Oregon Militant Leaders Unhappy With Jail Rules, Want Facebook

[47of74]

Facepalm.

Ammon and Ryan Bundy, leaders of an armed occupation in Oregon earlier this year, are unhappy with the rules in their jail.

The brothers have been in custody since their arrest in January. But at Multnomah County Detention Center, they’ve got demands: Ryan Bundy wants to see his brother. He feels his Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms has been violated. He doesn’t want people rifling through his stuff. Both have said they want access to the internet, including Facebook and email, in order to prepare their defense. They want chairs in their cells so they don’t have to kneel to write, a better computer, a cordless printer, a scanner, external hard drives and Microsoft Movie Editor. They also want to strategize with the other occupiers involved in the armed takeover of a federal wildlife refuge near Burns, Oregon, for which they face federal conspiracy and other charges.

“If they are going to detain us as innocent men, then they are obligated to afford us the rights to defend ourselves and emotionally connect to our families,” Ammon Bundy told The Huffington Post in an email sent by one of his attorneys, Mike Arnold.

Bundy also called jail “a job programs for more government employees rather than a system that brings justice and fair due process.”

You gotta be fucking kidding me. Facebook? What the fuck do you need Microsoft Movie Editor for while you're in the slammer?

[Rex]

1. Spoiled rotten, privileged children facing reality for the first time in their sad lives.

Pathetic.

[Jester Messiah]

2. Boy, ain't that just a shame?

My heart just bleeds for those hillbilly assholes.

[jmowreader]

3. In most cases I would say "yeah, go ahead, you deserve a fair trial"

The Bundys are an exception. They have a track record of using the Internet to rally other sovereign citizens to their aid. Given this, and that sovereign citizens have their own "language" which only they understand, it is of the utmost importance the Bundys NOT be allowed access to Facebook. You freakin' know what would happen next: Every sovereign citizen nutball between Portland and the South Dakota state line would converge on the Multnomah County Jail some Sunday morning, each equipped with an armful of guns, demanding the Bundys be turned over to them.

[47of74]

16. Yeah SPLC did a video about Soverigns a few years ago

[Cal Carpenter]

17. Wow that was fascinating

and I didn't know SPLC made videos targeted to educate law enforcement. They do excellent research and reporting, case studies, etc. I hope the cops are watching these. Good stuff. Good for them.

[47of74]

22. Of course some cops are part of the problem.

There are some cops in this country that have already made it clear that they'd throw in with these nuts in a heartbeat if they thought for one moment they could get away with it.

Back in 2012 where I lived one of those sovereign citizen guys ran for sheriff as a Republican where I lived. This guy was way out there, he wasn't even a certified police officer in Iowa. Think to the right of Joe Arpaio. He was going around saying that he was "pro gun" and would not even follow the orders of the county supervisors if they gave him an order that conflicted with his own personal interpretation of the Constitution, especially in regards the Second Amendment. He was rather handily defeated in the general - there were people who voted straight Republican except for the Sheriff's office. They voted for the incumbent Democrat for Sheriff.

[kentauros]

21. Thanks for posting that!

The sovereigns aren't just nutty, but scary-nutty

I'm glad to see the federal government has analyzed them so thoroughly. Should be easier to spot them and prevent more of what appears to be assassinations of law enforcement (The 'in memoriam' at the end had quite a few where it was obvious they wanted no witnesses as two officers were killed at a time.)

[47of74]

26. Yeah the SPLC has done a bit of leg work here

SPLC found some of the code words and phrases these clowns like to bandy about;

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2010/sovereigns-dictionary-peculiar

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2010/sovereigns-tips-law-enforcement

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2010/sovereigns-leaders-movement

[kentauros]

27. After reading just the definitions,

I feel that any attempt at educating them would be met with accusations of "re-education" and "FEMA Internment Camps" rhetoric. Honestly, in their case, it truly is an example of "You can't fix stupid!"

This one is incredibly head-shaking dumb:
"secret Treasury Direct Account that the government funded at their birth."

If they're so distrustful of the government, how can they then believe that such a thing exists?

Now, I do wonder how they'd react to someone doing the one-fisted salute and stating "Hail Hydra!"

[Aristus]

4. Jesus, those 'rugged individualist' patriots sure are a bunch

of limp-dick whiners, aren't they?

[gratuitous]

6. Who knew?

Sure, they've been spoiling for their end-of-the-world big apocalyptic fight, but jeepers! Being in jail sucks! Nobody ever said they'd be the cannon fodder for the first round of the final battle. They were supposed to be sitting there next to Adam/God/Deity watching the wicked get what's coming to them while they laughed about all the judgment being handed out. Here they are sitting in a jail cell, and nobody gives a flying fart about their predicament.

Bummer, dudes. That savior is sure taking his sweet time, isn't he? That whole tribulation thing was supposed to happen to other people, not you elect of the lord.

[nilram]

7. I think these boys are "unclear on the concept."

You in Jail, boys, in JA-IL.

[Iggo]

13. ^^^ This right the fuck here.

Man up, fuckers.

[struggle4progress]

8. "And we're unconstitutionally deprived of our right to snacks!"

[Mendocino]

9. "We want weed, french coffee creamer

and dildoes...lotsa dildoes and we want them NOW"

[sinkingfeeling]

10. I don't think colluding with fellow defendants on a

defense or alibi is allowed by law.

[Wounded Bear]

12. Especially on a conspiracy charge...

Hey! No fair! We need to get together to defend our conspiracy! Makes sense to me.

And to top it off, I suppose they want all that shit at tax payers expense, too.

[meow2u3]

11. Allow me to find the tiniest violin I can find

so I can play a sad tune for their pathetic little asses!

[Mendocino]

15. {o}=+

Like this one^

[summerschild]

14. as the old saying goes:

"Oregon Militant Leaders Unhappy With Jail Rules, Want Facebook"

and people in hell want ice water.

[L. Coyote]

18. Please don't insult my great state by referring to those #FreeRangeNuts as Oregon anything except

Oregon invaders. They are from Nevada, Idaho, Arizona, Utah, not from Oregon.

[Initech]

19. Do they not know what prison is?

[Takket]

20. access to the internet is a "no"

if they get on the internet they will use it to coordinate more terrorist activities.

that being said i'm actually inclined to give them any of the other stuff they want for writing and making movies, because the stream of nonsense and lunacy sure to spew forth from their brains is sure to be good for a laugh.

[47of74]

23. Still even with movies...

...if they got uploaded to the internet I'd be concerned about these loons putting code words and phrases in the movies to get their followers to do something stupid.

[Monk06]

24. It was all their loose talk on videos posted on their Face Book pages that put them behind bars lol

The FBI couldn't believe how lucky they were They never had to leave their computers to build this case

Shows their lawyer is a dimwit if he isn't screaming at them to STFU

[47of74]

25. Many criminals have been caught because they advertised how stupid they were on social media.