, a short time, MADem. Then you went 'Hillary can do no wrong', again.nt w4rma May 2016 #22
I find it really odd that the default objection to any opinion I MADem May 2016 #23
I'm surprised WSJ published that. Wow! lindysalsagal May 2016 #5
They won't learn dick. Volaris May 2016 #7
The GOP is serving ultraconservative billionaires Hortensis May 2016 #17
I have contended through out the primary Cosmocat May 2016 #19
No matter what happens, GOP voters will take away the same "Lesson" ThoughtCriminal May 2016 #8
B I N G O Cosmocat May 2016 #20
Maybe not. That was the pattern of the past, yes. Hortensis May 2016 #21
r #18 & K for, to Zeus's ear!1 UTUSN May 2016 #9
"Republican voters will forever learn their lesson that they cannot nominate a man so manifestly Fozzledick May 2016 #11
Oh oh. Basic common sense & a dash of decency. DANGER Scientific May 2016 #13
These Conservative Elites are quite pissy RogueTrooper May 2016 #15

Maeve

(42,269 posts)
1. There is no such thing as "forever learn their lesson"
Sun May 29, 2016, 05:33 PM
May 2016

Humanity seldom remembers 20 years on what stupidity it did last time...and in 20 years, many of Drumpf's supporters will be dead.
Not that I'd try to stop an enemy of the Great Yam....

Cosmocat

(14,557 posts)
18. right?
Mon May 30, 2016, 08:54 AM
May 2016

like GWB wasn't enough of a lesson?

The virulent stupidity that manifests itself within the "conservative" element of this country will remain in place, as it has for over a century now ...

MADem

(135,425 posts)
4. Oh, yes -- it is. He has a finger in the air and knows which way the wind is blowing.
Sun May 29, 2016, 05:56 PM
May 2016

Murdoch is a complete asshole, but he's never been an ideologue.

He touts the GOP in America because he "owns the franchise" in terms of television media here. Look at Fox--the news arm is "right wing" and the entertainment arm runs the subversive "Family Guy" and "American Dad."

He was quite the supporter of the LABOUR PARTY over in UK when it suited him.

He's not loyal to anything save his wallet.

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
6. Murdoch is supporting the New Democrats, these days. Just like he supported New Labour.
Sun May 29, 2016, 08:04 PM
May 2016

Remember what happened to New Labour?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
12. Murdoch crosses back and forth as it advantages him.
Mon May 30, 2016, 04:20 AM
May 2016

He's behind Cameron in UK, these days.

He's got plenty of GOP buddies on the Hill and his Fox News franchise still regards us as The Devil. He won't be even halfway civil to us unless and until we have a super majority in one chamber and a majority in both.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
16. Why--because he hosted a lousy fundraising breakfast--not even a dinner--
Mon May 30, 2016, 08:37 AM
May 2016

for her when she was a Senator?

They're both from NY. APIL.

She's not the candidate out there trolling for GOP voters.

smh.

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
22. You were sounding reasonable, a short time, MADem. Then you went 'Hillary can do no wrong', again.nt
Mon May 30, 2016, 05:05 PM
May 2016

MADem

(135,425 posts)
23. I find it really odd that the default objection to any opinion I
Mon May 30, 2016, 06:53 PM
May 2016

express is "You" do X, "you" say Y, "YOU" aren't as good as you used to be because you don't agree with me, etc.

I find it odd that so many people getting pissed at me can't respond to the substance of my views, but have to resort to name calling and shade throwing directed at me, personally.

It suggests a failure of discourse on YOUR part.

And that's pretty much all I have to say about YOU.





w4rma
22. You were sounding reasonable, a short time, MADem. Then you went 'Hillary can do no wrong', again.nt


Talk issues, not other DUers. If you can....

lindysalsagal

(20,557 posts)
5. I'm surprised WSJ published that. Wow!
Sun May 29, 2016, 07:50 PM
May 2016

I think that shows that the fRumpser's ascendancy isn't at all secure.

Great.

Volaris

(10,266 posts)
7. They won't learn dick.
Sun May 29, 2016, 08:50 PM
May 2016

The voter base over there is about to find out exactly how much the party establishment doesn't give a fuck about them, and the establishment is going to get a very, very difficult lesson as to the limits of the Southern Strategy and what happens when you intentionally pander to idiot backwoods bigots.

Good.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. The GOP is serving ultraconservative billionaires
Mon May 30, 2016, 08:54 AM
May 2016

and USING the ignorance of idiots urban, suburban, and rural to manipulate them for the wealthy.

Agree they won't learn dick. However, they will be furious enough at the GOP that it could topple the GOP leadership, and with them at least temporarily disable the ultraconservative wealthy's control of GOP power.

Btw, I've read that the Koch-lead alliance, with its hundreds of billionaires and megamillionaires, rivals the GOP in power these days. Taking down the GOP will hurt them, but they'll be extremely busy looking for ways to turn chaos to their benefit.

Cosmocat

(14,557 posts)
19. I have contended through out the primary
Mon May 30, 2016, 08:59 AM
May 2016

that the worst thing the republican party could do from a survival perspective was take the nomination from Trump at the covention.

Maybe he loses in the general, maybe he loses big. He might win.

But, it is one cycle thing if he loses, and those pods with the special mix of major stupid and major anger that wins them a LOT of elections will have been indulged and the establishment would get to say they got their candidate and keep them in the fold.

If they took the nomination, they would lose those pods for a lot longer.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,046 posts)
8. No matter what happens, GOP voters will take away the same "Lesson"
Sun May 29, 2016, 08:53 PM
May 2016

Win, win big, lose, lose big, Republicans always react the same way:

Move farther to the right. Always, NO exceptions. It is how they read success and failure.

Win, no matter how small and how victory was obtained and they see it mandate to be more conservative. Lose, and they conclude that the defeat was caused by no being a "real" conservative.

Don't believe there is any more room to the right? We are just a few more election cycles from conservatives thinking that the Spanish Inquisition failed when it got too soft.

Cosmocat

(14,557 posts)
20. B I N G O
Mon May 30, 2016, 09:00 AM
May 2016

SPOT on ...

Anyone who thinks other wise hasn't been paying attention the last quarter century.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. Maybe not. That was the pattern of the past, yes.
Mon May 30, 2016, 09:03 AM
May 2016

However, just look at Trump's supporters. Many were tea-partiers not long ago. Yet following Trump, they really don't care about deregulation and the evils of "big government." At least 75% of conservatives feel the wealthy don't pay enough in taxes. They like Social Security. The ultraconservative puppeteers have currently lost control of the right's ideological direction.

And let's face it, for every action there is reaction. Take a look at this history of the ideology of Congress. Just how batshit-crazy-conservative can that blue Republican Congress line go? The voting patterns of the people the ultrawealthy have been manipulating into Congress have moved farther and farther away from the traditional conservatism people grew up with for close to 30 years now.

Fozzledick

(3,860 posts)
11. "Republican voters will forever learn their lesson that they cannot nominate a man so manifestly
Mon May 30, 2016, 12:39 AM
May 2016

unqualified to be president in any way, shape or form.”

Why? They didn't learn from Ronald Reagan or George Bush.

Scientific

(314 posts)
13. Oh oh. Basic common sense & a dash of decency. DANGER
Mon May 30, 2016, 04:53 AM
May 2016

WARNING. The Republicans will want to tar & feather this editorialist,
or at the very least to tape his mouth shut before he utters another syllable of truth.

RogueTrooper

(4,665 posts)
15. These Conservative Elites are quite pissy
Mon May 30, 2016, 05:41 AM
May 2016

Nothing like their supporters have deciding to go for a candidate who does not bother with the dog whistle to put them, in their ivory towers, on the back foot.

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