General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI don't understand how in the hell Donald Trump is the Republican nominee.
The Establishment loathes him. The donors hate him for taking away their influence. And the grassroots right-wing activists would rather have someone reliably ultraconservative like Ted Cruz.
And yet...the Republican Party (with the Speaker of the House and nominal leader of the party) is lining up from top-to-bottom to endorse this unbelievably shameless narcissistic clown - a man who has no loyalty to any party, anyone, or anything other than his own brand (which for some reason, a lot of people seem to equate with him being a business genius. I guess it is pretty shrewd to waste other people's money in a series of comically bad investments and bankruptcies...).
What's the deal? Are we really this far down the rabbit hole? This is truly surreal.
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
MFM008
(20,042 posts)Took on this question as well
he had no answer.
Neither would Einstein, DiVinci, Oppenheimer,
and any one else with an IQ above 2 digits.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Many people seem fed up with control of their lives zigzagging between Pub and Pub Lite and neither doing much of anything good, let alone great, for a majority of Americans. And, whereas the Republicans seemed to be more Stepford than Democrats (at least if Will Rogers is to be believed), that seems to have changed. They are no longer willing to vote as their Party's leaders, talking heads, etc. direct, while Democrats are--or so it would seem, anyway.
http://jackpineradicals.org/content.php?107-Trump-Why-Have-I-Been-Surprised
pangaia
(24,324 posts)CNN...THAT's how !!!!
YoungDemCA
(5,714 posts)and hearing what the Morans were ranting about.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)
SCantiGOP
(14,719 posts)Since the Nixon days. He is the embodiment of what they have been peddling to fire up the base. They didn't expect it to get out of control, and now they can't control it.
I hope and think this may be the end of the Republican Party.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)And Republican voters appear to be appallingly stupid.
As for the establishment folks falling in line behind the head lemming? That's what they do; that's why they're Republicans.
merrily
(45,251 posts)to help her candidate that almost all media oxygen was devoted to the Republican debates and Republican candidates.
JVS
(61,935 posts)Evidently a party's leadership can only be so unpopular before being replaced
merrily
(45,251 posts)That's why so little changes.
Rex
(65,616 posts)A blockhead, idiotic, walking talking con man.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)braddy
(3,585 posts)when they tried to attack him the media would not cover or support their attacks but instead covered Trump's come backs and insults in great detail.
For example when Cruz won Iowa he didn't get a bounce, instead the media CUT his coverage in the days following and gave the momentum to 3rd place Rubio, nor did the media ever cover Cruz as the first Hispanic to ever win a primary, etc., throughout the primary it was like that, 2 billion dollars of media covering Trump as the leader of all things.
Whether he was calling Carson a pathological child molester, or taking out Jeb Bush, or attacking Cruz's wife, the media was always selling Trump, or more accurately, just asking Trump to sell himself, if you go back and look at all the interviews, it was Trump handling the entire interview as a personal advertisement, while the interviewers just nodded.
Trump alone could not manage to diminish so many major American figures in the primary, in party politics, in the media, and everywhere, unless he had the media helping him, he never even had to buy ads, he could wake up and call in from his bed, and win the day, everyday.
tblue37
(68,436 posts)America, he was great for CBS's bottom line, so he wanted Trump to keep on keepin' on.
azmom
(5,208 posts)Problem.
dhill926
(16,953 posts)stupid, fucking, racist, authoritarian assholes....or something like that...
maryellen99
(3,798 posts)Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Gave them all unforgettable nicknames on the way out. To see the Bush family humiliated was particularly sweet. Low energy Jeb - unforgettable.
I suspect those lining up don't have much of a choice. The religious base of the party has been made irrelevant for a number of reasons and big business will support whichever party wins.
They now have a rabid meat eating base that can be easily turned on the party establishment, since they have lost control.
alc
(1,151 posts)Hopefully it's truely misunderstanding for you. A lot of people running campaigns are in denial rather than simply not understanding, and that needs to change. Not sue if it's allowed here but blog.dilbert.com.
yes, the dilbert comic strip, but a good blog on "persuasion" and Trump's a "master" and Hillary and her campaign are not and Adams makes good arguements that have played out as he predicted throughout the primaries. He claims to be neutral but don't read it if you may be offended by pro-Trump blogs and I hope I'm not alerted for posting - this seems to be an relevent to the OP.
3catwoman3
(29,406 posts)...more accurate if you expand it to mean appealing to people's baser instincts. Trump has made it OK to be a completely crass bigoted asshole in public.
sorefeet
(1,241 posts)I never imagined someone so in your face nuts, could ever get this far into being president of America. I never imagined so many people could follow this ignorance and hate. Shows me how fucked up our education system is in this country also. It sure turned out a bunch of racist bigots in the last 60 years to be a so called civilized nation.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)It's also a backlash against a black presidency. All of tRump's supporters are the same Neanderthals (my apologies to Neanderthals) who hate and talk shit about President Obama and his family. They see this as "Make(ing) America Great Again", to put the whitest, most racist, most foul-mouthed, most vile piece of shit they could find at the head of their miserable party.
This thing is scary as hell. Nothing like it has ever turned out well anywhere in the world. Ever.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Dimson's brudder and Poppy's son? Third member of the Bush crime family in the Oval Office?
Governor "I can't remember the third one?" Perry?
Rick "Google it" Santorum?
Governor "Praise the Lord for Republican government" Kasich?
hatrack
(64,887 posts)On the down line, all of the prattling sockpuppets in suits. What was on their lips? The same old glib shit - tax cuts, liberals bad, Obama evil, Hillary worse and RonaldReaganRonaldReaganRonaldReagan. And the more their lips flapped, the more obvious their desperation became - their desperation to cover up the simple and unavoidable fact that things don't work for most people anymore.
On the up line, tens of millions of people, long since envenomated by conservative "thinking" representing the full spectrum from wishful to magical. They've had 30 years or more to absorb the hate, the pus, the idiocy. And all this time they've been told they're special, they've been reassured that they're The Real Americans, and their paranoia has been lovingly nurtured and fed and cossetted. They, too, have realized that things don't work anymore, and they've finally realized that the sockpuppets have had a big part in bringing this unfortunate reality to fruition.
Enter Trump. He doesn't have "policy", he doesn't have "ideas", he doesn't have "positions". What he has are short, simple sentences, promises to make aw the boo-boos better, and lots and lots of people to blame. He has what lots of people want - simple answers to complex problems, and a license to hate. And since Teh Stupid is all Teh Stupid have left to work with, he's their guy.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)This is oddly effective because there is nothing for him to defend, debate or flush out. When you consider how clueless the average American consumer is, it's very effective.
hatrack
(64,887 posts)As it is, he just lies and denies and flips and backtracks on pretty much everything.
He's too stupid and the lies are too blatant for him to get away with it with a majority of voters (I hope!). However, a marginally more skilled demagogue would have a better chance to make the scam work.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)
spanone
(141,610 posts)he was nominated by the media, they spent 2 billion dollars presenting donald fucking trump
he's an outlier.
moondust
(21,286 posts)For years the ordinary bigots have been expecting a cut of the spoils in return for their votes. Too bad. The loot has all gone to the politicians and their paymasters. The fools have finally figured out that they've been played.
But do you think they're going to join up with that other party with all its minorities and gun haters? Think again. That's who they hate.
So who does that leave? Hmmm...
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)And the bigots, birthers, and haters turned out for the primaries.
The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)Person 2713
(3,263 posts)with a big win and congress and local sweep too.
Starry Messenger
(32,381 posts)He sang the song of their people. Some like to pretend that these voters are closet economic populists, but they aren't. They are bigots.