Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:15 AM
Jitter65 (3,089 posts)
It would be great if Jill Stein (who hates Hillary) would for the sake of country ask the GreensThis discussion thread was locked as off-topic by tammywammy (a host of the General Discussion forum). I really don't see why the Greens can't or won't do this. Talk about a "revolution!" That would be one. The Libertarians have almost cut off the Greens at this point.
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Jitter65 | Jun 2016 | OP |
beachbum bob | Jun 2016 | #1 | |
ChisolmTrailDem | Jun 2016 | #4 | |
beachbum bob | Jun 2016 | #6 | |
ChisolmTrailDem | Jun 2016 | #9 | |
beachbum bob | Jun 2016 | #12 | |
pangaia | Jun 2016 | #5 | |
Bluenorthwest | Jun 2016 | #19 | |
PoliticAverse | Jun 2016 | #2 | |
rateyes | Jun 2016 | #3 | |
Renew Deal | Jun 2016 | #13 | |
rateyes | Jun 2016 | #15 | |
MADem | Jun 2016 | #17 | |
cwydro | Jun 2016 | #7 | |
pangaia | Jun 2016 | #8 | |
Renew Deal | Jun 2016 | #10 | |
MADem | Jun 2016 | #18 | |
Jester Messiah | Jun 2016 | #11 | |
rogerashton | Jun 2016 | #14 | |
Bluenorthwest | Jun 2016 | #20 | |
rogerashton | Jun 2016 | #26 | |
HooptieWagon | Jun 2016 | #16 | |
demmiblue | Jun 2016 | #21 | |
dembotoz | Jun 2016 | #22 | |
Warpy | Jun 2016 | #23 | |
Beowulf | Jun 2016 | #24 | |
surrealAmerican | Jun 2016 | #25 | |
tammywammy | Jun 2016 | #27 |
Response to Jitter65 (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:17 AM
beachbum bob (10,437 posts)
1. green party doesn't give a crap about democrats or america's well being....
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Response to beachbum bob (Reply #1)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:22 AM
ChisolmTrailDem (9,463 posts)
4. How do you figure? nt
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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #4)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:23 AM
beachbum bob (10,437 posts)
6. historical evidence....2000 election for starters
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Response to beachbum bob (Reply #6)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:26 AM
ChisolmTrailDem (9,463 posts)
9. Please, don't let me stop you from fleshing out your response...
![]() How does the Green Party not care about America's well-being? Are you suggesting the Green Party does not deserve to exist? What it is? |
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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #9)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:31 AM
beachbum bob (10,437 posts)
12. green party's agenda is extremly narrow had has no universial appeal to the crossection of america
2000 was a perfect example where Nader used the green party to throw a wrench into the democratic side of the election....and succeeded
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Response to beachbum bob (Reply #1)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:23 AM
pangaia (24,324 posts)
5. "green party doesn't give a crap about democrats or america's well being."
Well I can not blame them for not giving a crap about the democratic party, but 'america's well being?"
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Response to beachbum bob (Reply #1)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:53 AM
Bluenorthwest (45,319 posts)
19. In 2008, some local Greens backed Obama as 'Green Dog Democrats' and one of the things that
first made me like Mrs Obama was a local encounter she had at an ice cream shop around the corner with a guy in a Green Party tee shirt. She walked in, looked at the room and made a bee line to the Green and asked for that vote with a big smile of the sort one offers to allies.
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Response to Jitter65 (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:20 AM
PoliticAverse (26,366 posts)
2. What would be the point of being in a "Third Party" if you were just going to endorse...
one of the other party candidates? It's kinda the whole point of being in a third party not to do that.
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Response to Jitter65 (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:21 AM
rateyes (17,430 posts)
3. If she wants to help the country she will reach out
to Bernie to help work in the coming political revolution.
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Response to rateyes (Reply #3)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:31 AM
Renew Deal (81,067 posts)
13. "coming political revolution"
This reminds me of the people predicting the end times. The date always gets pushed back.
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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #13)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:37 AM
rateyes (17,430 posts)
15. Revolution is a process. Don't really care what
it reminds you of.
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Response to rateyes (Reply #3)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:43 AM
MADem (135,425 posts)
17. Jill Stein has already asked Sanders to "cooperate" with her--LOL!
She certainly has a good opinion of herself!
http://www.salon.com/2016/04/25/jill_stein_pens_open_letter_to_bernie_sanders_green_party_presidential_candidate_invites_sanders_to_cooperate_on_political_revolution/ |
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Response to Jitter65 (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:24 AM
cwydro (50,508 posts)
7. This is the wrong forum for primary discussion.
Did you somehow miss the big red stop sign when you began to post?
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Response to Jitter65 (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:24 AM
pangaia (24,324 posts)
8. Why in the world would the Green Party support Clinton?
"For the sake of the country" HUH?
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Response to Jitter65 (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:29 AM
Renew Deal (81,067 posts)
10. Stein is an extremist nut. Don't expect logic and reason from her.
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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #10)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:44 AM
MADem (135,425 posts)
18. +1. nt
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Response to Jitter65 (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:29 AM
Jester Messiah (4,711 posts)
11. Seeing as Jill just asked her people in CA to GOTV for Sanders...
I don't think you're going to get your wish.
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Response to Jitter65 (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:32 AM
rogerashton (3,915 posts)
14. In most states, it is illegal for a third party to back a major party candidate.
New York is the exception. In New York, it would be legal for the Greens to put HRC in the ballot as their candidate for president; in that case (on the one hand) Green votes would count toward HRC in determining New York's vote in the electoral college, but (on the other hand) those votes would count to keep the Greens on the ballot in the next election. In other states, a two-party consensus makes this impossible under electoral law (since both of the major parties would prefer to keep other parties off the ballot entirely.) It would be good if, in the future, the Democratic Party would change its position on this.
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Response to rogerashton (Reply #14)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:58 AM
Bluenorthwest (45,319 posts)
20. It's not a DNC position, it is a State level thing. Oregon also has 'cross nominations' and like NY
a thriving Working Families Party that regularly cross nominates with the Democrats. Any State could do that if they wanted to. NY is not THE exception, it is one of eight exceptions. Along with NY and Oregon, CT, Delaware, Idaho, Mississippi, South Carolina and Vermont make up the eight States with some form of electoral fusion.
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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #20)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:01 PM
rogerashton (3,915 posts)
26. OK, good point about other exceptions --
and, agreed, it is not a DNC thing. As I said, it is bipartisan, in most states. And it could be costly to either major party in given circumstances. The OP was saying that the bGreens should support Hillary, and these electoral laws make it essentially suicidal -- from a party point of view. As we sow so shall we reap.
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Response to Jitter65 (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:40 AM
HooptieWagon (17,064 posts)
16. Hillary is The Anti-Green.
There is very little in common. I cannot see any 'endorsement' of Hillary coming. If Hillary wanted votes from the Left, she wouldn't have been so Rightwing. Clinton political expediency triangulation kind of blew up in her face. Sucks for her, and the RW Democrats who thought she'd be a good candidate.
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Response to Jitter65 (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:01 AM
demmiblue (35,788 posts)
21. Wrong forum. n/t
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Response to Jitter65 (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:27 AM
dembotoz (16,049 posts)
22. as i find myself being left of what appears to be the new hrc du...the greens become more attractive
as with the moderate republicans who claim they did not leave the party but the party left them...i am beginning to understand how that feels
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Response to Jitter65 (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:29 AM
Warpy (107,367 posts)
23. Oh, and just peachy if Republicans would stop being so silly and just support her, instead
Jeez.....
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Response to Jitter65 (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:33 AM
Beowulf (761 posts)
24. The Democratic Party as a neoliberal, "New Democratic" Party
Might mimic some Green ideas, however, the two parties have few similarities in values and ultimate goals. The Clinton wing is much more comfortable hanging out with the GOP than the Greens.
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Response to Jitter65 (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:38 AM
surrealAmerican (11,178 posts)
25. Hillary would have to take some brave stands on environmental issues ...
... to garner an endorsement like that. I somehow don't see that happening any time soon.
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Response to Jitter65 (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:05 PM
tammywammy (26,582 posts)
27. Locking
You can repost in General Discussion: Primaries
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