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Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:15 AM Jun 2016

It would be great if Jill Stein (who hates Hillary) would for the sake of country ask the Greens

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to support Hillary. The Dems have so much more in common with the Greens at this point. They would be able to have almost as much influence on the platform in July as BS supporters, although not officially on the committee. People of mutual interests need to come together to defeat the GOP, no matter who their candidate ends up being.

I really don't see why the Greens can't or won't do this. Talk about a "revolution!" That would be one. The Libertarians have almost cut off the Greens at this point.

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It would be great if Jill Stein (who hates Hillary) would for the sake of country ask the Greens (Original Post) Jitter65 Jun 2016 OP
green party doesn't give a crap about democrats or america's well being.... beachbum bob Jun 2016 #1
How do you figure? nt ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2016 #4
historical evidence....2000 election for starters beachbum bob Jun 2016 #6
Please, don't let me stop you from fleshing out your response... ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2016 #9
green party's agenda is extremly narrow had has no universial appeal to the crossection of america beachbum bob Jun 2016 #12
"green party doesn't give a crap about democrats or america's well being." pangaia Jun 2016 #5
In 2008, some local Greens backed Obama as 'Green Dog Democrats' and one of the things that Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #19
What would be the point of being in a "Third Party" if you were just going to endorse... PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #2
If she wants to help the country she will reach out rateyes Jun 2016 #3
"coming political revolution" Renew Deal Jun 2016 #13
Revolution is a process. Don't really care what rateyes Jun 2016 #15
Jill Stein has already asked Sanders to "cooperate" with her--LOL! MADem Jun 2016 #17
This is the wrong forum for primary discussion. cwydro Jun 2016 #7
Why in the world would the Green Party support Clinton? pangaia Jun 2016 #8
Stein is an extremist nut. Don't expect logic and reason from her. Renew Deal Jun 2016 #10
+1. nt MADem Jun 2016 #18
Seeing as Jill just asked her people in CA to GOTV for Sanders... Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #11
In most states, it is illegal for a third party to back a major party candidate. rogerashton Jun 2016 #14
It's not a DNC position, it is a State level thing. Oregon also has 'cross nominations' and like NY Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #20
OK, good point about other exceptions -- rogerashton Jun 2016 #26
Hillary is The Anti-Green. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #16
Wrong forum. n/t demmiblue Jun 2016 #21
as i find myself being left of what appears to be the new hrc du...the greens become more attractive dembotoz Jun 2016 #22
Oh, and just peachy if Republicans would stop being so silly and just support her, instead Warpy Jun 2016 #23
The Democratic Party as a neoliberal, "New Democratic" Party Beowulf Jun 2016 #24
Hillary would have to take some brave stands on environmental issues ... surrealAmerican Jun 2016 #25
Locking tammywammy Jun 2016 #27
 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
1. green party doesn't give a crap about democrats or america's well being....
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:17 AM
Jun 2016
 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
4. How do you figure? nt
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:22 AM
Jun 2016
 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
6. historical evidence....2000 election for starters
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:23 AM
Jun 2016
 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
9. Please, don't let me stop you from fleshing out your response...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:26 AM
Jun 2016


How does the Green Party not care about America's well-being?

Are you suggesting the Green Party does not deserve to exist? What it is?

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
12. green party's agenda is extremly narrow had has no universial appeal to the crossection of america
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:31 AM
Jun 2016

2000 was a perfect example where Nader used the green party to throw a wrench into the democratic side of the election....and succeeded

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
5. "green party doesn't give a crap about democrats or america's well being."
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:23 AM
Jun 2016

Well I can not blame them for not giving a crap about the democratic party, but 'america's well being?"

Are you kidding me????

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
19. In 2008, some local Greens backed Obama as 'Green Dog Democrats' and one of the things that
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:53 AM
Jun 2016

first made me like Mrs Obama was a local encounter she had at an ice cream shop around the corner with a guy in a Green Party tee shirt. She walked in, looked at the room and made a bee line to the Green and asked for that vote with a big smile of the sort one offers to allies.
Good thing Michelle Obama does not have your attitude.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
2. What would be the point of being in a "Third Party" if you were just going to endorse...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:20 AM
Jun 2016

one of the other party candidates? It's kinda the whole point of being in a third party not to do that.

And no one really cares what's in the platform.

rateyes

(17,439 posts)
3. If she wants to help the country she will reach out
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:21 AM
Jun 2016

to Bernie to help work in the coming political revolution.

Renew Deal

(81,953 posts)
13. "coming political revolution"
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:31 AM
Jun 2016

This reminds me of the people predicting the end times. The date always gets pushed back.

rateyes

(17,439 posts)
15. Revolution is a process. Don't really care what
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:37 AM
Jun 2016

it reminds you of.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
17. Jill Stein has already asked Sanders to "cooperate" with her--LOL!
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:43 AM
Jun 2016
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
7. This is the wrong forum for primary discussion.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:24 AM
Jun 2016

Did you somehow miss the big red stop sign when you began to post?

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
8. Why in the world would the Green Party support Clinton?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:24 AM
Jun 2016

"For the sake of the country" HUH?

Renew Deal

(81,953 posts)
10. Stein is an extremist nut. Don't expect logic and reason from her.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:29 AM
Jun 2016

MADem

(135,425 posts)
18. +1. nt
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:44 AM
Jun 2016
 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
11. Seeing as Jill just asked her people in CA to GOTV for Sanders...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:29 AM
Jun 2016

I don't think you're going to get your wish.

rogerashton

(3,920 posts)
14. In most states, it is illegal for a third party to back a major party candidate.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:32 AM
Jun 2016

New York is the exception. In New York, it would be legal for the Greens to put HRC in the ballot as their candidate for president; in that case (on the one hand) Green votes would count toward HRC in determining New York's vote in the electoral college, but (on the other hand) those votes would count to keep the Greens on the ballot in the next election. In other states, a two-party consensus makes this impossible under electoral law (since both of the major parties would prefer to keep other parties off the ballot entirely.) It would be good if, in the future, the Democratic Party would change its position on this.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
20. It's not a DNC position, it is a State level thing. Oregon also has 'cross nominations' and like NY
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:58 AM
Jun 2016

a thriving Working Families Party that regularly cross nominates with the Democrats. Any State could do that if they wanted to. NY is not THE exception, it is one of eight exceptions. Along with NY and Oregon, CT, Delaware, Idaho, Mississippi, South Carolina and Vermont make up the eight States with some form of electoral fusion.

rogerashton

(3,920 posts)
26. OK, good point about other exceptions --
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:01 PM
Jun 2016

and, agreed, it is not a DNC thing. As I said, it is bipartisan, in most states. And it could be costly to either major party in given circumstances. The OP was saying that the bGreens should support Hillary, and these electoral laws make it essentially suicidal -- from a party point of view. As we sow so shall we reap.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
16. Hillary is The Anti-Green.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:40 AM
Jun 2016

There is very little in common. I cannot see any 'endorsement' of Hillary coming. If Hillary wanted votes from the Left, she wouldn't have been so Rightwing. Clinton political expediency triangulation kind of blew up in her face. Sucks for her, and the RW Democrats who thought she'd be a good candidate.

demmiblue

(37,081 posts)
21. Wrong forum. n/t
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:01 AM
Jun 2016

dembotoz

(16,899 posts)
22. as i find myself being left of what appears to be the new hrc du...the greens become more attractive
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:27 AM
Jun 2016

as with the moderate republicans who claim they did not leave the party but the party left them...i am beginning to understand how that feels

Warpy

(111,815 posts)
23. Oh, and just peachy if Republicans would stop being so silly and just support her, instead
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:29 AM
Jun 2016

Jeez.....

Beowulf

(761 posts)
24. The Democratic Party as a neoliberal, "New Democratic" Party
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:33 AM
Jun 2016

Might mimic some Green ideas, however, the two parties have few similarities in values and ultimate goals. The Clinton wing is much more comfortable hanging out with the GOP than the Greens.

surrealAmerican

(11,384 posts)
25. Hillary would have to take some brave stands on environmental issues ...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:38 AM
Jun 2016

... to garner an endorsement like that. I somehow don't see that happening any time soon.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
27. Locking
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:05 PM
Jun 2016

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