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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Mon May 30, 2016, 11:08 PM May 2016

95 years ago today, white Tulsans burned down the richest black neighborhood in the country

http://tulsahistory.org/learn/online-exhibits/the-tulsa-race-riot/

(NB: The city of Tulsa only started publicly admitting this happened a few years ago...)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_riot

Tulsa was the jewel of the first wave of the Great Migration. The neighborhood of Greenwood was where black migrants from the cotton states who had made money working the oil wells settled, prospered, and eventually grew richer than their white neighbors; it was known throughout the near west as "Black Wall Street" (they probably didn't say "black" at the time, but anyways). 1500 black-owned businesses and residences were burned and looted, and 300 residents (mostly African American) killed. The neighborhood partially rebuilt, but was leveled in the 1950s in the frenzy to bulldoze black neighborhoods and put freeways over them.

For 95 years the survivors and their descendants have sought reparations. In 1996 the state legislature finally agreed to do a study; the only provisions that were actually enacted were a historical center (which has since lost all of its public funding) and a scholarship fund for survivors' descendants (which has since been cut).
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95 years ago today, white Tulsans burned down the richest black neighborhood in the country (Original Post) Recursion May 2016 OP
Dropped bombs on them...nt Jesus Malverde May 2016 #1
Interestingly the soldiers universally reported taking fire from both black and white groups Recursion May 2016 #2
The blacks were most likely defending themselves, the whites . . . who know? brush May 2016 #3
Not to mention the soldiers were mostly recent WWI vets Recursion May 2016 #5
There were likely veterans among all sides JHB May 2016 #14
Maybe the white shooters were just blindly firing at everybody. raging moderate May 2016 #9
Absolutely horrible stuff Hydra May 2016 #4
Why call it a riot? Islandurp May 2016 #6
Yup. Hortensis May 2016 #15
Precisely malaise May 2016 #19
+1000 heaven05 May 2016 #24
Excellent post malaise May 2016 #25
This is what struck out at me bluestateguy May 2016 #7
In the book Sundown Towns gollygee May 2016 #17
You would be lucky to find one in 1000 Americans who even know of this fact Hulk May 2016 #8
Or the 1898 Wilmington coup (nt) Recursion May 2016 #10
K & R for exposure. nt SunSeeker May 2016 #11
The production company I work for has a TV series lined up about this called Greenwood Feeling the Bern May 2016 #12
"1,000 whites at the courthouse went home for their own guns" Babel_17 May 2016 #13
Last I read it, it was. Igel May 2016 #16
With "a good history" I was thinking of a book length accounting Babel_17 May 2016 #20
K&R brer cat May 2016 #18
A sad and horrible piece of US history. aikoaiko May 2016 #21
k+r Blue_Tires May 2016 #22
A short video of Reconciliation Park in the Greenwood and Archer area of Tulsa: ret5hd May 2016 #23
Those attacked and terrorized... Dont call me Shirley May 2016 #26
They actually did call it the "Black Wall Street" yellerpup May 2016 #27
Thank you! Catherine Vincent May 2016 #28

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
2. Interestingly the soldiers universally reported taking fire from both black and white groups
Mon May 30, 2016, 11:15 PM
May 2016

I've never been sure what to make of that.

brush

(53,776 posts)
3. The blacks were most likely defending themselves, the whites . . . who know?
Mon May 30, 2016, 11:56 PM
May 2016

They probably thought the solders were stopping them from more killing.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
5. Not to mention the soldiers were mostly recent WWI vets
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:28 AM
May 2016

Like, people who you probably wouldn't want to shoot at if you'd like to not die, but they managed to not slaughter the white Tulsans.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
14. There were likely veterans among all sides
Tue May 31, 2016, 06:05 AM
May 2016

Among the OKlahoma NG soldiers, among the white rioters, and among the black defenders.

raging moderate

(4,305 posts)
9. Maybe the white shooters were just blindly firing at everybody.
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:42 AM
May 2016

They sound as if they were not behaving rationally.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
4. Absolutely horrible stuff
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:21 AM
May 2016

The growing realization that we are all related makes this even more horrible and hateful. "How dare you be successful and think you're as good as us! We'll destroy you!"

malaise

(268,980 posts)
19. Precisely
Tue May 31, 2016, 07:48 AM
May 2016

Last edited Tue May 31, 2016, 07:42 PM - Edit history (1)

They find a way to destroy black wealth any time folks achieve.
You'd never know it was white people who enslaved us- the hatred remains palpable because when we achieve it destroys centuries of myths. It's why they hate Obama.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
24. +1000
Tue May 31, 2016, 07:32 PM
May 2016

true.....this hate receded for a while, but the election of our current POTUS brought them out of their stinking sewers and fetid swamps again. And now they have a full blown racist as their leader and just look at his raving, lunatic and racist base of cretins just chomping at the bit to be let loose on minorities of all persuasions. How many would stand around, with tobacco juice from their chew dribbling down their redneck chins, drinking whiskey while guffawing and celebrating as a black body or bodies of black men, women and children were gunned down or had bombs dropped on them. This is still one racist ass country, no doubt.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
7. This is what struck out at me
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:14 AM
May 2016
Newspaper coverage

The Tulsa Tribune, one of two white-owned papers published in Tulsa, broke the story in that afternoon's edition with the headline: "Nab Negro for Attacking Girl In an Elevator", describing the alleged incident. According to some witnesses, the same edition of the Tribune included an editorial warning of a potential lynching of Rowland, and entitled "To Lynch Negro Tonight." The paper was known at the time to have a "sensationalist" style of news writing. All original copies of that issue of the paper have apparently been destroyed, and the relevant page is missing from the microfilm copy, so the exact content of the column (and whether it existed at all) remains in dispute.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_riot

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
17. In the book Sundown Towns
Tue May 31, 2016, 07:32 AM
May 2016

The author talks about how he'd hear about a racial terrorism incident, such as a lynching or riot or other violence, and then he'd go to the local library to read about it, and generally that issue of the paper would be mysteriously missing.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
8. You would be lucky to find one in 1000 Americans who even know of this fact
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:40 AM
May 2016

You would be lucky to find one in 1000 Americans who even know of this fact. We are purposely kept ignorant. This is one tragic event this hidden deep in the archives of atrocities against the Negroes in America.

Watch the kitten Burns documentary on reconstruction sometime. "We are #1" is such shallow bull shit. Our history is filled with courageous characters and centuries of atrocities.

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
12. The production company I work for has a TV series lined up about this called Greenwood
Tue May 31, 2016, 02:05 AM
May 2016

We have a bunch of these socially conscience projects lined up. I'm writing two of them now.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
13. "1,000 whites at the courthouse went home for their own guns"
Tue May 31, 2016, 02:16 AM
May 2016

The wikipedia article itself is hair raising. I'm sure a good history would be even more so.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
16. Last I read it, it was.
Tue May 31, 2016, 06:41 AM
May 2016

It left a few places where the incident was dying down, only to have it revved back up again.

No innocents, lots of suspicion.

The "soldiers were fired on by both sides" makes sense if the entirety of the Wiki piece (as it was last year, at least) is accepted. If you absolve your own community and believe that it has to be entirely the other side's fault, well, then, some of the facts just can't fit and have to be overlooked.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
20. With "a good history" I was thinking of a book length accounting
Tue May 31, 2016, 10:20 AM
May 2016

I have no issue with the wikipedia entry though my wording did leave that up in the air. Sorry about that.

I just meant that even the highly abbreviated telling at wikipedia was hair raising, and that a longer version would be more so.

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
21. A sad and horrible piece of US history.
Tue May 31, 2016, 10:55 AM
May 2016

I'd like to see the full report on reparations for this event and what was recommended.


yellerpup

(12,253 posts)
27. They actually did call it the "Black Wall Street"
Tue May 31, 2016, 08:09 PM
May 2016

This was after Marcus Garvey and W.E.B. DuBoise started people thinking of themselves in a different way - with pride in their dark skin. This was also a time of the largest growth of the KKK since the Civil War, and hideously violent movement. With a population of about 1,100 in 1900 that grew to 110,000 by 1921 (oil), Tulsa was the only city in the US where telephone booths were segregated. What is almost never mentioned about the "Greenwood Massacre" (formerly known as the Tulsa Race Riot) is that the 'downtown' area of Tulsa was moved away from the Greenwood area a few miles south a year after statehood (1908) because the mixed-bloods (Native American/Black, White/Black) owned the property and there was no 'ground floor' in real estate left. I know quite a lot about it, I was born in Tulsa, I am Cherokee mixed blood. I believe that this attack was in the planning stages, including the aerial assault, for at least two years beforehand. They were trying to duplicate the bloody "Red Summer" of 1919 when poor whites rioted and killed hundred near St. Louis.

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