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kpete

(71,988 posts)
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:35 AM Jun 2016

Donald Trump is splitting the white vote in ways we’ve never seen before

Donald Trump is splitting the white vote in ways we’ve never seen before

By Scott Clement
May 31 at 12:24 PM

The potential for the 2016 election to widen America’s racial voting chasm even further is nothing new. But Washington Post-ABC News polls have also identified a related dynamic: White Americans are splintering along education and gender lines at rates not seen in at least three decades.

These contours are well-known among political watchers; whites without four-year college degrees and men tend to be more Republican than women and college grads. But while these cleavages are seen across elections, it’s easy to forget that the gaps are typically not all that large — at least in comparison to this year.

Take 2012. Mitt Romney won 61 percent of non-college whites compared with 56 percent of white college grads. The gap was nearly identical between white men and white women, 62 and 56 percent.

Now, according to the latest Post-ABC poll released last week: Donald Trump received 65 percent support among white registered voters without a four-year college degree, compared with 46 percent among white college graduates, a 19-point gap. If the margin holds, it would easily be the largest education gap among whites in presidential elections since 1980.


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Donald Trump is splitting the white vote in ways we’ve never seen before (Original Post) kpete Jun 2016 OP
My only surprise at this gap is that it is just 19 points wide. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #1
the real problem is white men--Trump leads amongst them by 47%--not with 47%, by 47% geek tragedy Jun 2016 #7
fuckin wow!!! by 47%... uponit7771 Jun 2016 #11
welcome to post-racial, post-sexism Murica nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #12
We men can be real shits at times. Trump as the ultimate expression of white male privaledge Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #15
Romney laid people off. Outsourced jobs. Trump is talking about tarriffs. hollowdweller Jun 2016 #2
I think this is accurate alarimer Jun 2016 #18
factor in the number of women....including the white women that won't vote for trump beachbum bob Jun 2016 #3
Only 22% of white men say they'll vote for Hillary? Dear God, what is wrong with my demographic? muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #4
Trump is a men's rights, white nationalist. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #6
+Infinity! - nt KingCharlemagne Jun 2016 #13
How many of those would never vote for a woman president? Democat Jun 2016 #10
"I love the poorly educated" he said Maeve Jun 2016 #5
Does not surprise me... bobGandolf Jun 2016 #8
Not seen since Ronald Reagan won Democat Jun 2016 #9
Trump is more popular with white men than Reagan was! nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #14
That is scary Democat Jun 2016 #16
I told everyone my college education would pay off. Even if I didn't get a good job . . . Journeyman Jun 2016 #17
White Men Don't Trump. TeamPooka Jun 2016 #19
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2016 #20

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
1. My only surprise at this gap is that it is just 19 points wide.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:38 AM
Jun 2016

I blame that on the state of education in America.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
7. the real problem is white men--Trump leads amongst them by 47%--not with 47%, by 47%
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:07 AM
Jun 2016

Trump is the voice of white male privilege, and a lot of men support him precisely because they've been taught to be sexist and racist

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
15. We men can be real shits at times. Trump as the ultimate expression of white male privaledge
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 12:02 PM
Jun 2016

explains a lot.

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
2. Romney laid people off. Outsourced jobs. Trump is talking about tarriffs.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:50 AM
Jun 2016

We can argue about how sincere Trump is with his anti trade, populist rhetoric.

However we have always said here that the GOP allows people to vote their fears and prejudices over their economic interest.

With Trump and his seeming support for not cutting Social Security, his tough talk on Free Trade, and even his suggestion recently that wages were too low we have a GOP candidate that can offer BOTH.

Now we can make a case he is not sincere in many of his multiple conflicting positions, but the same can be made against Clinton.

It's going to be a tough election I think because both candidates have credibility issues. I think Clinton needs to make people aware she has specific plans vs Trumps vague promises. However I think for low information voters Trump is a better salesman because he appeals to the gut instinct, and I think those voters are really going to turn out for him.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
18. I think this is accurate
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 02:33 PM
Jun 2016

I don't understand his appeal. I can't understand why people think he is telling the truth when he clearly never has. But I think Thomas Frank has a lot to say to Democrats in particular about dismissing the legions of Trump supporters. Democrats have alienated these people through the years, by hitching their wagons to Silicon Valley and Wall Street. Sanders at least was different, which explains his appeal, but Clinton (and honestly every other Democrat I could name) has that same baggage and more.

This will not be fun.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
3. factor in the number of women....including the white women that won't vote for trump
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:57 AM
Jun 2016

we know hispanics, blacks americans...and just about all other minorities won't vote for trump....good lord...remember how after 2012 election debacle for the GOP and the RNC announced they were going to be serious on the outreach to women...to hispanics??? That has worked really well

we could see over 70% level of women voters for hillary
....higher levels of hispanic voters....perhaps to 80-90% for hillary...


record setting trends that trump and RNC have no hopes of preventing

muriel_volestrangler

(101,311 posts)
4. Only 22% of white men say they'll vote for Hillary? Dear God, what is wrong with my demographic?
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 10:30 AM
Jun 2016

That's appalling.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
10. How many of those would never vote for a woman president?
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:17 AM
Jun 2016

Even though some of them say publicly that they supported Palin, she didn't win.

bobGandolf

(871 posts)
8. Does not surprise me...
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:14 AM
Jun 2016

"... whites without four-year college degrees and men tend to be more Republican than women and college grads. But while these cleavages are seen across elections, it’s easy to forget that the gaps are typically not all that large — at least in comparison to this year."

and we wonder why republicans are so anti-education...

Democat

(11,617 posts)
9. Not seen since Ronald Reagan won
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:15 AM
Jun 2016

We all know how that turned out.

All Democrats need to vote for our candidate to beat Trump.

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
17. I told everyone my college education would pay off. Even if I didn't get a good job . . .
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 01:42 PM
Jun 2016

being educated is its own reward. And here I am, forty years out of college, hitting the "jackpot of intellect" (and with a decent career, as well).

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