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niyad

(113,284 posts)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:42 PM Jun 2016

Did Your Son Rape A Woman? We Mean ‘Drink Excessively And Do Promiscuity To Her’?

(the comments at wonkette are worth reading. the father of this rapist is so clueless that there really are no words to explain (well, words that can be used in polite company, anyway. 20 minutes of out the rapist's life--not one damned word about the rapist's victim)

let's talk about college campus drinking culture and the sexual promiscuity that goes along with that baby

Did Your Son Rape A Woman? We Mean ‘Drink Excessively And Do Promiscuity To Her’?



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gonna do some campus drinking culture and the sexual promiscuity that goes along with it all night!

Perhaps you were on the Internet this weekend. If so, presumably you already read the holy shit Buzzfeed letter that the woman who was raped at Stanford wrote to her rapist, young, nerdy Brock Turner. She is a really good writer! It was a holy shit letter! If you haven’t read it, head on over, and we’ll see you back here in … hmmmm, about 20 minutes. Okay, scoot!

So, that was an excellent letter. It made you sad, and angry, and punch something. It was very evocative! You really felt like you were there! Maybe you, like the Swedes on bicycles, would have stopped the rape behind the dumpster. Maybe you would have called someone else for help! Maybe you would have done neither of those things, but instead would inform everyone that alcohol causes promiscuity. Let’s find the relevant portion of this woman’s letter to the man who raped her, which she read aloud in open court.


Unfortunately, after reading the defendant’s report, I am severely disappointed and feel that he has failed to exhibit sincere remorse or responsibility for his conduct. I fully respected his right to a trial, but even after twelve jurors unanimously convicted him guilty of three felonies, all he has admitted to doing is ingesting alcohol. Someone who cannot take full accountability for his actions does not deserve a mitigating sentence. It is deeply offensive that he would try and dilute rape with a suggestion of “promiscuity”. By definition rape is not the absence of promiscuity, rape is the absence of consent, and it perturbs me deeply that he can’t even see that distinction.

We don’t need to belabor this, do we? Brock Turner has been found guilty of three violent felonies; pine needles and dirt were removed from the vagina of the woman who wrote the letter, after he raped her on the gravel behind a dumpster; he admits only to drinking and promiscuity. We are all clear that this is … an inadequate response?

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Read more at http://wonkette.com/602615/did-your-son-rape-a-woman-we-mean-drink-excessively-and-do-promiscuity-to-her#AGrJQb2CFUbYwIR2.99

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Did Your Son Rape A Woman? We Mean ‘Drink Excessively And Do Promiscuity To Her’? (Original Post) niyad Jun 2016 OP
K&R smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #1
But the poor kid is so depressed that he's not eating his snacks! pinboy3niner Jun 2016 #2
yes, so why are we not crying rivers of tears for the poor soul? niyad Jun 2016 #3
Thats the dumbest part of the excuse. He lost his position on the swim team. So he's not eating 4-5k AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #8
K&R Solly Mack Jun 2016 #4
Kick, kick, kick! Heidi Jun 2016 #5
Apple doesn't fall far from the tree, like father, like son. What pieces... Humanist_Activist Jun 2016 #6
And Wonkette is right: that is one HOLY SHIT powerful letter and everyone should read it. n/t pnwmom Jun 2016 #7
She slayed every meme and every excuse every rape apologist ever whips out. AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #9
If Karma is real... Fritz Walter Jun 2016 #10
as of earlier this evening, 86,000 sigs at change.org demanding the judge's recall. niyad Jun 2016 #18
This young man and his father are Bettie Jun 2016 #11
thank you for reminding us of that tiny bit of hopeful news. you are correct. niyad Jun 2016 #19
The father doesn't think his son should suffer for "20 minutes of action" smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #12
Yeah, that was a mindblowingly stupid thing for him to say mythology Jun 2016 #13
Unreal Invincibility Jun 2016 #14
I think his father is what went wrong with his upbringing. smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #15
welcome to du. niyad Jun 2016 #20
The father and son are self-serving narcissistic assholes that should be monitored by LEO. Rex Jun 2016 #16
This rape really is case study in minimizing responsibility of the rapist. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #17
as I have said, I think there are some very sick skeletons in that judge's closet. niyad Jun 2016 #21
The judge also went to Stanford TexasBushwhacker Jun 2016 #22
wow, why am I not surprised? niyad Jun 2016 #23
WTF is "do promiscuity to her" mean? smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #24
I think that was in reference to the fact that this RAPIST is now, supposedly, creating niyad Jun 2016 #26
I live where this happened REP Jun 2016 #25
the rape itself was horrible enough, but the letter from dear old rape apologist dad, niyad Jun 2016 #27
From what I heard at my precinct, he won't survive the November vote REP Jun 2016 #28
too bad he cannot be removed now, and get off the public teat. niyad Jun 2016 #29
The Father needs to serve a long term in prison... harrose Jun 2016 #30
I think rapist son learned clueless from daddy disgusting niyad Jun 2016 #31
No kidding... harrose Jun 2016 #32

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
8. Thats the dumbest part of the excuse. He lost his position on the swim team. So he's not eating 4-5k
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:41 PM
Jun 2016

calories a day anymore training. NO SHIT HIS APPETITE WENT DOWN.

That's like the biggest non-reason wrapped up in a non-apology I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
9. She slayed every meme and every excuse every rape apologist ever whips out.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:42 PM
Jun 2016

It should be required reading in high school.

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
10. If Karma is real...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:53 PM
Jun 2016

Brock's swimmer-build will make him very popular on his cell block during those 180 days.
4,320 hours.
Or 12,960 intervals of 20 minutes.
Yes, I know: two wrongs don't make a right, but justice was not served in this case. And justice is supposed to be blind.

The dad?
Karma might just have to wait until the next reincarnation. Garden slug? Dung beetle? Other invertebrate?

And as for the judge?
Recall. Which is already being sought.

niyad

(113,284 posts)
18. as of earlier this evening, 86,000 sigs at change.org demanding the judge's recall.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:28 PM
Jun 2016

I wish for the judge, the rapist and the rapist's apologist father, everything they deserve.

Bettie

(16,095 posts)
11. This young man and his father are
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:29 PM
Jun 2016

horrible people. The young man was clearly never taught to take responsibility for his actions.

The sentencing was just wrong.

But, I take hope in one thing, one small, but important thing.

He was convicted unanimously. Juries so often don't convict on rape, so that is a small bit of good poking out of this horrible thing.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
12. The father doesn't think his son should suffer for "20 minutes of action"
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:47 PM
Jun 2016

Have you ever heard anything more disgusting in your life? Obviously, we see where this piece of trash gets his morals from.

I hope both their lives become a living hell. I have been on other boards where this father/son duo has been universally condemned, as well as the judge. As usual, DU doesn't seem to have too much of a problem with it.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
13. Yeah, that was a mindblowingly stupid thing for him to say
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:54 PM
Jun 2016

I get that he is in denial that his kid is a worthless piece of crap, but wow.

 

Invincibility

(20 posts)
14. Unreal
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:17 PM
Jun 2016

You see a passed out woman somewhere. What do you do?
Options:
1-Get help for here.(The ethical and proper answer)
2-Do nothing and MYOB.(The selfish answer if you want to avoid potential liability or harm to yourself.)
3-decide to rape her.(wtf is wrong with you).

There's no possible justification for even thinking #3 is the right option. The guy who raped her is either some kind of perverted sociopath, or something went VERY wrong in his upbringing.

And I read he raped her with an object? That makes it even more disturbing. This wasn't even about sex most likely. He just wanted to violate and degrade his victim for some reason. Probably a future serial killer in the making.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
15. I think his father is what went wrong with his upbringing.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:43 PM
Jun 2016

And you are right about her being raped with an object. This wasn't about uncontrolled sexual desire, this was an act to violate and degrade the victim. Plus, he ran when he was approached by the two Swedish men who tried to help her. This proves that he knew that he was committing a crime and trying to escape retribution.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
16. The father and son are self-serving narcissistic assholes that should be monitored by LEO.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:45 PM
Jun 2016

I would actually want to check the fathers basement for chained up women, they seem the type.

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
17. This rape really is case study in minimizing responsibility of the rapist.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:48 PM
Jun 2016

I understand why defense lawyers are despicable and father's are in denial or lie, but the judge should have seen right through those manipulations.

Sadly the judge seemed to buy into it.

niyad

(113,284 posts)
21. as I have said, I think there are some very sick skeletons in that judge's closet.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:31 PM
Jun 2016

"gosh, judge, how many women have you raped that you think this behaviour is worth only a tap on the wrist?"

TexasBushwhacker

(20,185 posts)
22. The judge also went to Stanford
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:17 AM
Jun 2016

and was captain of the lacrosse team.

The good news is that the rapist planned on being a surgeon. I don't think he'll find a medical school that will take a registered sex offender.

niyad

(113,284 posts)
23. wow, why am I not surprised?
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:07 AM
Jun 2016

ugh--the rapist was going to be a surgeon? thank goodness we are spared that. wait--does liberty have a medical school?

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
24. WTF is "do promiscuity to her" mean?
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 07:31 PM
Jun 2016

They can't even call it what it is - Rape. God this case makes me sick.

niyad

(113,284 posts)
26. I think that was in reference to the fact that this RAPIST is now, supposedly, creating
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 09:27 PM
Jun 2016

some program or other about campus drinking and promiscuity. nothing about rape, consent, etc.,

REP

(21,691 posts)
25. I live where this happened
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 07:47 PM
Jun 2016

I'm a little tempted to do "20 minutes of action" to, say, the Turners' vehicles with a sledgehammer and see if they can find forgiveness for me; after all, it was just 20 minutes out of 51 blameless years, and I'm from a very good family ...

(In case there's any doubt, no I'm not threatening to actually commit property damage against anyone. My arthritis is too bad to do 2 minutes of action with a sledgehammer, let alone 20.)

niyad

(113,284 posts)
27. the rape itself was horrible enough, but the letter from dear old rape apologist dad,
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 09:29 PM
Jun 2016

and that damned judge. . . . is there any likelihood of an actual recall on that judge (who has, I suspect, some very nasty skeletons in his closet, as does daddy disgusting)

REP

(21,691 posts)
28. From what I heard at my precinct, he won't survive the November vote
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 09:36 PM
Jun 2016

EVERYBODY - men and women of all ages - are pissed about it. Nobody wants this judge on the bench.

harrose

(380 posts)
30. The Father needs to serve a long term in prison...
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 10:41 PM
Jun 2016

... maybe that will give him some idea of what the victim is going through.

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