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SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 06:12 PM Jun 2016

Yip Harburg. You should know him.

On another thread, my Magic 8-Ball of a brain threw up a number from _Finian's Rainbow_, which got me thinking about Yip in general.

Not just _Wizard of Oz_.

Edgar Yipsel "Yip" Harburg (born Isidore Hochberg, Yiddish: איסידור הוכברג?; April 8, 1896 – March 5, 1981) was an American popular song lyricist who worked with many well-known composers. He wrote the lyrics to the standards "Brother, Can You Spare a Dime?," "April in Paris," and "It's Only a Paper Moon," as well as all of the songs in The Wizard of Oz, including "Over the Rainbow." He was known for the social commentary of his lyrics, as well as his liberal sensibilities. He championed racial and gender equality and union politics. He also was an ardent critic of religion.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yip_Harburg

http://yipharburg.com/

https://ffrf.org/news/day/famous-freethinkers-secular-stars/spotlight/item/14286-e-y-yip-harburg

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Yip Harburg. You should know him. (Original Post) SusanCalvin Jun 2016 OP
There! KamaAina Jun 2016 #1
Woot! Thanks! SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #2
He was blacklisted for years Warpy Jun 2016 #3
Dunno about "greener pastures." SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #4
Greener than sitting in Hollywood and waiting for the phone to ring. Warpy Jun 2016 #5
Yep, it's the emotion you remember. SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #7
Speaking of _How to Succeed_, Ruth Kobart. SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #6
Brother, Can You Spare a Dime? has amazing lyrics (as well as an engaging melody). valerief Jun 2016 #8
All Yip's stuff was great. SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #9
"It's Only a Paper Moon," "Down With Love," "Happiness is a Thing Called Joe," valerief Jun 2016 #10
Wen he wrote April in Paris he was criticized kskiska Jun 2016 #11
Ha! Great answer. nt valerief Jun 2016 #12

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
3. He was blacklisted for years
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 06:27 PM
Jun 2016

and one of the things that convinced me that the whole point of the Red Scare was to eliminate all the real talent in Hollywood so that a bunch of no talent hacks like Reagan would have a chance. Movies certainly started to stink in the late 1940s and have never recovered completely, the good screenwriters and lyricists having departed for greener pastures elsewhere.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
4. Dunno about "greener pastures."
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 06:37 PM
Jun 2016

Did many find work other than under pseudonyms?

Thanks for bringing it up - I had not realized that Ring Lardner, another of my favs, was one of the "Hollywood 10."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_Lardner_Jr.

He worked on a film called _Brotherhood of Man_? Magic 8-Ball, do your stuff!

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Warpy

(111,245 posts)
5. Greener than sitting in Hollywood and waiting for the phone to ring.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 06:48 PM
Jun 2016

Actors like Zero Mostel left for New York, where they weren't as fussy about old commies. I read that a few of the lesser writers turned to fiction. Trumbo is the main one who continued to write and be hired under an alias until Kirk Douglas put his foot down and said no picture unless he got full credit for "Spartacus," thus pretty much ending the blacklisting of the others, also.

I was a little kid during the whole thing but my parents were the first on the block with a TV so they could watch the hearings and maybe have a little advance notice of the knock on the door. The fear back then was pervasive, all it took was some idiot with a grudge making a phone call and your life could be ruined by cops and FBI showing up all over the place, alienating your friends and getting you fired at the job. I don't remember the speeches, I do remember the fear. To this day, I have a block against signing anything political.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
10. "It's Only a Paper Moon," "Down With Love," "Happiness is a Thing Called Joe,"
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:24 AM
Jun 2016

"Old Devil Moon," all incredible songs

For folks who've never heard them, I have You Tube links below.

It's Only a Paper Moon (Frank sings with a Nelson Riddle [another genius!] arrangement)



Down With Love (Buble and Palmer)


Happiness is a Thing Called Joe (Judy!)


Old Devil Moon (more Frank and Nelson, too)


kskiska

(27,045 posts)
11. Wen he wrote April in Paris he was criticized
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:20 AM
Jun 2016

because he'd never been to Paris. When asked about it he said, "I wrote Over the Rainbow, too, and I'd never been there, either."

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