Fri Jun 3, 2016, 04:33 PM
EL34x4 (2,003 posts)
Man who identified as a woman was allowed in our all-women's shelter.
Man who identified as a woman was allowed in our all-women's shelter. It was the wrong call (OPINION), May 24, 2016, Malta Davis, Guest Columnist, Oregon Live
In June 2014, I was admitted to a women's homeless shelter in Northeast Portland. This was my second attempt to lift myself out of homelessness through the assistance of Transition Projects, which runs the shelter. http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2016/05/man_who_self-identified_as_a_w.html With the discussion focused on public restrooms and locker rooms, I ran across this and wondered, what about women's homeless shelters? I didn't see this posted.
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EL34x4 | Jun 2016 | OP |
braddy | Jun 2016 | #1 | |
uppityperson | Jun 2016 | #16 | |
braddy | Jun 2016 | #19 | |
Post removed | Jun 2016 | #2 | |
REP | Jun 2016 | #4 | |
EL34x4 | Jun 2016 | #5 | |
KamaAina | Jun 2016 | #3 | |
Warren Stupidity | Jun 2016 | #6 | |
EL34x4 | Jun 2016 | #7 | |
Warren Stupidity | Jun 2016 | #8 | |
Humanist_Activist | Jun 2016 | #9 | |
romanic | Jun 2016 | #10 | |
EL34x4 | Jun 2016 | #12 | |
Warren Stupidity | Jun 2016 | #13 | |
romanic | Jun 2016 | #15 | |
uppityperson | Jun 2016 | #18 | |
Warren DeMontague | Jun 2016 | #11 | |
yardwork | Jun 2016 | #14 | |
uppityperson | Jun 2016 | #17 | |
LostOne4Ever | Jun 2016 | #20 |
Response to EL34x4 (Original post)
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 05:08 PM
braddy (3,585 posts)
1. I have done volunteer work repairing a small women's shelter in a two bedroom house with
with bunk beds, the women seem pretty fragile to me and already have enough on their minds, having a transgender joining them in that little living room and in their bedroom, might not be popular with them.
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Response to braddy (Reply #1)
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:39 PM
uppityperson (115,452 posts)
16. I've volunteered a lot and what about women whose abusers were women?
Response to uppityperson (Reply #16)
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 04:34 PM
braddy (3,585 posts)
19. I give up, what about them?
Response to EL34x4 (Original post)
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Response to Post removed (Reply #2)
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 05:18 PM
REP (21,691 posts)
4. That's an anti-abortion, anti-LGBT garbage site
Calling it garbage is an insult to garbage, though.
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Response to REP (Reply #4)
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 05:21 PM
EL34x4 (2,003 posts)
5. That assault was covered in mainstream media sources as well.
http://www.torontosun.com/2014/02/26/predator-who-claimed-to-be-transgender-declared-dangerous-offender
You are 100% correct about LifeSiteNews.com though. |
Response to EL34x4 (Original post)
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 05:16 PM
KamaAina (78,249 posts)
3. SF has an all-LGBT shelter.
http://kron4.com/2015/06/17/nations-first-lgbt-homeless-shelter-opens-in-sf/
Jazzie’s Place, the first homeless shelter for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender adults in the U.S., opened in San Francisco’s Mission District today to help serve the housing needs of nearly a third of the city’s homeless population who identify as LGBT.
Wendy Phillips, the director of Dolores Street Community Services and Jazzie’s Place, said the new shelter is intended to be a space where all shelter guests are treated with dignity and respect. The shelter is named after Jazzie Collins, a transgender African American woman who was an advocate for homeless LGBT folks prior to her death in 2013. Collins was also among those who helped dream up the LGBT shelter, according to Tommi Avicolli Mecca, the director of counseling programs at the Housing Rights Committee of San Francisco. I ran into Jazzie at quite a few budget actions back in the Ahh-nuld era. ![]() |
Response to EL34x4 (Original post)
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 05:23 PM
Warren Stupidity (48,181 posts)
6. Ok where should a homeless transgender woman find shelter?
Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #6)
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 05:27 PM
EL34x4 (2,003 posts)
7. Women's shelters
Where else should they go?
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Response to EL34x4 (Reply #7)
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 10:26 PM
Warren Stupidity (48,181 posts)
8. yeah. And they are likely to be at risk there as well.
Response to EL34x4 (Original post)
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 10:32 PM
Humanist_Activist (7,670 posts)
9. Eh, transphobic piece of shit has an opinion, and it should carry weight why? n/t
Response to EL34x4 (Original post)
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 10:34 PM
romanic (2,841 posts)
10. Was it an actual trans woman or just a dude saying he was a woman?
Judging by how upset the women were at this shelter, I think it may have been the latter.
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Response to romanic (Reply #10)
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:32 AM
EL34x4 (2,003 posts)
12. Who makes this decision?
Some people are gender fluid and may at any time identify as male, female, genderqueer, pangender, trigender, other non-binary identity, or any combination of identities.
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Response to EL34x4 (Reply #12)
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:41 AM
Warren Stupidity (48,181 posts)
13. Cis transphobes.
Response to EL34x4 (Reply #12)
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:35 PM
romanic (2,841 posts)
15. Okay.
pangender, trigender, other non-binary identity, or any combination of identities. All this is new to me. :I |
Response to romanic (Reply #10)
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:42 PM
uppityperson (115,452 posts)
18. If you read the article, it was an "actual" trans woman and the author's transphobia is clear
But at no point did I come to regard Clarence as a woman, nor did I refer to him as one. I saw him as an intelligent, sensitive, but very fragile and confused man. That is to say, I afforded him the dignity he deserved as a human being without denying the truth of his gender.
(clip) for every man who is admitted into a women's shelter under the speciousness of gender ideology, untold numbers of bona fide women are left waiting on the streets. That is not just unfair, it's unjust. |
Response to EL34x4 (Original post)
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 10:40 PM
Warren DeMontague (80,708 posts)
11. This sort of bigotry is not new phenomenon, sadly.
The condescending, nasty tone of that piece is real nice, especially considering the fact that transgender people who are also homeless probably constitute one of the MOST marginalized groups in all of society. Yet the verbiage she uses about the woman in question- "a confused man", scare quotes around self-identified; typical.
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Response to EL34x4 (Original post)
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 10:46 AM
yardwork (54,480 posts)
14. Anybody promoting this scare tactic should be ashamed of themselves.
I've never seen such lies and hysteria directed at a tiny, vulnerable population.
People need to grow up. Deal with your own personal problems instead of spreading hysterical lies about trans people who are trying to mind their own business. |
Response to EL34x4 (Original post)
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:41 PM
uppityperson (115,452 posts)
17. This part shows the author's transphobia.
But at no point did I come to regard Clarence as a woman, nor did I refer to him as one. I saw him as an intelligent, sensitive, but very fragile and confused man. That is to say, I afforded him the dignity he deserved as a human being without denying the truth of his gender.
(clip) for every man who is admitted into a women's shelter under the speciousness of gender ideology, untold numbers of bona fide women are left waiting on the streets. That is not just unfair, it's unjust. Bull. Shit. |
Response to EL34x4 (Original post)
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 04:58 PM
LostOne4Ever (8,677 posts)