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kentuck

(111,078 posts)
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 04:20 PM Jun 2016

Your opinion of Donald Trump?

So we will know where to classify you on the Honest Democrat scale?


45 votes, 0 passes | Time left: Unlimited
He's not a billionaire for nothing.
0 (0%)
We should appreciate how he made his fortune and he should be commended for that.
0 (0%)
He's a rich kid who's gotten away with everything all his life.
4 (9%)
He's a racist, greedy bastard.
3 (7%)
He's an arrogant, demagogic psychopath.
26 (58%)
He's lower than whale shit and that is at the bottom of the ocean.
3 (7%)
Other:
9 (20%)
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Your opinion of Donald Trump? (Original Post) kentuck Jun 2016 OP
He's a short fingered vulgarian. GoneOffShore Jun 2016 #1
Yes, this Warpy Jun 2016 #10
This Different Drummer Jun 2016 #41
Yes stage left Jun 2016 #15
He fits a few of them. 3,4,5, and 6 all fit him very well.... think Jun 2016 #2
My opinion of Trump is irrelevant, but so is Trump, ultimately. L. Coyote Jun 2016 #3
He is psychologically disordered by reason of narcissism. No Vested Interest Jun 2016 #4
Well struck! immoderate Jun 2016 #30
Terrific! Fantastic! Outstanding! OnyxCollie Jun 2016 #5
Sociopath Mendocino Jun 2016 #6
other - I do not know that much about him hfojvt Jun 2016 #7
Is there any circumstance where you could see yourself voting for Trump? kentuck Jun 2016 #8
of course not hfojvt Jun 2016 #14
One doesn't have to be on Trump's side OnyxCollie Jun 2016 #9
That is true. kentuck Jun 2016 #11
In 2012, I voted for Obama. OnyxCollie Jun 2016 #16
I posted much the same thing above Warpy Jun 2016 #12
you must have read my mind hfojvt Jun 2016 #13
Politicians change their positions all the time Fumesucker Jun 2016 #20
He's the best thing to happen to the Democratic party since Barry Goldwater. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2016 #17
Biggest asshole on the planet? Initech Jun 2016 #18
"I like Chinese people..." yuiyoshida Jun 2016 #19
Did you celebrate your 15,000th post? Dont call me Shirley Jun 2016 #22
oh crap! I forgot to even check... yuiyoshida Jun 2016 #40
I havent been on alot. Congratulations, yuiyoshida! Dont call me Shirley Jun 2016 #46
Extreme Narcissist with very low slf-esteem. Dont call me Shirley Jun 2016 #21
A far more gifted con man than most of us want to believe Fumesucker Jun 2016 #23
probably referencing Scott Adams blog (Dilbert) Angel Martin Jun 2016 #45
You forgot one... Rosco T. Jun 2016 #24
he is an extreme narcissist, not a psychopath Skittles Jun 2016 #25
Options 3, 4, 5, and 6. Though I think even they miss the low level of my opinion. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #26
Great poll, Kentuck. It was about time we had one specifically on the Donald. forest444 Jun 2016 #27
A dream come true if you wish to see impollision of the GOP beachbumbob Jun 2016 #28
A Reality TV star in a show directed by Bill Clinton Dems to Win Jun 2016 #29
A vulgar, inarticulate clown. Spider Jerusalem Jun 2016 #31
To quote Bill Maher, he's a whiny little bitch Beaverhausen Jun 2016 #32
He is a fascist nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #33
He's a living breathing meme created by the GOP. Solly Mack Jun 2016 #34
He's a skilled and shameless self promoter Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2016 #35
add mentally ill and I'll vote tandem5 Jun 2016 #36
There was a 2007 CNN interview, w/ Wolf Blitzer, in which Trump said that W was a total disaster. CobaltBlue Jun 2016 #37
I'm glad he exists. Shoulders of Giants Jun 2016 #38
He makes Gordon Gekko look like Mother Theresa. Aristus Jun 2016 #39
IMO, #6 is the most accurate. n/t Different Drummer Jun 2016 #42
He's going to tank. That's an expression known to tennis fans... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Jun 2016 #43
Immature, spoiled rich kid moondust Jun 2016 #44
I heard a Trump joke today. tavernier Jun 2016 #47

Warpy

(111,244 posts)
10. Yes, this
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 04:50 PM
Jun 2016

Also, remember in 1999 he said if he ever ran for President, he'd run as a Republican because Republicans were so stupid. He was absolutely right about that and the way he's played the press is masterful. He didn't have to spend a dime on advertising for a very long time.

Since his statements are all over the place, nobody knows just who or what he is, only that he's whipping up crowds of angry half wits to incite violence against everybody who isn't a rich WASP native born male.

Different Drummer

(7,613 posts)
41. This
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:40 PM
Jun 2016
Since his statements are all over the place, nobody knows just who or what he is, only that he's whipping up crowds of angry half wits to incite violence against everybody who isn't a rich WASP native born male.
 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
5. Terrific! Fantastic! Outstanding!
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 04:43 PM
Jun 2016

Oh, wait. Those are the opinions ascribed to me by some Hillary supporters on this board.

Personally, I think he's an asshole.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
7. other - I do not know that much about him
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 04:45 PM
Jun 2016

or care, really.

None of the answers really seem to fit.

Plus, I like to talk more about policy than about people. Trump may be a super nice and super talented guy, but what is he proposing to do as President?

I don't need to believe he is Satan incarnate in order to be strongly against him. In fact, I think the desire by some people to alway be demonizing other people is NOT a good thing.

I think it is odd some of the people that I know on facebook. They do not just want Hillary to NOT be President. They want her to goto jail.

I keep wanting to quote from Vonnegut's book "Mother Night" but of course, I can never find my copy of it. Towards the end, the narrator, Howard Campbell says "where is evil? It's that part of every man that wants to hate with God on his side." Or something like that.

So far the only answers to the poll seem based in that - hatred with God on it's side.

What I do believe I know about Trump is simply this - he is NOT on the side of Ordinary Americans.

Of course the trouble with that is, that his supporters will respond - neither is Hillary.

And I don't think they are wrong.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
14. of course not
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:08 PM
Jun 2016

but it is a moot point anyway, because I will take bets that he is gonna get Kansas six electoral votes anyway (unless something really strange happens).

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
9. One doesn't have to be on Trump's side
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 04:49 PM
Jun 2016

to think Hillary is NOT on the side of Ordinary Americans.

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
16. In 2012, I voted for Obama.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:50 PM
Jun 2016

I didn't think Obama was on the side of Ordinary Americans (and still don't), and considered Jill Stein (Rocky Anderson was my first choice, but he wasn't on the ballot here.), but I decided to vote for Obama because it would make it just one vote harder to steal. (I expected Romney to "win", given the amount of money spent by Big Money donors. Anonymous claims to have subverted an attempt to steal the election. Maybe they really did.)

I might do the same thing this year.

Warpy

(111,244 posts)
12. I posted much the same thing above
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 04:53 PM
Jun 2016

because he contradicts himself every time he opens his mouth. The only consistent thing about him is whipping up crowds of angry morons to hate everybody but WASP rich men.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
13. you must have read my mind
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:06 PM
Jun 2016

I was gonna say something about him flip-flopping on policy but I never really got around to it. He proposed, of course, ginormous tax cuts for the rich, but then said other things about taxes that made him sound like Obama (not that that is a good thing, I have been horrified to see Obama promote the idea of lower tax rates - but he at least seemed to be backing off from his earlier proposal (which neither he, nor the media, spent a lot of time talking about)

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
20. Politicians change their positions all the time
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:51 PM
Jun 2016

One day they're mocking mandates and the next thing you know they are telling you to eat your peas.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
17. He's the best thing to happen to the Democratic party since Barry Goldwater.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:52 PM
Jun 2016

I'm far from certain that the Democrats will beat him, but I *am* certain that they have a much better chance of doing so than any other candidate the Republicans could have picked.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
19. "I like Chinese people..."
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:20 PM
Jun 2016

They're good people. They work hard. They make wonderful fortune cookies...
ever eaten a fortune cookie? They are wonderful. Just amazing. And how they
stick those little fortunes in there... You have to wonder. How do they do that?
Its marvelous. Fantastic. I could eat a dozen!

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
40. oh crap! I forgot to even check...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:12 PM
Jun 2016

thanks for telling me, wish some would have told me just before, I forget these things!

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
23. A far more gifted con man than most of us want to believe
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:56 PM
Jun 2016

There was an OP in GD a few weeks ago about Trump using hypnotic techniques in his delivery.

Trump crushed the Republican field without breaking a sweat, he's a lot more than the crass buffoon image he cultivates so well.

Angel Martin

(942 posts)
45. probably referencing Scott Adams blog (Dilbert)
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:49 PM
Jun 2016

Trump is not someone to be underestimated. He totally smoked a big field of Repubs who by conventional standards were experienced, credible candidates.

And he did it with a mix of juvenile insults, contradictory positions and attacks that everyone condemned. The Repubs spent more than $100 mil on negative media in Florida alone and it didn't even touch him.

I see his campaign as a strategy which is "going completely contrarian". Where you get the best advice from campaign consultants on how a successful Repub runs nationally - then you do the exact opposite.

It's the political equivalent of that Seinfeld episode where George does everything "the opposite" and gets hired by the Yankees.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
27. Great poll, Kentuck. It was about time we had one specifically on the Donald.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:19 PM
Jun 2016

The only change I'd make is getting rid of one of the two first choices, which seem to echo each other.

 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
29. A Reality TV star in a show directed by Bill Clinton
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:46 PM
Jun 2016

What we are seeing is Reality TV, directed by Bill Clinton, who talked with Donald Trump prior to Trump's entering the race and reportedly encouraged him to get into it. Bill and Donny are working together to elect Hillary.

The more outrageous Trump is, the more he pushes people, who 2 years ago would have said they would NEVER vote for Hillary, into voting for her in the fall. It's the only way she can plausibly win, so that's the theater show Bill and Donald are producing.

If Hillary is nominated and we really do have a Trump-Clinton race, I'm going to try to develop new hobbies and give up on following presidential politics. I hate reality TV, and I'm convinced that's all a Clinton-Trump race will be -- a reality TV show that ends with Hillary in the White House.

Solly Mack

(90,762 posts)
34. He's a living breathing meme created by the GOP.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 11:53 PM
Jun 2016

A symptom of what ails Republicans.

Republicans/Conservatives can hide behind free speech all day but there's nothing uplifting or noble (or healthy) about people celebrating their right to embrace ignorance and hate.

Sure, they have that right - but as a country, that people do celebrate their ignorance and hate makes us all less than we could be.

People should strive to end hate and ignorance, not boast about the right to be that way and then wear it as badge of honor.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
35. He's a skilled and shameless self promoter
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:07 AM
Jun 2016

He knows what to say to get a reaction and receive media coverage.

My opinion: he didn't start out expecting this. He started out making a bunch of outrageous statements figuring that he'd get some attention; be out by Super Tuesday; and then go back to the Apprentice and making real estate deals. As it turned out, he was the right guy making the right comments in the right place at the right time. His voter base breaks down into about three equal parts: the "we need a businessman running things" crowd; the "I'm not thrilled with him, but I'll vote for any Republican" crowd; and the "won't it be a scream when Trump is President" crowd. I was listening briefly to a righty talker in a station in KC who thinks everything Trump says is "right" and "the truth", but doubts whether he actually has any intention to follow through on what he says.

Both Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton have said things to the effect of:"Donald Trump's racist rhetoric isn't who we are in America." Sadly, I think it's exactly who about 35% of us are.

 

CobaltBlue

(1,122 posts)
37. There was a 2007 CNN interview, w/ Wolf Blitzer, in which Trump said that W was a total disaster.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:22 AM
Jun 2016

He spoke of George W. Bush being the worst president in the history of the United States.

Blitzer asked if Trump is sure Bush is absolutely worse than all others who preceded him.

Trump said he couldn’t immediately think of anyone who was actually worse.

It is surprising that Republicans overlooked that interview.

I applaud Trump for having addressed it in the debates—and it got the ball rolling to really drive Jeb Bush out.

As for his campaign, I think Trump has punk’d just about everyone. He has been greatly entertaining. But in order to win the presidency, he will have to be more than Mr. Entertainer.

Instead of giving Donald Trump the presidency…give him a Special Achievement Emmy Award!

38. I'm glad he exists.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:29 AM
Jun 2016

He's probably the only Republican Hillary Clinton can beat this election year. Fortunately, he's their nominee.

Aristus

(66,316 posts)
39. He makes Gordon Gekko look like Mother Theresa.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:31 AM
Jun 2016

And he makes Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho look like Mohandas Gandhi.

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
43. He's going to tank. That's an expression known to tennis fans...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:59 PM
Jun 2016

When a player gets so outplayed and is so far behind in a set, he tanks it, meaning he intentionally loses it.

There's nothing about Trump that indicates he wants the job. His grudge du jour is with the Republican Party. Now that he's got all of his enemies throwing their support behind him, he's going to settle scores. That's all. He's going to take them all down with him. That's really quite an accomplishment, by far the most significant achievement of his entire life.

moondust

(19,972 posts)
44. Immature, spoiled rich kid
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:32 PM
Jun 2016

who figured out at a young age that he would never have to work like mere mortals, that he could just leverage all the stuff handed to him to gain even more leverage, then leverage that to gain more, then leverage that...

He must be positively giddy about the idea of having the leverage of the U.S. nuclear arsenal at his fingertips.

tavernier

(12,377 posts)
47. I heard a Trump joke today.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:39 PM
Jun 2016

Christmas Eve and Trump gets a visit from three ghosts. The first is George Washington.

"Please sir, tell me what to do to become a great president," says Trump.

"Never tell a lie," says GW.

The second, Jefferson.

Trump asks the same question.

"Respect all people," Jefferson answers.

Abe Lincoln appears.

"What is your advice?" asks Trump.

Lincoln stares for a long while at the Donald before answering.

"You look tired. Maybe you should get out more. Go to the theater."

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