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metroins

(2,550 posts)
1. It's his son
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:07 PM
Jun 2016

I will not pass judgement on a letter written by the father for his son's sentencing.

It's not fair.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
10. Yeah, it's his son. And I'll bet Daddy has been making excuses for him all his life.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:39 PM
Jun 2016

I wonder if the Little Dear has ever experienced an appropriate punishment for anything he's done in his life. Which is no doubt part of the reason why he did what he did in the first place. Why would he expect there to be a price to pay for this when there never has been for anything else in his 20 years?

And now he still won't experience any real punishment, even for a violent crime. No sympathy here, for father or son. Zero.

Ms. Toad

(33,992 posts)
11. Maybe you won't, but I will.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:52 PM
Jun 2016

Having been in a similar situation with my brother, that dad is tone-deaf and making the situation worse.

I speak from experience when I say that there are ways of requesting leniency in sentencing that do not minimize the severity of his actions, do not deny that they were violenct, and are respectful to the victims.

His son chose to drink, as did my brother on March 29, 1980. My brother died after spending 36 years of his life in prison, a little over two weeks ago. Although all of us who loved him (and the closest family members of his victims) agree that his entire life should not be judged on the basis of the worst night of all of our lives, none of us would argue that his actions were not violent, or that binge drinking and promiscuity were the issue - rather than choices he made.

It is not the life we would have chosen for him, or that he would have chosen for himself had he been in his right mind that night. But ultimately, it was his choice to drink and use peyote - and he is responsible for whatever he did under their influence. That is the message he immediately internalized, even though he has no memory of that night - and that is the consistent message he heard from everyone who loved him. In large part because he (and we) never denied his responsibility for his actions, he quickly turned to making his life as good as it could be, given that it is not the life he planned. While in prison, my brother became a leader within the Native American community, a talented artist, a respected elder within jail, and a calming influence on young hot-heads. Long before he died, he had achieved the respect of inmates and prison administration alike.

The father here is not only hurting the victim by his insensitive remarks, he is actively encouraging his son to shift responsibility to things beyond his control (a culture of binge drinking and promiscuity). That will hinder his son from doing the kind of self-reflection he needs to do in order use this night to accept responsibility for the consequences of his choices and to make the best of a life that has been forever altered by his choices that night.

Warpy

(111,141 posts)
8. Not just sex, apparently he used an object to do the deed.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:29 PM
Jun 2016

I don't know what he shoved inside her but it wasn't just himself. This was an insanely brutal act by a predator who in all likelihood will do it again, especially since all he got was a tap on his widdle wrist.

The female half of the human race needs this asshole off the street. Sorry, Dad.

Takket

(21,528 posts)
3. it takes less than a second for a bullet to go from a barrel to someone's head
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:10 PM
Jun 2016

so should shooters never go to prison?

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
4. Asshat.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:11 PM
Jun 2016

Binge drinking and sexual promiscuity?

I can only imagine what he says about the young woman in private. Clearly, the fruit hasn't fallen far from that tree.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
5. Pulling a trigger is "one second of action", so hey, lot's not judge anyone here.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:13 PM
Jun 2016

It was a choice. He chose to rape. The length of time of that choice matters not, simply that he made it.

I read the statement by his victim two days ago, and it's still in my head. I could, perhaps, rustle up a smidgen of sympathy for the rapist if he ever exhibited even the slightest hint of remorse, but as his victim points out, he never acknowledges what he did to her.

It's all about him. Things "that happened." Passive voice. As if rape befell them both out of a clear blue sky.

Ew. No.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
6. Those 20 minutes made a victim of his family too
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:14 PM
Jun 2016

Obviously this father is heartbroken. Not about the victim though, and that makes a difference.

petronius

(26,597 posts)
9. Why exactly is a lightly-punished rapist--and one with no apparent awareness of the
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:30 PM
Jun 2016

harm done to his victim, to boot--such an ideal educator on the topics of alcohol and promiscuity? What lessons has he learned to pass on: "Uh, don't rape because if you get caught it'll make you too sad to have yummy steaks and snacks with your dad."?

I can understand that Mr. Turner cares about his son and wants to defend him, but this is a repulsive letter in a lot of different ways...

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