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OnDoutside

(20,868 posts)
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 03:58 AM Jun 2016

Trump and Classic Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD)

The Mayo Clinic describe NPD as

Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental disorder in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for admiration and a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of ultraconfidence lies a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism.


A narcissistic personality disorder causes problems in many areas of life, such as relationships, work, school or financial affairs. You may be generally unhappy and disappointed when you're not given the special favors or admiration you believe you deserve. Others may not enjoy being around you, and you may find your relationships unfulfilling.


The Symptoms read like a Trump checklist

•Having an exaggerated sense of self-importance
•Expecting to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it
•Exaggerating your achievements and talents
•Being preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate
•Believing that you are superior and can only be understood by or associate with equally special people
•Requiring constant admiration
•Having a sense of entitlement
•Expecting special favors and unquestioning compliance with your expectations
•Taking advantage of others to get what you want
•Having an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others
•Being envious of others and believing others envy you
•Behaving in an arrogant or haughty manner

Bearing this in mind, there is an obvious potential dividend in relentlessly mocking Trump, in order to get him to erupt in response. However is there a line here that the Democrats need to tread in pushing someone who is so obviously ill, too much ?

So far it has worked fantastically well with the intervention by Elizabeth Warren and then Hillary's speech during the week, but is there a danger that it can be overdone and have a negative effect with the public ?








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renate

(13,776 posts)
1. "others may not enjoy being around you"
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 04:32 AM
Jun 2016

If it weren't Trump, I'd feel sorry for him. How sad it must be, to live a life where others tolerate you or suck up to you only because of your money, and are always happy to see you leave and sorry to see you come in the door.

Too bad, so sad.

pnwmom

(110,261 posts)
2. Fortunately, he's so profoundly narcissistic that, in the debates, Hillary will probably
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 04:44 AM
Jun 2016

be able to needle him in subtle ways that won't seem like terrible attacks to normal people but will cause him to flip out.

Hopefully she'll get some expert coaching on this.

Skittles

(171,710 posts)
3. I keep saying this
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 05:17 AM
Jun 2016

the Dem nominee needs advice from the pros regarding how to push the buttons of an extreme narcissist

OnDoutside

(20,868 posts)
5. I would be shocked if they didn't already have the input of psychologists, in formulating tactics to
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 06:16 AM
Jun 2016

do exactly that.

MFM008

(20,042 posts)
4. Im afraid
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 06:02 AM
Jun 2016

he will find some way to weasel out of debates, especially if hes behind on the polls, which I expect.
It wouldn't surprise me at all.

OnDoutside

(20,868 posts)
6. That thought crossed my mind as well, but that would be screwing the Networks who would be expecting
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 06:20 AM
Jun 2016

their big nights. The bigger problem is if Johnson gets on the debate floor. People have suggested Trump would be against him, but I think he would love to have him there, to hide behind.

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
7. But, because he's a white.. male...heterosexual...rich... Christian he can say whatever he wants
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:02 AM
Jun 2016

... and he'll still be supported by 45% of republicans

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. Malignant narcissism is a further stage, or
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:30 AM
Jun 2016

even more serious disorder, more malicious, destructive, and dangerous. That said, please note that personality disorders are not considered illnesses. They go more to how the brain is wired and working and are extremely hard to treat. The most successful mode is intensive continuous behavior modification, but of course Trump is not going to go for that and it wouldn't not allow someone to function at a presidential level anyway.

Trump is seriously dysfunctional as a result of his disorder and functions emotionally at the level of a child, which we all see every day now. He is astonishingly profoundly ignorant about the world because he is only capable of caring about those things that reflect on his personal image somehow, and then he cares about them from that viewpoint, a childish notion of how he must be admired because of it.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
9. Clinton: "Tell us again about your very, very big brain, Mr. Trump."
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:35 AM
Jun 2016

You just need to quote him to his face.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

backscatter712

(26,357 posts)
12. Open up the DSM to the section on Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and you'll find his picture. nt
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:05 PM
Jun 2016
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