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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCheck out this list of things Trump has said...
I know he says crazy and stupid stuff every day, but when you look at a lot of them listed together it's unbelievable the Republicans could nominate someone who is
clearly a dumb ass and is completely nuts.
Check this out, I found it on Digby's blog, here-
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2016/06/icyww-yes-he-has-said-all-those-things.html
Clinton laid out a long list of outrageous comments by Donald Trump in her speech yesterday. They are all true:
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This is a man who said that more countries should have nuclear weapons, including Saudi Arabia.
ANDERSON COOPER: Saudi Arabia, nuclear weapons?
TRUMP: Saudi Arabia, absolutely.
This is someone who has threatened to abandon our allies in NATO the countries that work with us to root out terrorists abroad before the strike us at home.
TRUMP: We don't really need NATO in its current form. NATO is obsolete if we have to walk, we walk.
He believes we can treat the U.S. economy like one of his casinos and default on our debts to the rest of the world, which would cause an economic catastrophe far worse than anything we experienced in 2008.
TRUMP: Ive borrowed knowing that you can pay back with discounts... I would borrow knowing that if the economy crashed, you could make a deal.
He has said that he would order our military to carry out torture...
TRUMP: Dont tell me it doesnt work torture works Waterboarding is fine, but its not nearly tough enough, ok?
and the murder of civilians who are related to suspected terrorists...
TRUMP: "The other thing with the terrorists is you have to take out their families
even though those are war crimes.
TRUMP: They wont refuse. Theyre not going to refuse me, If I say do it, theyre going to do it.
He says he doesnt have to listen to our generals or ambassadors, because he has quote a very good brain.
TRUMP: Im speaking with myself, number one, because I have a very good brain and Ive said a lot of things...my primary consultant is myself
He also said, I know more about ISIS than the generals, believe me.
TRUMP: I know more about ISIS than the generals do. Believe me.
You know what? I dont believe him.
TRUMP: We don't even really know who the leader [of ISIS] is.
He believes climate change is a hoax invented by the Chinese...
TRUMP: The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.
and has the gall to say prisoners of war like John McCain arent heroes.
TRUMP: Hes not a war hero. He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who werent captured, ok? I hate to tell you.
He praises dictators like Vladimir Putin...
TRUMP: "I will tell you, in terms of leadership, he's getting an 'A,' and our president is not doing so well.
and picks fights with our friends including the British prime minister
TRUMP: "It looks like we are not going to have a very good relationship. Who knows?"
the mayor of London
TRUMP: "Let's take an I.Q. test... I think they're very rude statements and frankly, tell him, I will remember those statements."
the German chancellor
TRUMP: What Merkel has done is incredible, its actually mind boggling. Everyone thought she was a really great leader and now shes turned out to be this
catastrophic leader. And shell be out if they dont have a revolution.
the president of Mexico
TRUMP: I don't know about the Hitler comparison [President Nieto made]. I hadn't heard that, but it's a terrible comparison. I'm not happy about that certainly. I don't want that comparison, but we have to be strong and we have to be vigilant
and the Pope.
TRUMP: I dont think [the Pope] understands the danger of the open border that we have with Mexico. I think Mexico got him to [criticize the wall] it because they want to keep the border just the way it is. Theyre making a fortune, and were losing.
He says he has foreign policy experience because he ran the Miss Universe pageant in Russia.
TRUMP: I know Russia well. I had a major event in Russia two or three years ago, Miss Universe contest, which was a big, big, incredible event.
And to top it off, he believes America is weak. An embarrassment.
TRUMP: "I think we've become very weak and ineffective."
He called our military a disaster.
TRUMP: Our military is a disaster.
He said were quote a third-world country.
TRUMP: We have become a third world country, folks.
Thats why its no small thing when he talks about leaving NATO or says hell stay neutral on Israels security.
TRUMP: Let me be sort of a neutral guy.
Its no small thing when he calls Mexican immigrants rapists and murderers.
TRUMP: When Mexico sends its people, theyre not sending their best. Theyre not sending you. Theyre not sending you. Theyre sending people that have lots of problems, and theyre bringing those problems with us. Theyre bringing drugs. Theyre bringing crime. Theyre rapists.
And its no small thing when he suggests that America should withdraw our military support for Japan, encourage them to get nuclear weapons...
TRUMP: And frankly, the case could be made, that let them protect themselves against North Korea. Theyd probably wipe them out pretty quick.
and said this about a war between Japan and North Korea and I quote If they do, they do. Good luck, enjoy yourself, folks.
TRUMP: And if they fight, you know what, that would be a terrible thing, terrible. Good luck folks, enjoy yourself if they do, they do
Donald Trump doesnt know the first thing about Iran or its nuclear program. Ask him. Itll become clear very quickly.
TRUMP: When those restrictions expire, Iran will have an industrial-size military nuclear capability ready to go." (Politifact: False.)
Theres no risk of people losing their lives if you blow up a golf-course deal. But it doesnt work like that in world affairs. Just like being interviewed on the same episode of 60 Minutes as Putin is not the same as actually dealing with Putin.
TRUMP: I got to know him very well, because we were both on 60 minutes, we were stablemates and we did very well that night. You know that.
He wants to start a trade war with China.
TRUMP: "These dummies say, 'Oh, that's a trade war. Trade war? We're losing $500 billion in trade with China. Who the hell cares if there's a trade war?
And I have to say, I dont understand Donalds bizarre fascination with dictators and strongmen who have no love for America. He praised China for the Tiananmen Square massacre; he said it showed strength.
TRUMP: When the students poured into Tiananmen Square, the Chinese government almost blew it. Then they were vicious, they were horrible, but they put it down with strength. That shows you the power of strength."
He said, Youve got to give Kim Jong Un credit for taking over North Korea something he did by murdering everyone he saw as a threat, including his own uncle, which Donald described gleefully, like he was recapping an action movie.
TRUMP: "And you've got to give him credit. How many young guys he was like 26 or 25 when his father died take over these tough generals . It's incredible. He wiped out the uncle. He wiped out this one, that one. I mean, this guy doesn't play games.
And he said that, if he were grading Vladimir Putin as a leader, hed give him an A.
TRUMP: "I will tell you, in terms of leadership, he's getting an 'A,'
Whats Trumps [ISIS plan]? He wont say. He is literally keeping it a secret. The secret, of course, is he has no idea what hed do to stop ISIS.
TRUMP: I do know what to do and I would know how to bring ISIS to the table or beyond that, defeat ISIS very quickly and Im not going to tell you what is All I can tell you it is a foolproof way of winning.
Just look at the few things he actually has said on the subject. He actually said quote maybe Syria should be a free zone for ISIS. Thats right let a terrorist group have control of a major country in the Middle East.
TRUMP: It's really rather amazing, maybe Syria should be a free zone for ISIS, let them fight and then you pick up the remnants.
Then he said we should send tens of thousands of American ground troops to the Middle East to fight ISIS.
TRUMP: "We really have no choice. We have to knock out ISIS. We have to knock the hell out of them I would listen to the generals but I'm hearing numbers of 20,000 to 30,000. We have to knock them out fast."
He also refused to rule out using nuclear weapons against ISIS, which would mean mass civilian casualties.
TRUMP: Im never going to rule anything outI wouldnt want to say [if Id use nuclear weapons against ISIS.]
Trump says over and over again, The world is laughing at us. Hes been saying this for decades.
TRUMP (1999): "[Saudi Arabians] take such advantage of us with the oil... and they laugh at this country.
TRUMP (2010): "I know many of the people in China, I know many of the big business people, and they're laughing at us.
TRUMP (2011): We have become a laughingstock, the worlds whipping boy
TRUMP (2012): The world is laughing at us."
TRUMP (2013): After Syria, our enemies are laughing!
TRUMP (2014): Mexican leadership has been laughing at us for many years
TRUMP (2015): The Persians are great negotiators. They are laughing at the stupidity of the deal were making
TRUMP (2016): We can't afford to be so nice and so foolish anymore. Our country is in trouble. ISIS is laughing at us.
He bought full-page ads in newspapers across the country back in 1987, when Reagan was President, saying that America lacked a backbone and the world was you guessed it laughing at us.
TRUMP (1987): "The world is laughing at America's politicians as we protect ships we don't own, carrying oil we don't need, destined for allies who won't help "Let's not let our great country be laughed at anymore."
And it matters when he makes fun of disabled people...
TRUMP: Now the poor guy -- you oughta see this guy [imitating disabled reporter] aaah, I dont know what I said, aaah, I dont remember.
calls women pigs...
TRUMP: Does everybody know that pig named Rosie ODonnell? Shes a disgusting pig, right?
proposes banning an entire religion from our country...
TRUMP: Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on.
or plays coy with white supremacists.
TRUMP: "I don't know anything about what you're even talking about with white supremacy or white supremacists. So I don't know. I don't know -- did he endorse me, or what's going on? Because I know nothing about David Duke; I know nothing about white supremacists."
There are a lot of other horrifying things he's said as well, including the truly stunning credo "Your civil liberties end where our safety begins." (And he was talking about applying the death penalty to five people who later turned out to be innocent.)
You could go on for days with this stuff.
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Journeyman
(15,031 posts)KelleyKramer
(8,956 posts)historian
(2,475 posts)If Americans aren't a really ignorant bunch of people who love a good show but not substance, then Trump would never have advanced this far. I have lived abroad in many countries and capitals and Americans have a reputation of being arrogant and ignorant. They seem to think that the whole world wants to be like us, which they don't. We try to show our so called democracy down their throats (we are a representative republic) but our system is corrupt to the core because money, and only money, rules. We make no effort to understand others, to learn their customs and traditions, and to try and live within those boundaries. I have seen Americans approach locals in foreign cities and ask a question in English. When the person doesn't answer because he or she doesn't speak English, we raise our voice and shout at them as if that would make them understand. We do not understand the world around us, neither do we care and that is where our decline lies. Do much for Trump, who would be the laughingstock of the world were he not do dangerous. Hillary is no bargain either - she voted to invade Iraq so as far as I'm concerned she is just as dangerous, though more predictable, than Trump
KelleyKramer
(8,956 posts)I agree with some of what you are saying, but most polling models I have seen have Republicans at about 33% of the US electorate. And Trump has the support of about half of the GOP, so that would be about 17% of the US supports tRUMP.
And I agree completely about Americans being ignorant when traveling abroad, had to laugh at the part about the Americans who are such assholes they expect everyone else to speak English... a lot of those are the exact same assholes who throw a fit here saying, no screaming, that ... 'you're in the US now, we speak English!'
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smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)And extremely dangerous.