Houston, We Have a Glyphosate Problem

[JohnyCanuck]

By Makia Freeman

We all have a massive glyphosate problem on our hands, even if you have eaten 100% organic food all your life. The pesticide chemical glyphosate, Monsanto’s gift to mankind, is totally out of control – not just in the US, but also in Europe, Australia and many other nations that use it. Glyphosate is almost constantly in the news, as study after study reveal just how widespread, toxic and carcinogenic it is. It’s the most used pesticide in the world. Meanwhile, the US, EU, UN and others all argue over how this lethal chemical killer should be classified and labeled – despite the fact it’s showing up in people’s urine, breast milk and blood (yes – even those avoiding GMOs), and despite the fact that it has been found to be, in the words of an MIT scientist, “the most destructive chemical in our environment.” Although glyphosate used to be the patented chemical solely belonging to Monsanto and used in its Roundup formula, it is now used by other Big Biotech corporate multinationals such as Dow in their Durango pesticide formula. Now, with the NWO corporatocracy trying to push through the TTIP in secret, backroom deals are being made (such as Big Pharma company Bayer trying to buy out Big Biotech company Monsanto) that could spread glyphosate even further. When is the world going to wake up and acknowledge the uncontrolled glyphosate problem we face?
How Glyphosate Kills Plants – And You

Glyphosate is such an effective killer because it gets into plants and prevents them from taking up their normal nutrients – thus starving them to death. Glyphosate depletes micronutrients (such as calcium, zinc, magnesium, sulfur and cobalt, just to name a few) which are essential for health in plant and animal organisms. Specifically, glyphosate interferes with the shikimate pathway, a metabolic function in plants which allows them to create essential amino acids or proteins. Without this pathway functioning properly, the plant cannot survive.

Although animals and humans don’t have a shikimate pathway, here comes the glyphosate problem: the bacteria in our gut (microbiome or microbiota) do have this pathway, and we are reliant upon this microbiome in our gut for our health, immunity and our “second brain.” When we allow glyphosate to infiltrate our system, it destroys our gut and subsequently our immune system.

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Last year in 2015, Dr. Anthony Samsel and Dr. Stefanie Seneff analyzed 15,000 pages of scientific documents on Monsanto’s glyphosate research. Their conclusion was that Monsanto’s claims of safety were entirely false. Monsanto knew they had a glyphosate problem, that glyphosate was responsible for a variety of organ failures and cancers, but hid and distorted the data to protect its profit. As Justin Gardner writes in Newly Unsealed Documents Reveal EPA & Monsanto Always Knew Roundup Was Deadly Toxic:

According to Samsel, Monsanto intentionally corrupted animal studies by using animals that were already sick with cancer and organ failures as controls. Based on the metrics used in these studies, this made those animals exposed to glyphosate appear no more afflicted than the control animals because all of the animals ended up getting sick.

http://www.naturalblaze.com/2016/06/houston-we-have-a-glyphosate-problem.html

[Rex]

1. 8.53 for a 16oz jar of peanut butter!?

[Dont call me Shirley]

65. If all our food would be organic and government subsidized instead of gmos then the cost of

food would dramatically decrease!

[Major Nikon]

75. So why are non-subsidized foods more expensive when they are organic?

Things like lettuce, spinach, oranges, tomatoes, and lots of other things aren't subsidized, yet the organic versions are considerably more expensive. So why is that?

[deaniac21]

89. crickets.....

[womanofthehills]

93. Always very reasonable at the Whole Foods in Albuquerque

[Major Nikon]

94. "On average, organic foods were 47 percent more expensive,"

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2015/03/cost-of-organic-food/index.htm

http://www.ers.usda.gov/dataFiles/Organic_Prices/Current/Vegetables.xls

Our regulations do not address food safety or nutrition.

https://www.ams.usda.gov/about-ams/programs-offices/national-organic-program

[Archae]

2. Did you actually think any of us wouldn't check your bullshit website?

I found this there...

Texas Medical Board Wages War Against Humanity On Behalf Of Big Pharma – Dr Burzynski Trial Update

By Bernie Suarez A Texas-based physician, doctor Stanislaw Burzynski is on trial and everyone should know what this is about. The Texas Medical Board is attempting to revoke his medical license for his crime of curing his patients of cancer by treating them with a therapy called antineoplaston therapy. His crime is that antineoplaston is…

http://www.naturalblaze.com/2016/05/texas-medical-board-wages-war-against-humanity-on-behalf-of-big-pharma-dr-burzynski-trial-update.html

Burzynski is a fraud, a liar and a quack.

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/burzynski1.html

And your article is that you posted is just as much one big pile of bullshit as the above article.

And this lulu of a shit article is linked in your article!

http://www.naturalblaze.com/2015/10/the-monsanto-autism-parasite-connection.html

[Bonx]

5. You're telling me naturalblaze.com isn't on the cutting edge of real science ???

But it has 'natural' right in the name ?

[HuckleB]

10. Samsel and Seneff alone should have alerted him to know that this is nonsense.

https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/glyphosate-the-new-bogeyman/

https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/seneff-claims-gmos-cause-concussions/

[felix_numinous]

3. The overuse of pesticides herbacides and insecticides kills the soil

balance of microorganisms just as the overuse of antibiotics kills the balance of flora in the intestines. These super corporations' hunger for profits are killing the Earth from the ground up. And dead Earth does not hold water, which changes weather patterns.

The soil is a living organism and should contain a diverse array of life forms. I read somewhere that for every 1 pest insect in a balanced ecosystem there will be 1700 beneficial ones. This concept applies to our internal bacteria too, we need beneficial bacteria to kill off the harmful ones.

[Major Nikon]

53. Woo squared

[Major Nikon]

59. Do you know what "occupational exposure" means?

[KamaAina]

4. They lost me at "The Glyphosate-Autism Connection"

[Humanist_Activist]

7. Glyphosate apparently is the cause of all human misery, if you were to listen to some of DU's...

alt-reality crowd.

[HuckleB]

11. Samsel and Seneff! They found that everything is caused by glyphosate!

GMOs even cause concussions, apparently.

http://www.science20.com/agricultural_realism/a_fishy_attempt_to_link_glyphosate_and_celiac_disease-132928

[Major Nikon]

63. The author is a batshit crazy promoter of "New World Order" conspiracy theories

Much of the author's shit repeats anti-Semitic garbage.

The bio is priceless

Makia Freeman is the editor of The Freedom Articles and senior researcher at ToolsForFreedom.com, writing on many aspects of the the global conspiracy, from vaccines to Zionism to false flag operations and more, and also including info on natural health, sovereignty and higher consciousness.

Nuttier than squirrel shit.

[Humanist_Activist]

6. Is there any evidence of any of the wild claims about the toxicity of glyphosate from your website?

Looks like an anti-vax, anti-science website, as per normal.

[womanofthehills]

9. Glyphosate is only 40% of Roundup - 60% other toxic chemicals

"A study done by Monroe on Vision, a glyphosate product by Monsanto, revealed that it contained 1,4-dioxane at a level of 350 ppm.
“The current Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) permissible exposure limit (PEL) for dioxane is 100 ppm.”

((over OSHA limits - where the hell is the FDA?))

((Also Roundup has POEA - more highly toxic than glyphosate))

In the case of herbicides like Roundup that contain glyphosate as the main active compound and are applied on genetically engineered plants, the German authorities have taken action to prevent risks to human health. Very often these herbicides are mixed with so called POEA, polyoxyethylene alkylamine, to make the herbicide glyphosate more efficient. Meanwhile POEA are now known to be more highly toxic than glyphosate. According to the German Federal Office for Consumer Protection and Food Safety (BVL), POEA may be transferred to consumers from feed and animal-derived products. Therefore, German farmers have been advised not to use these herbicide sprays in the cultivation of plants used in feed production. However, there were no intensified controls or measures taken in regard to feed imports such as genetically engineered soy.

http://farmwars.info/?p=5943

[Humanist_Activist]

14. I took me less than 5 seconds of googling to determine that you and that article...

are wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1,4-Dioxane

Fuck, at least attempt to make it harder to debunk such things.

[womanofthehills]

17. Actually you are wrong - 59 % of Roundup is POEA usually contaminated with dioxane

What's Wrong With Roundup?

Product: ROUNDUP
Active ingredient: GLYPHOSATE 41%
Type: HERBICIDE, (Systemic)
Other ingredients: 59% includes polyethoxethyleneamine (POEA) and isopropylamine (amount undisclosed); identity of remaining ingredients withheld by manufacture as trade secrets.
Mode of Action: Inhibits enzymatic activity necessary for aromatic amino acid biosynthesis, a process specific to plants. Other enzyme systems in plants and animals not specific to this biosynthetic pathway are affected by glyphosate. (Heitanen et. al. 1983)

http://www.dontspraycalifornia.org/roundup-cats.html

[Humanist_Activist]

18. Which is about as toxic as table salt, do you want to dig yourself in any further? n/t

[womanofthehills]

20. Not according to Scientific American - it's DEADLY TO HUMAN CELLS

Weed-Whacking Herbicide Proves DEADLY to HUMAN CELLS
Used in gardens, farms, and parks around the world, the weed killer Roundup contains an ingredient that can suffocate human cells in a laboratory, researchers say

One specific inert ingredient, polyethoxylated tallowamine, or POEA, was MORE DEADLY to human embryonic, placental and umbilical cord cells than the herbicide itself – a finding the researchers call “astonishing.”


“This clearly confirms that the [inert ingredients] in Roundup formulations are not inert,” wrote the study authors from France’s University of Caen. “Moreover, the proprietary mixtures available on the market could cause cell damage and even death [at the] residual levels” found on Roundup-treated crops, such as soybeans, alfalfa and corn, or lawns and gardens.

The research team suspects that Roundup might cause pregnancy problems by interfering with hormone production, possibly leading to abnormal fetal development, low birth weights or miscarriages.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/weed-whacking-herbicide-p/

[Humanist_Activist]

23. Its a surfactant, of course its deadly to human cells, so is Dawn and a lot of other soaps....

hence why you aren't supposed to ingest them in massive quantities.

[HuckleB]

25. You know we have to go there.

https://xkcd.com/1217/

[womanofthehills]

26. Roundup was found in this experiment to be 125 TIMES MORE TOXIC than glyphosate

Major Pesticides Are More Toxic to Human Cells Than Their Declared Active Principles

It is commonly believed that Roundup is among the safest pesticides. This idea is spread by manufacturers, mostly in the reviews they promote [39, 40], which are often cited in toxicological evaluations of glyphosate-based herbicides. However, Roundup was found in this experiment to be 125 times more toxic than glyphosate. Moreover, despite its reputation, ROUNDUP WAS BY FAR THE MOST TOXIC AMONG THE HERBICIDES and insecticides tested. This inconsistency between scientific fact and industrial claim may be attributed to huge economic interests, which have been found to falsify health risk assessments and delay health policy decisions .

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3955666/

[Humanist_Activist]

27. Again with Seralini, do you have a non-biased source? n/t

[proverbialwisdom]

51. Follow the hyperlinks deep into the weeds here (The Guardian, NRDC) and maybe reconsider.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/political-science/2015/may/13/chemical-reactions-glyphosate-and-the-politics-of-chemical-safety
https://www.nrdc.org/experts/jennifer-sass/glyphosate-iarc-got-it-right-efsa-got-it-monsanto

Future generations are counting on us to get this right: http://press.endocrine.org/doi/10.1210/jc.2014-4324

[Major Nikon]

57. I'll take that as a no

Kinda funny how you aren't still trying to convince everyone that vaccines cause autism, eh?

[proverbialwisdom]

88. Do you purposely mischaracterize the information I post or simply fail to review the links? (nt)

[Major Nikon]

92. Neither

I'm probably the only one that actually bothers to review the shit you through against the wall, so you really should appreciate me more.

Just sayin'

[villager]

102. Why does Scientific American hate science!?

[womanofthehills]

19. POEA makes Roundup much more toxic

Last edited Sun Jun 5, 2016, 05:50 PM - Edit history (1)

Monsanto’s “Secret Formula”: Dangerous Chemicals in Glyphosate Herbicide Slip Past EU Regulators Due to “Data Confidentiality”

Dangers of Just One Surfactant - Polyethoxylated Tallow Amine

One surfactant in particular is drawing heavy criticism. POEA (polyethoxylated tallow amine) is likely very toxic to humans, animals and the environment. German authorities have taken their own protective action against this chemical, but the EU has failed to take any action whatsoever.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/monsantos-secret-formula-dangerous-chemicals-in-glyphosate-herbicide-slip-pass-eu-regulators-due-to-data-confidentiality/5403982

[Major Nikon]

60. Kinda funny how you didn't list the source

[kentauros]

52. You need to see this!

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[Humanist_Activist]

56. Oh for fuck's sake, what the fucking fuck is up with that fucking shit?

Fucking lol.

Oh, and to anyone who wants to alert on this post, what the fuckety fuck is your fucking problem?

[kentauros]

58. Even though it's completely, and utterly, off-topic,

and that I know the alerter is likely reading this, they need to see the following:

fuck (v.)
until recently a difficult word to trace, in part because it was taboo to the editors of the original OED when the "F" volume was compiled, 1893-97. Written form only attested from early 16c. OED 2nd edition cites 1503, in the form fukkit; earliest appearance of current spelling is 1535 -- "Bischops ... may fuck thair fill and be vnmaryit" (Sir David Lyndesay, "Ane Satyre of the Thrie Estaits"), but presumably it is a much more ancient word than that, simply one that wasn't written in the kind of texts that have survived from O.E. and M.E. Buck cites proper name John le Fucker from 1278. The word apparently is hinted at in a scurrilous 15c. poem, titled "Flen flyys," written in bastard Latin and M.E. The relevant line reads:

Non sunt in celi
quia fuccant uuiuys of heli

"They (the monks) are not in heaven because they fuck the wives of (the town of) Ely." Fuccant is pseudo-Latin, and in the original it is written in cipher. The earliest examples of the word otherwise are from Scottish, which suggests a Scandinavian origin, perhaps from a word akin to Norwegian dialectal fukka "copulate," or Swedish dialectal focka "copulate, strike, push," and fock "penis." Another theory traces it to M.E. fyke, fike "move restlessly, fidget," which also meant "dally, flirt," and probably is from a general North Sea Germanic word; cf. M.Du. fokken, Ger. ficken "fuck," earlier "make quick movements to and fro, flick," still earlier "itch, scratch;" the vulgar sense attested from 16c. This would parallel in sense the usual M.E. slang term for "have sexual intercourse," swive, from O.E. swifan "to move lightly over, sweep" (see swivel). But OED remarks these "cannot be shown to be related" to the English word. Chronology and phonology rule out Shipley's attempt to derive it from M.E. firk "to press hard, beat."

Germanic words of similar form (f + vowel + consonant) and meaning 'copulate' are numerous. One of them is G. ficken. They often have additional senses, especially 'cheat,' but their basic meaning is 'move back and forth.' ... Most probably, fuck is a borrowing from Low German and has no cognates outside Germanic. (Liberman)

French foutre and Italian fottere look like the English word but are unrelated, derived rather from L. futuere, which is perhaps from PIE base *bhau(t)- "knock, strike off," extended via a figurative use "from the sexual application of violent action" (Shipley; cf. the sexual slang use of bang, etc.). Popular and Internet derivations from acronyms (and the "pluck yew" fable) are merely ingenious trifling. The O.E. word was hæman, from ham "dwelling, home," with a sense of "take home, co-habit." Fuck was outlawed in print in England (by the Obscene Publications Act, 1857) and the U.S. (by the Comstock Act, 1873). As a noun, it dates from 1670s. The word may have been shunned in print, but it continued in conversation, especially among soldiers during WWI.

It became so common that an effective way for the soldier to express this emotion was to omit this word. Thus if a sergeant said, 'Get your ----ing rifles!' it was understood as a matter of routine. But if he said 'Get your rifles!' there was an immediate implication of urgency and danger. (John Brophy, "Songs and Slang of the British Soldier: 1914-1918," pub. 1930)

The legal barriers broke down in the 20th century, with the "Ulysses" decision (U.S., 1933) and "Lady Chatterley's Lover" (U.S., 1959; U.K., 1960). Johnson excluded the word, and fuck wasn't in a single English language dictionary from 1795 to 1965. "The Penguin Dictionary" broke the taboo in the latter year. Houghton Mifflin followed, in 1969, with "The American Heritage Dictionary," but it also published a "Clean Green" edition without the word, to assure itself access to the lucrative public high school market.

The abbreviation F (or eff) probably began as euphemistic, but by 1943 it was being used as a cuss word, too. In 1948, the publishers of "The Naked and the Dead" persuaded Norman Mailer to use the euphemism fug instead. When Mailer later was introduced to Dorothy Parker, she greeted him with, "So you're the man who can't spell 'fuck' " (The quip sometimes is attributed to Tallulah Bankhead). Hemingway used muck in "For whom the Bell Tolls" (1940). The major breakthrough in publication was James Jones' "From Here to Eternity" (1950), with 50 fucks (down from 258 in the original manuscript). Egyptian legal agreements from the 23rd Dynasty (749-21 B.C.E.) frequently include the phrase, "If you do not obey this decree, may a donkey copulate with you!" (Reinhold Aman, "Maledicta," Summer 1977). Fuck-all "nothing" first recorded 1960.

Verbal phrase fuck up "to ruin, spoil, destroy" first attested c.1916. A widespread group of Slavic words (cf. Pol. pierdoli?) can mean both "fornicate" and "make a mistake." Fuck off attested from 1929; as a command to depart, by 1944. Flying fuck originally meant "have sex on horseback" and is first attested c.1800 in broadside ballad "New Feats of Horsemanship." For the unkillable urban legend that this word is an acronym of some sort (a fiction traceable on the Internet to 1995 but probably predating that) see here, and also here. Related: Fucked; fucking. Agent noun fucker attested from 1590s in literal sense; by 1893 as a term of abuse (or admiration).

DUCK F-CK-R. The man who has the care of the poultry on board a ſhip of war. ("Classical Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue," 1796)

[Major Nikon]

54. Same batshit crazy source claims Bundy is right

[womanofthehills]

8. It's getting bad when Taiwan sends the US back it's Quaker Oats - glyphosate levels too high

Obviously not too high for Americans - esp. some of the ones on DU - t


http://ecowatch.com/2016/05/27/taiwan-quaker-oats-glyphosate/

[womanofthehills]

12. Glyphosate also in eggs (even organic) bagels, potaotes, non GMO soy creamer

Glyphosate Found in Popular Breakfast Foods




http://ecowatch.com/2016/04/19/glyphosate-breakfast-foods/

[Humanist_Activist]

15. And?

[womanofthehills]

21. Obviously you have no problem with the food supply being contamined with Roundup

I actually prefer not to eat it but it seems like that is now impossible.

[Humanist_Activist]

24. I don't, I eat the same foods with the same contamination you do, the difference is that I know...

that the levels of exposure are so low as to be nearly non-existent, and more importantly, not clinically significant. The dose makes the poison, and frankly there are chemicals I ingest daily that are a hell of a lot more toxic than glyphosate, such as caffeine.

[womanofthehills]

28. How can you possibly know the levels when

the FDA does not test for them? Taiwan tests for levels but NOT THE USA. The FDA just bought 5 mil dollars worth of equipment to begin testing but they are only going to test a handful - soy, wheat, eggs, a few veggies.

[Humanist_Activist]

30. I could drink the concentrate, and outside of the surfactants reacting badly with my stomach...

, the resultant dehydration and headache afterwards, I would survive quite handily. Versus a couple of teaspoons of pure caffeine would stop my heart dead. So yes I can safely say that the concentrations found in the environment aren't biologically significant for human exposure.

[womanofthehills]

43. People who actually drank Roundup - and from (Republican) Forbes

A 1991 paper reported on 93 cases of exposure to RoundUp in China. Eighty of the 93 patients intentionally ingested RoundUp at its 41% concentration (home gardeners use a much weaker 1% concentration). Only seven of them died. But 66% had damage to their gastrointestinal tract and 43% had sore throats.In the seven cases that were fatal, the average amount of weed killer ingested was 184 milliliters (about .7 cups) with the highest dose at about 500 mL, or about 2 cups. A 2004 toxicology review says that damage usually occurs when drinking more than 85 mL – just a third of a cup. This 62-year-old man was saved using hemodialysis after drinking a whole bottle of RoundUp, and this 37-year-old died after drinking 500 mL.So again, don’t drink a quart of RoundUp, and I’m glad Moore (who is not clearly identified in the clip) didn’t. But this has absolutely nothing to do with the argument Moore and the French journalist were having: whether or not RoundUp causes cancer. A World Health Organization panel says it “probably” does, in sufficient doses; human data link it to lymphoma and lung cancer. Monsanto has angrily taken issue with this statement.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/2015/03/27/no-its-not-safe-to-drink-weed-killer-on-camera-but-who-cares/#6ffa06a0718e

[Major Nikon]

61. 41% concentration

Vinegar can kill you with doses between 20-40ml.
http://apjmt.mums.ac.ir/article_19_8.html

[proverbialwisdom]

22. Really?

For the public:

http://prhe.ucsf.edu/prhe/pdfs/foodmatters_readable.pdf
http://prhe.ucsf.edu/prhe/pdfs/toxicmatters_readable.pdf
http://prhe.ucsf.edu/prhe/pdfs/pesticidesmatter_readable.pdf

For clinicians:

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0098771
http://prhe.ucsf.edu/prhe/clinical_resources.html
http://prhe.ucsf.edu/prhe/clinical_practice.html

http://gmwatch.org/news/latest-news/16971-ucsf-presentation-reveals-glyphosate-contamination-in-people-across-america

UCSF presentation reveals glyphosate contamination in people across America
Published: 25 May 2016

More: http://www.greenpeace.org/eu-unit/Global/eu-unit/reports-briefings/2016/BR%20glyphosate%20approval%20-%20FINAL%20%2003032016.pdf

Related: http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/mar/06/health-costs-hormone-disrupting-chemicals-150bn-a-year-europe-says-study

[Major Nikon]

62. Just looks like your usual MO of throwing a lot off shit against the wall to see what sticks

5 of your first 6 links are all from the same source, none of which articulate any risk associated with if they even mention glyphosate at all. The remaining link doesn't even mention glyphosate, let alone articulate any risk.

The 7th link isn't even worth clicking on. It defends Seralini pseudoscience, which isn't surprising since one of the managing editors of GMWatch is also a founding editor of GMOSeralini.

The 8th link is also obviously biased and even then doesn't articulate any risk associated with glyphosate and simply repeats all the usual talking points.

Your 9th link references a study that doesn't even mention glyphosate and is dubious at best.

So yeah, really.

[proverbialwisdom]

69. ORGANIC, ORGANIC, ORGANIC...University of California San Francisco...implicitly opposes glyphosate.

So, yeah. TEAM ORGANIC!

[Major Nikon]

70. Actually they have almost nothing to say on the subject

A search of the term on their website reveals only one white paper, and the only statement found inside that which says anything negative about glyphosate comes from a Seralini Petri dish "study" contradicted by numerous other far more relevant in vivo studies done by non-cranks.
http://prhe.ucsf.edu/prhe/pdfs/pesticidesmatter_whitepaper.pdf

Looks like it's time for you to throw a lot more shit against the wall, cuz none from the last round is sticking.

[proverbialwisdom]

73. Good, Better... "Best -> Eat locally grown, organic food" (translates as nonGMO, glyphosate free).

http://prhe.ucsf.edu/prhe/pdfs/foodmatters_readable.pdf

[Major Nikon]

74. You can make whatever strawmen you like

Here's how the term is actually translated by the actual entity that manages the National Organic Program, namely the USDA Agriculture Marketing Service

Our regulations do not address food safety or nutrition.

https://www.ams.usda.gov/about-ams/programs-offices/national-organic-program

[proverbialwisdom]

71. FYI, CDC and Science Daily both use the word "toxic" plus the preferred "environmental exposure."

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/10/151001100058.htm

Exposure to toxic chemicals threatening human reproduction and health

Date: October 1, 2015
Source: University of California, San Francisco (UCSF)

Summary: Dramatic increases in exposure to toxic chemicals in the last four decades are threatening human reproduction and health, according to experts. Exposure to toxic environmental chemicals is linked to millions of deaths and costs billions of dollars every year, according to the authors.

<>

FIGO proposes that physicians, midwives, and other reproductive health professionals advocate for policies to prevent exposure to toxic environmental chemicals; work to ensure a healthy food system for all; make environmental health part of health care; and champion environmental justice.

Journal Reference:

http://www.ijgo.org/article/S0020-7292%2815%2900590-1/abstract
Linda C. Giudice et al. International Federation of Gynecology and Obstetrics opinion on reproductive health impacts of exposure to toxic environmental chemicals. International Journal of Gynecology and Obstetrics, September 2015 DOI: 10.1016/j.ijgo.2015.09.002

http://www.cdc.gov/features/pehsu/
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/

re: https://twitter.com/neiltyson/status/203188108697677824

[Major Nikon]

72. Water is a toxic chemical

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication

[HuckleB]

13. You made the Google University Honor Roll!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027878193

Way to go!

Of course, if you really want to do the right thing, you'll acknowledge that Samsel and Seneff have been debunked, you made a mistake, and you'll acknowledge the ludicrous nature of this OP.
http://www.crediblehulk.org/index.php/2015/06/02/about-those-more-caustic-herbicides-that-glyphosate-helped-replace-by-credible-hulk/

[libodem]

16. We were mislead

The active ingredients were supposed to go inert when it hit dirt. It was even recommend that you spray off the leaves with water to get the fust off to make it work better.

Does not sound like the live action death particulates, actually, detox in the dirt like they said? Amirite?


Effing bad news.

Good bye gut flora.

[Humanist_Activist]

29. You would have to consume a lot of pure glyphosate for it to affect your gut flora, not the 3...

parts per million that you may be exposed to from consumption of food.

[womanofthehills]

35. 3 or 40 parts per million in every bite you take

Regulation raises glyphosate levels in oilseed crops, which include sesame, flax, and soybean, from 20 parts per million (ppm), to 40 ppm. It also raises the allowable glyphosate contamination level for sweet potatoes and carrots from 0.2 ppm to 3 ppm for sweet potatoes and 5ppm for carrots, that’s 15 and 25 times the previous levels.
Read more at http://www.commdiginews.com/health-science/are-epa-approved-levels-of-glyphosate-residue-in-our-foods-too-high-13855/#cwojvRZ40o5KA4fk.99

[Humanist_Activist]

36. Those are all levels far too low to be of clinical significance. n/t

[womanofthehills]

44. No one really knows the levels yet?

[womanofthehills]

33. We were really mislead - No USDA tests for glyphosate

It is a scandal that USDA tests for hundreds of pesticide residues BUT NOT GLYPHOSATE, which is among the most widely used chemicals on our food crops,” Gary Ruskin, co-director of U.S. Right to Know, a nonprofit consumer group, said. “Consumers want to know how much glyphosate is in our food. Why won’t the USDA tell us? “

In the latest annual Pesticide Data Program report—issued Jan. 11—once again, glyphosate data IS ABSENT. Testing was done to look for residues of more than 400 different herbicides, insecticides and other pesticides on food products. But no tests reported for glyphosate.

http://ecowatch.com/2016/01/14/food-residue-monsanto-glyphosate/

USDA said testing equipment was too expensive!

[Major Nikon]

68. Earlier you said it was the FDA

You really should work harder on getting your story straight.

https://www.ams.usda.gov/sites/default/files/media/PDP%202014%20Annual%20Summary%20Consumers.pdf

[HuckleB]

41. Whoops.

https://skeptoid.com/blog/2013/05/04/roundup-and-gut-bacteria/

[jomin41]

31. I, for one, appreciate the effort to

inform us of what is in our food, air, water, soil and bodies. First of all, it's important to know, even if the levels are low, what it is and what it may do. It gives us a baseline to compare to in the future. Secondly, I think it's important to know what total exposure we have experienced. Just because we are swimming in a toxic soup doesn't mean we shouldn't try to know and understand the effects, good, bad, or indifferent, on our health of each component of that soup. Regardless of the veracity of this particular O.P.,It's a good thing to have it discussed (and cussed lol).

[Humanist_Activist]

34. There's a difference between providing information and scaremongering.

That's the problem, for example, claiming glyphosate is the source for everything from autism, concussions and cancer, its getting ridiculous. There are legitimate problems with modern agriculture that we should be tackling, everything from maintaining topsoil to being concerned about glyphosate resistant weeds, etc. but its buried under bullshit from the anti-science, conspiracy theory crowd.

[womanofthehills]

37. It's the most used herbicide in the whole world & it is scary

[Humanist_Activist]

38. You illustrate my point perfectly, thank you. n/t

[Major Nikon]

87. Roundup caused grandpa to get the piles!

Roundup causes autism!


Did Ruth Bader Ginsburg work for Monsanto? Is it just a coincidence she ruled for Monsanto every time?

How about Elena Kagan? She wrote the last unanimous opinion for the court.

Holy Shit! The conspiracy is deeper than anyone could have ever imagined!

[ReRe]

32. K&R

Where there's smoke, there's fire. Doesn't matter where it emits from. Thanks for the articles.

[HuckleB]

40. You might want a bit more information.

And sometimes the smoke is just arson.

Samsel and Seneff have been debunked, and big time.
https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/glyphosate-the-new-bogeyman/

You realize these two actually tried to blame autism on glyphosate and concussions on GMOs?



Take care.

[womanofthehills]

76. Monsanto & Dow are members of www.wafriend.org

Washington FRiends of Farms and Forrests has 200 members including Monsanto & Dow and run by Heather Handson . Another great link HuckleB.

Heather Handson connected to Monsanto

We think labeling is really intended to frighten people away from a technology,” said Healther Hansen of Washington Friends of Farms and Forests. “It’s implying that there is something wrong with the food and we think that’s misleading to the consumer,” Komo News writes9. Who is Heather Hansen? She’s a contract lobbyist from the William Ruckelshaus Center at WSU10. And, William Ruckelshaus11 was a board member for — you guessed it — Monsanto…

http://gmoinside.org/biotech-industry-ups-propaganda-efforts-with-undercover-ambassadors

Heather H. Hansen -ON LINKEDIN LISTS HERSELF AS THE GO TO LOBBYIST ON AGRICULTURAL ISSUES
Government Relations Consultan

connections
Send Heather H. InMail

https://www.linkedin.com/in/heather-h-hansen-5b432a4
Background
Summary

Results driven, strategic, professional advocate with expertise in the development and implementation of effective state legislative and regulatory policy. Issue management expertise includes agriculture, endangered species, environmental issues, natural resources, pesticide regulation, water quality and taxes. Well known and respected in Washington State. The “go to” lobbyist on agricultural issues. Also experienced in media relations and grassroots development.

[HuckleB]

79. Anti-GM0propaganda that has nothing to with the science.

It's all you offer. Why do you want to misinform others?

[womanofthehills]

98. POSTS OF CHARTS - written by Monsanto lobbyists

PRO- GMO propanda has only to do with rat science.

It's all you offer. Why do YOU want to misinform others?

[Major Nikon]

100. Are you seriously accusing anyone else of misinformation?

The bullshit you are propagating comes from Mercola and is complete nonsense (but I'm being redundant here).

It's not as if you haven't already been busted for this once already.

[HuckleB]

39. A little context.

[womanofthehills]

78. Monsanto and Dow are part of this "friends of farms & forests" joke!!

[HuckleB]

80. You posts are pointless.

[HuckleB]

42. This OP is a good example of When Media Uncritically Cover Pseudoscience

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/collideascape/2013/04/26/when-media-uncritically-cover-pseudoscience/#.V1IfejeMCRs

[womanofthehills]

46. OMG! You are posting articles by written by admitted Monsanto shills on DU

Did you forget you are on DU? I hope this is something Skinner addresses in the new rules.

[HuckleB]

49. Did you forget that honesty matters?

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You are making false claims.

You should be ashamed.

How many times do your conspiracy theories have to be debunked before you realize that you are on the wrong side of everything?

[HuckleB]

50. You realize that Skinner cares about science.

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He's not going to protect your CTs.

Your fear-mongerinG is going to take a big hit.

[womanofthehills]

77. I don't think he cares for "science" from Republican Monsanto shills

Everyone of your science links goes back to a big agriculture shill. Look at this last chart you posted about Washington Friends of Farms and Forests. The members are Monsanto & Dow and its run by Heather Handson - a former lobbyist for a Monsanto board member.

http://gmoinside.org/biotech-industry-ups-propaganda-efforts-with-undercover-ambassadors/

“We think labeling is really intended to frighten people away from a technology,” said Healther Hansen of Washington Friends of Farms and Forests. “It’s implying that there is something wrong with the food and we think that’s misleading to the consumer,” Komo News writes9. Who is Heather Hansen? She’s a contract lobbyist from the William Ruckelshaus Center at WSU10. And, William Ruckelshaus11 was a board member for — you guessed it — Monsanto…

[HuckleB]

81. The science on GMOs is overwhelmingly clear.

They are safe. Your industry propaganda does not change that.

[Major Nikon]

84. You're talking about someone who is a shill for Big-Crazy®

At least I would hope someone who is parroting out right wing Mercola's delusional fantasies is getting paid.

[HuckleB]

85. In this case, it's starting to seem plausible.

[womanofthehills]

99. If they are safe why do all these countries not want them? Answer Please!!

 TWENTY-SIX COUNTRIES BAN GMOs—WHY WON’T THE US?
The case against GMOs has strengthened steadily over the last few years, even as the industry has expanded all over the world.



A few years ago, there were sixteen countries that had total or partial bans on GMOs. Now there are at least twenty-six, including Switzerland, Australia, Austria, China, India, France, Germany, Hungary, Luxembourg, Greece, Bulgaria, Poland, Italy, Mexico and Russia. Significant restrictions on GMOs exist in about sixty other countries.

Restraints on trade in GMOs based on phyto-sanitary grounds, which are allowed under the World Trade Organization, have increased. Already, American rice farmers face strict limitations on their exports to the European Union, Japan, South Korea and the Philippines, and are banned altogether from Russia and Bulgaria because unapproved genetically engineered rice “escaped” during open-field trials on GMO rice. Certain Thai exports—particularly canned fruit salads containing papaya to Germany, and sardines in soy oil to Greece and the Netherlands—were recently banned due to threat of contamination by GMOs.

http://www.thenation.com/article/twenty-six-countries-ban-gmos-why-wont-us/

[Major Nikon]

103. Every EU country imports GMO

Somewhere around 30 million tons, which makes them one of the worlds largest consumers of GMO.

Why does the EU love GMO if it isn't safe?

[HuckleB]

104. They all eat them, and not one can justify a thing with science.

[Major Nikon]

82. Where do you even come up with shit this crazy? Oh, right wing Mercola!

Everyone of your science pseudoscience links goes back to batshit crazy, and this one is particularly far out into fantasy land.

So a person who does contract work for a University center that happens to be named for the guy that donated the money to establish it but has exactly zero presence, who also was a board member to Monsanto at one time.

Yep, Mercola sure nailed that one!

What is actually telling about this is yet again you are parroting out another Woo master, this time a far right wing one, but I'm sure you just like him for his homeopathy delusions, right? Or maybe the anti-vax delusions?

[Major Nikon]

64. You realize the OP is channeling Alex Fucking Jones?

[HuckleB]

45. Leaky Brains And Anti-Science GMO Demonization Is Bizarre And Harmful

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/collideascape/2013/05/14/leaky-brains-and-gmos/#.V1IgQzeMCRs

[womanofthehills]

47. and you post a 2nd article by Monsanto admitted shill Keith Kloor

[HuckleB]

48. And you make a baseless claim, as you always do.

Can you debunk anything in that piece with a consensus of peer-reviewed science?

[Major Nikon]

67. Ironically, Keith Kloor was writing about the deranged wing of the anti-GMO movement

It's almost as if you're trying to prove his concept.

Kinda funny how you post a screen cap of his article without posting the actual article itself.
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/collideascape/2013/06/14/in-bed-with-the-gmo-devil/#.V1Nku-RGSjN

[Dont call me Shirley]

66. fucking monsanto isnt just killing weeds, its killing the entire ecosystem....

Corporate death penalty for monsanto and all other earth killing companies!

[Archae]

83. Monsanto! Ooogy boogy!

Got any more strawmen to knock down?

[Dont call me Shirley]

105. American version of IGFarben.

[Archae]

106. Yeah comapnies that no longer have the bastards in charge.

Both at Farben and Monsanto the guys who pushed stuff like Zyklon and Agent Orange are long retired or dead.

But just keep up the "logic," blame Bayer for inventing heroin, over a CENTURY ago.

Meanwhile Monsanto is far more open and honest that any of the anti-GMO hysterics.
Just ask Bill Nye the Science Guy.

[Dont call me Shirley]

107. Meet the new boss, he's the same as the old boss. ZyklonB-3rd generation.

[Archae]

108. Bull...shit.

[Dont call me Shirley]

109. History always repeats itself, especially the doings of the economic royalists.

[Scientific]

86. Monsanto is a real corporation doing real harm, not a strawman at all

Any impartial person weighing the consequences of that corporation's deeds in the world has to see the pattern: a steady grasping of private profit at public expense -- including the expense of the natural world and the health of people.

[Orrex]

90. I have it on good authority...

that glyphosate is chiefly responsible for the cataclysmic breakup of Pangaea and all of the widespread disaster that resulted.

[deaniac21]

91. Glyphosate

turned me into a newt.

[Scientific]

95. Remarkable how dedicated some people are to defending a chemical and it's corporations

Why would the same people post over and over and over again
to argue on behalf of a chemical and it's corporate parent?

Such devotion reeks of a spectacularly strange kind of love.

[Bonx]

96. Is your username supposed to be ironic ?

[Major Nikon]

97. You mean there's nothing scientific about silly memes and abstract condemnation?

[EvolveOrConvolve]

101. Glyphosate gave me a boner that lasted for longer than 4 hours

Should I call my naturopath?