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historian

(2,475 posts)
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 04:41 AM Jun 2016

trump

Sadly, Americans are notoriously stupid and ignorant and that is why Trump will win. Most think that because he is rich he is smart. He is not smart in that sense - he is clever because he has lawyers who understand and manipulate the bankruptcy laws which allow him to rid himself of debt and start over. He had started 4 companies all of which failed. However, he does put on a good show and that is what Americans want, not substance. Now i challenge any Trump supporter to tell me one thing he has said re our deficit, our violence, our awful educational system which produces illiterates by the thousands and the corruption of out government which is run by money and big corporations.

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trump (Original Post) historian Jun 2016 OP
well no need to declare him winner yet MFM008 Jun 2016 #1
but its scary historian Jun 2016 #2
The scariest thing is... Paka Jun 2016 #3
I guess your take on the political world needs some further expansion so here: beachbum bob Jun 2016 #4
thank you historian Jun 2016 #5

Paka

(2,760 posts)
3. The scariest thing is...
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 06:33 AM
Jun 2016

...that his presumptive competition is so radically damaged and carries so much baggage. We can do better than this!

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
4. I guess your take on the political world needs some further expansion so here:
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 06:55 AM
Jun 2016

1....Koch Bros monies NOT going to Trump but to the libertarian candidate Johnson...millions and millions...
2.....RNC fundraising has been near NON EXISTENT since trump secured the nomination, the big GOP money is sitting put as they know it will be just thrown away on trump
3....trump is 40 million in debt to himself and now seeking bailout from RNC....unlikely as RNC DOES NOT FUND primary candidates campaigns....
4. the likely hood of $1 billion superpac monies available for trump (like there was for romney) aint happening
5....the likely trump voter and supporter has better things to spend their money on like beer and ammo....

and of course we trump himself...who has declared war on the media and the journalists....pretty dumb tactic when YOU need them more than they need you..Trump can't and won't keep his mouth shut....and he CAN'T be managed....


THE only way trump could win would be for massive and I mean massive numbers of democrats not voting and that is pretty much impossible...as everything that comes out of trumps mouth spurs all democrats to come out to vote.


the likely scenario is hillary wins with between 350 and 400 electoral votes, the conservatives lose congress back to the Democrats....unprecedented numbers of women, hispanics as well as all other minorities vote overwhelmingly for hillary...Gary Johnson takes between 6-8% of the vote with 90% coming from those who might have voted for any other conservative candidate.....several red states move into the purple world...states like Texas, Georgia, South Carolina...hillary could actually win those if Johnson picks up votes in the 8% range....

historian

(2,475 posts)
5. thank you
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:15 AM
Jun 2016

To be honest, as a foreigner, I dont understand the american system of voting. I would think that a real and honest voting would be a count of the popular vote from all of the states. Delegates, super delegates, gerrymandering, electoral college. I think that the popular vote is meaningless. W.Bush proved that when his brother jeb told him 2 weeks before the election, that Florida was his. How is that possible? If you can explain the system to me, i would be most grateful.

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