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EV_Ares

(6,587 posts)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:15 PM Jun 2016

The DNC Joins Arms with America’s Most Hated Company to Host National Convention

This is not a good thing by any means.

Comcast, which has been named America’s worst company, is an honored guest at this year’s Democratic National Convention.

Philadelphia, which is the home of the cable giant’s headquarters, is also hosting this year’s Democratic National Convention — at the Comcast Spectator’s Wells Fargo Center. And as the New York Post recently reported, the Democratic Party is offering prime access to convention activities and leading elected officials to Comcast executives who donate $100,000 or more.

These so-called “Empire Donors” are given access to members of Congress for photo-ops at the convention podium, slots at VIP dinners, and even tickets to a New York Yankees game with a “special guest.” Progressive advocacy organization Public Citizen told the Post the arrangement reeks of a corrupt, pay-for-play system.

“The company that chips in with $100,000 will have one-on-one access with the presidential candidate and congressional lawmakers as well, and they are buying influence in our government,” Public Citizen spokesman Craig Holman told the Post. “It’s one of the most offensive elements of our campaign process, an embarrassment that doesn’t pass the smell test and has never passed the smell test.”

Link to Article: http://usuncut.com/politics/democratic-national-convention-comcast/

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The DNC Joins Arms with America’s Most Hated Company to Host National Convention (Original Post) EV_Ares Jun 2016 OP
Re-visting 'outrage' from a month ago? onehandle Jun 2016 #1
Revisiting corporate corruption. ciaobaby Jun 2016 #4
It's not so much that we need to "revisit" corporate corruption, it's that it's ongoing. villager Jun 2016 #6
Exactly right. EV_Ares Jun 2016 #14
And soon criticizing it will get you a hide. zeemike Jun 2016 #41
Derp. HuckleB Jun 2016 #59
I suppose that means something but I forgot what. zeemike Jun 2016 #104
That would explain your bizarre paranoia. HuckleB Jun 2016 #105
It explains my lack of knowledge of the urban dictionary. zeemike Jun 2016 #108
I doubt that. HuckleB Jun 2016 #109
I'm sure you do. zeemike Jun 2016 #112
My opinion has evidence to support it. HuckleB Jun 2016 #114
An opinion with evidence to support it. zeemike Jun 2016 #118
You would have support something for it to matter. HuckleB Jun 2016 #119
For it matter? you lost me there. zeemike Jun 2016 #123
It's not hard to lose you. HuckleB Jun 2016 #129
Well I am mono lingual. zeemike Jun 2016 #130
Gee, I thought you were criticizing Hillary. Hortensis Jun 2016 #63
If it is attached to Hillary yes zeemike Jun 2016 #103
Oh, you mean if it's really an attack on her? Hortensis Jun 2016 #106
Exactly...any criticism of her is an attack. zeemike Jun 2016 #110
That might be just a little TOO optimistic. Hortensis Jun 2016 #113
Well, that explains it. HuckleB Jun 2016 #115
People who are afraid of debate. zeemike Jun 2016 #117
What debate? HuckleB Jun 2016 #120
Yes. the use of passive aggressive on a board. zeemike Jun 2016 #121
So you can't respond. HuckleB Jun 2016 #122
I did, but you did not get it. zeemike Jun 2016 #124
Umm. No, and no. HuckleB Jun 2016 #128
Besides, the convention hasn't even happened yet! Dustlawyer Jun 2016 #133
+1 azmom Jun 2016 #153
This is so sad, she is the weakest candidate ever. DemMomma4Sanders Jun 2016 #33
Fantasy is cool! HuckleB Jun 2016 #116
Theres nothing fantastic about it, its begun. DemMomma4Sanders Jun 2016 #131
I guess BP was busy destroying another whole American region fasttense Jun 2016 #136
If this were about ANY Republican, regardless of stature Cassiopeia Jun 2016 #34
It has been an outrage for decades. pangaia Jun 2016 #43
But, but, but, Stryder Jun 2016 #79
The devil comes in may guises. :>))) pangaia Jun 2016 #81
And has the power Stryder Jun 2016 #88
me2 never, ever x100 840high Jun 2016 #107
You may not realize it hueymahl Jun 2016 #145
Comcast is hrc biggest donor. no surprise there. roguevalley Jun 2016 #148
Benjamins! merrily Jun 2016 #2
More attacking of the DNC? Yeah, that's worked for Bernie and his followers so far. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #3
Are we supposed to not mention the fact of what kind of a company Comcast is or the fact that the EV_Ares Jun 2016 #15
Any mention of anything that goes against the Party RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #39
SPOT ON... Following The Pied Piper Is Just Soooooooo ChiciB1 Jun 2016 #52
Spot on RoccoR tomg Jun 2016 #66
Tough bird turd. Duval Jun 2016 #82
Ignore the bait. PatrynXX Jun 2016 #69
Happy with the status quo, I guess. elleng Jun 2016 #25
I prefer to think of it as changing the DNC shireen Jun 2016 #38
I tend to support doing the right thing over supporting labels. Gore1FL Jun 2016 #49
I'm not sure how any Democrat, regardless who they support, isn't outraged by the conduct of the DNC Chan790 Jun 2016 #111
Comcast Board Are Republican Activists billhicks76 Jun 2016 #138
SERIOUSLY.... SammyWinstonJack Jun 2016 #139
And MSNBC has been bending over backwards to support Hillary. TDale313 Jun 2016 #5
What in the complete fuck are these assholes thinking? onecaliberal Jun 2016 #7
I believe Hillary could go on the morning talk shows Cassiopeia Jun 2016 #36
Well to be fair, those puppies and kittens *were* asking for free stuff nt dorkzilla Jun 2016 #47
Only the poor kittens and puppies. Cassiopeia Jun 2016 #48
Pity kitties and puppies don't throw private $$$$$ donor parties Jackilope Jun 2016 #86
If Bernie had gotten enough votes to win the nomination ToxMarz Jun 2016 #54
Yeah, but I trust Bernie to say no to their requests. Cassiopeia Jun 2016 #64
No because Bernie would have thrown DWS out the door, and SHE is the one who changed the rule to onecaliberal Jun 2016 #97
What other facility in Philadelphia would have been a better choice? nt pnwmom Jun 2016 #56
It's eye opening, and totally heartbreaking, isn't it? Zorra Jun 2016 #96
I'd put Verizon and Blue Cross/Blue Shield WAY above them, personally... Blue_Tires Jun 2016 #8
Monsanto. Koch Industries! Hortensis Jun 2016 #10
I disagree scscholar Jun 2016 #23
Your gripe isn't with Comcast then, it is with the people that gave them that area. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #26
It's possibly to have a gripe with both. nt Gore1FL Jun 2016 #50
I think some big banks are definitely competitive nt Angel Martin Jun 2016 #76
just confirming the downfall of the DNC larkrake Jun 2016 #9
I just double checked our records and you don't have permission to use the HAL avatar snooper2 Jun 2016 #11
LOL larkrake Jun 2016 #16
I'm sorry, Dave. bvar22 Jun 2016 #35
I don't want to spoil your outrage... brooklynite Jun 2016 #12
Good for you, glad you have all that money. As for spoiling my EV_Ares Jun 2016 #17
...and I understand why you are an avid Hillary supporter. bvar22 Jun 2016 #42
Trump will take BETTER care of me; that's why I'm working so hard to elect Democrats... brooklynite Jun 2016 #44
LOL. bvar22 Jun 2016 #61
Publicly funded. Now there's an idea. Stryder Jun 2016 #91
How much will they be chipping in for the Convention? brooklynite Jun 2016 #92
Maybe Stryder Jun 2016 #98
We will recapture our democracy SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #152
Juxtaposition, the RNC is holding their Cleveland shindig in...Quicken Loans Arena Brother Buzz Jun 2016 #13
I can think of a S. Florida "Democrat" bucking for the keynote. Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #21
Two sides of the same coin. bvar22 Jun 2016 #40
Comcast is a horrible company, I would be embarrassed to have them at my convention. Rex Jun 2016 #18
True & they should be embarrassed with having Debbie Wasserman Schultz as the head of EV_Ares Jun 2016 #20
Fealty is not enough. One must demonstrate it to all. Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #19
They are only outing themselves felix_numinous Jun 2016 #22
When money is speech, poverty is silence. Scuba Jun 2016 #24
It takes money to hold a convention. I don't recall hearing Sanders say that he would chip in to Trust Buster Jun 2016 #27
I'm sure Sanders would have no trouble finding a proper venue for the Democratic Party Revival. bvar22 Jun 2016 #37
So selling out is the best option because the candidate you don't like won't foot the bill? Gore1FL Jun 2016 #55
How do you suggest they raise the money ? Trust Buster Jun 2016 #89
I am not a convention fundraising expert. I am not a sellout, though, either Gore1FL Jun 2016 #126
I wonder if they threatened to pull out if Hillary didn't win the nomination Doctor_J Jun 2016 #28
Yeah, you are right about that. Also, love how the Hillary supporters justify having a company like EV_Ares Jun 2016 #29
Corporate hq is in Philly. xmas74 Jun 2016 #30
It is sponsored by corporations Geronimoe Jun 2016 #46
That's any large event. xmas74 Jun 2016 #154
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalArkie Jun 2016 #31
Ouch! mac56 Jun 2016 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalArkie Jun 2016 #51
Well, yeah! mac56 Jun 2016 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalArkie Jun 2016 #60
How does it mean that, in any way, shape or form? HuckleB Jun 2016 #58
Just shows which "people" the party is for these days Bettie Jun 2016 #45
In what other Philadelphia facility should they hold this event? n/t pnwmom Jun 2016 #53
What these conventions have turned into needs to be highlighted & how they are run because these EV_Ares Jun 2016 #68
Are you acknowledging that there is no other appropriate Philly venue? nt pnwmom Jun 2016 #71
Absolutely not. The DNC knew what they were doing when they chose this venue way back when. EV_Ares Jun 2016 #72
What Philly venue should have been chosen instead? pnwmom Jun 2016 #74
Why did it have to be Philly? EV_Ares Jun 2016 #85
Here's why. pnwmom Jun 2016 #90
Exactly my point, they had plenty of time to figure it all out. EV_Ares Jun 2016 #141
Why start there? Why did they chose Philly in the first place? n/t A Simple Game Jun 2016 #142
Lincoln Financial Field Rex Jun 2016 #99
That site says it can only handle 5,000 convention attendees. pnwmom Jun 2016 #100
The entire place can hold 70,000 people. Rex Jun 2016 #155
They can only hold a convention with 5,000. I showed you where they say that. pnwmom Jun 2016 #157
If this was a Facebook post xmas74 Jun 2016 #158
Thank you. You're right. Handling a several day convention is nothing like handling pnwmom Jun 2016 #159
It's about transportation and hotels and xmas74 Jun 2016 #160
It's like a separate little city just flew in, but only for a few days. pnwmom Jun 2016 #161
When I've worked events I've told my kid xmas74 Jun 2016 #163
It's the "New" Democratic Party brought to you by..'fill in the blank'. jalan48 Jun 2016 #62
I know a domain where Dem bashing is welcomed. Freeperville. L. Coyote Jun 2016 #65
Even if criticism is the same as stating what the problem is.... SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #165
Before Long Elections SDJay Jun 2016 #67
Comcast is the enemy of net neutrality. Hope you enjoy the internet after Hillary has done away JDPriestly Jun 2016 #70
Good point. EV_Ares Jun 2016 #73
Yup nt riderinthestorm Jun 2016 #93
Well just what do you expect? Of course they want Comcast to host the party. After all A Simple Game Jun 2016 #144
Well, that's who the Democratic party represents now. So it's fitting. CharlotteVale Jun 2016 #75
Like they did when the Convention was here in NC. Lee-Lee Jun 2016 #77
That's true. Duval Jun 2016 #87
If you don't like it you should go find another party to associate with Gman Jun 2016 #78
spoken like the "we're tak'n over"...... SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #166
I thought EA was the most hated company? N/t actslikeacarrot Jun 2016 #80
Has Public Citizen or Craig Holman offered to foot the bill? tirebiter Jun 2016 #83
Oh, please. It's their constituency. The ones who still have enough money for cable from the jtuck004 Jun 2016 #84
Why must the DNC suck so much? Vote2016 Jun 2016 #94
Why does this writer lie so blatantly? Why should we give him any credence pnwmom Jun 2016 #95
And yet Sanders still intends to attend the convention stopbush Jun 2016 #101
Perfectly nauseating warrprayer Jun 2016 #102
Bad. ananda Jun 2016 #125
US Uncut, the Bern supporters' site shenmue Jun 2016 #127
Figures! avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #132
Have you looked at the sponsors of the arenas where Sanders has held rallies, or... George II Jun 2016 #134
Have you looked at Sanders rallies? SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #156
A 0.52 second Google got me this: George II Jun 2016 #162
I dunno? SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #167
No surprise, given M$NBCComcast's deep dive into conservaspin. nt valerief Jun 2016 #135
Huh, usually they have to dance with the Re-Pukkke-licans librechik Jun 2016 #137
HRC is TIED with the worst candidate the GOP has produced... modestybl Jun 2016 #140
I'm outraged that visitors to Philly should be given Yankees tickets. n/t malthaussen Jun 2016 #143
Say goodbye to Net Neutrality. n/t TonyPDX Jun 2016 #146
I thought Monsanto was "America's Most Hated Company" Nitram Jun 2016 #147
It is, but it doesn't fit the "Hate the DNC" narrative in this particular bile-fest. OnDoutside Jun 2016 #164
BINGO! Nitram Jun 2016 #171
Monsanto is much worst than Comcast. n/t Herman4747 Jun 2016 #149
Anyone have some butter? I'm out. Initech Jun 2016 #150
I think Monsanto is hated apcalc Jun 2016 #151
That just hit my upchuck reflex! SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #168
Monsanto strikes me as leaning GOP (no text) Quantess Jun 2016 #169
Monsanto's concerns are the Farm Bill, IP, and GMO regulations Recursion Jun 2016 #170
 

ciaobaby

(1,000 posts)
4. Revisiting corporate corruption.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:28 PM
Jun 2016

It's all so out in the open now because Hillary and Co. promise that just because corporations pay for access, that in no way does means they will get anything out of it.
That's what is truly sad.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
6. It's not so much that we need to "revisit" corporate corruption, it's that it's ongoing.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:30 PM
Jun 2016

to the point where folks here who imagine themselves "progressive" contemptuously dismiss it even being brought up -- since they've grown so familiar with it.

Sad.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
41. And soon criticizing it will get you a hide.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:11 PM
Jun 2016

That is how it is made normal...get liberals to defend it...no need to get the GOP to, they invented it.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
108. It explains my lack of knowledge of the urban dictionary.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 08:57 PM
Jun 2016

But I am sure it can explain anything you want it to explain.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
118. An opinion with evidence to support it.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:12 PM
Jun 2016

But that's the thing...yours is golden and mine don't mean shit...to you.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
63. Gee, I thought you were criticizing Hillary.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:39 PM
Jun 2016

So you really think criticizing corporations will get you a hide?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
106. Oh, you mean if it's really an attack on her?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 08:39 PM
Jun 2016

Yes. So what? There are tons of forums where the bile runs hip-deep if this place becomes intolerable.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
110. Exactly...any criticism of her is an attack.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:00 PM
Jun 2016

And that soon enough will get you banned...and DU will then be a happy place.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
113. That might be just a little TOO optimistic.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:04 PM
Jun 2016

Good thing. Who'd want to hang around a happy political forum?

Dustlawyer

(10,539 posts)
133. Besides, the convention hasn't even happened yet!
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:04 PM
Jun 2016

How is that so 15 minutes ago? We know the Republicans have done this crap for decades and Democrats used to pride ourselves that we were the Party of the people. Now we have Hillary supporters who act like it's no big deal. That's how you know the corruption has spread when Democratic supporters act like Republican supporters because they are OK with it!

I will NEVER BE OK WITH IT!!!

 

DemMomma4Sanders

(274 posts)
33. This is so sad, she is the weakest candidate ever.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:53 PM
Jun 2016

Im personally going to make it a priority to clear the DNC of dinosaurs after this cycle is complete....after Hillary hands trump the presidency because she can't possibly grab he demographics Obama did, which she needs, to clinch the presidency.

 

DemMomma4Sanders

(274 posts)
131. Theres nothing fantastic about it, its begun.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:42 PM
Jun 2016

Progressive Cornel West is just the beginning. This guy will blow the whistle on any shenanigans he encounters.

ITS ALREADY BEGUN.

The future aint nothin to fear.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
136. I guess BP was busy destroying another whole American region
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:30 PM
Jun 2016

BP or Monsanto could have been worse but not by much.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
43. It has been an outrage for decades.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:14 PM
Jun 2016

That is why I would never, ever vote for another corporatist. I have sucked it up and done it too many times.


GO BERNIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stryder

(450 posts)
79. But, but, but,
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:14 PM
Jun 2016

If you don't, the Devil will be president!
And it will all be your fault.
(They really needed an asshole supreme to get away with it
this time and the GOP came through for them in spectacular fashion.)
Still, I can't say a part of me ain't screaming, "Let it all burn down."

hueymahl

(2,904 posts)
145. You may not realize it
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:59 PM
Jun 2016

but the use of "sad" as a comment is part of the rhetorical style used by Trump in dismissing comments. Not calling you a trump supporter or wanna-be, just pointing out that you may want to modify your style why that bag of orange feces is still in the news.

 

EV_Ares

(6,587 posts)
15. Are we supposed to not mention the fact of what kind of a company Comcast is or the fact that the
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:58 PM
Jun 2016

Chairman of the DNC is supporting Payday Loans. Seems to be a rather important issue.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
39. Any mention of anything that goes against the Party
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:06 PM
Jun 2016

will be treated as TREASON, and you shall be hanged by the toes until dead.
You are not to question ANY of the motives of the Democratic NOT Committee, as they only have the best corporate interests in their concern. You are only to follow them lock step all the way to the convention, to the election, then down the tubes after they lose in November, as they have so many times before.
They fail to run REAL Democrats. If we want RepubliCON lite, we will vote for REAL Republicans. They have given enough away to the banking industry, the healthcare industry, and other industries that donate to their campaigns.

So just follow lock step all the way into the abyss, or get thrown under the bus, as so many have had done to them.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
52. SPOT ON... Following The Pied Piper Is Just Soooooooo
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:27 PM
Jun 2016

IN FASHION THESE DAYS! From Banks, Pharma, Insurance... OMG too many places to list! It's where we're at and UNFORTUNATELY the POWER BROKERS have so many by the short hairs!

Oh, and don't forget about Saudi Arabia... If ANYONE has watched the latest Series of House off Cards might do well to remember the last word they said... FEAR!

Amazing that this fictional TV Show seems so very REAL!! Husband and wife, running for a SECOND term (not there yet with Clintons) and see things unraveling decide to USE FEAR as a means to win!!

OLIGARCHY??? Getting close to MONARCHY! Time to practice how to bow and curtsy, maybe?

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
82. Tough bird turd.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:20 PM
Jun 2016

I just answered emails from the DNC and Pelosi, telling them what I think about this election and their handling of it. I, and my husband, have been astounded at their underhanded tricks. And they WILL lose, if Hillary is the nominee.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
69. Ignore the bait.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:55 PM
Jun 2016

Just Hillary Trolls trying to get a reaction. This isn't the DNC underground. DNC is pretty much dead thanks to DWS. Hoping her opponent can rebuild it.

shireen

(8,340 posts)
38. I prefer to think of it as changing the DNC
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:05 PM
Jun 2016

We, the people, should be the ones that influence how they operate, not big corporate sponsors. I think that's something most of us can agree on.

Gore1FL

(22,951 posts)
49. I tend to support doing the right thing over supporting labels.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:24 PM
Jun 2016

If the DNC does RNC-like things, then, yes, they need to be criticized.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
111. I'm not sure how any Democrat, regardless who they support, isn't outraged by the conduct of the DNC
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:01 PM
Jun 2016

...on a daily basis. This is the most inept and corrupt political organization I have ever witnessed...you know you're bad when you make Rinse Penis and the RNC look like a professionally-run, ethical organization. DWS doesn't deserve to lose her job because she's partisan...she deserves to lose her job because in-comparison...


she makes this guy looks like a restrained and competent administrator.


...and she makes this guy look ethical.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
138. Comcast Board Are Republican Activists
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:45 PM
Jun 2016

They wouldn't even allow MSNBC to be part of the basic cable package for years. Are you even paying attention?

TDale313

(7,822 posts)
5. And MSNBC has been bending over backwards to support Hillary.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:28 PM
Jun 2016

The whole system is so fucking incestuous it's disgusting.

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
7. What in the complete fuck are these assholes thinking?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:31 PM
Jun 2016

Seriously, and her supporters think this is just fucking fine because WHAT? I really want to know, if there nothing over the god damn line for you people.

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
36. I believe Hillary could go on the morning talk shows
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:57 PM
Jun 2016

and announce that she drowns puppies and kittens for nothing more than joy and some here would celebrate the announcement.

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
48. Only the poor kittens and puppies.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:21 PM
Jun 2016

I'm sure the 1%er kittens and puppies deserved to be spared and all the free stuff they get.

Jackilope

(819 posts)
86. Pity kitties and puppies don't throw private $$$$$ donor parties
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:25 PM
Jun 2016

They deserve to be cast outs and throw aways.

ToxMarz

(2,931 posts)
54. If Bernie had gotten enough votes to win the nomination
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:30 PM
Jun 2016

Comcast would still an honored guest at his nominating convention. Yet this too is Hillary doing. He chose to run as a Democrat.

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
97. No because Bernie would have thrown DWS out the door, and SHE is the one who changed the rule to
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:28 PM
Jun 2016

allow lobbyists to fund the convention, because they have pissed off so many people they didn't have enough money.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
96. It's eye opening, and totally heartbreaking, isn't it?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:19 PM
Jun 2016

We totally had no idea how bad it really is, did we?

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
23. I disagree
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:17 PM
Jun 2016

I live in an area in Seattle that has given Comcast a monopoly, and they don't offer service to their entire monopoly area. That's pretty evil to block competition then refuse to provide service.

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
26. Your gripe isn't with Comcast then, it is with the people that gave them that area.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:22 PM
Jun 2016

They can make them do things differently when the contract period ends. This is the same situation that has been going on around the country since cable TV started popping up.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
11. I just double checked our records and you don't have permission to use the HAL avatar
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:48 PM
Jun 2016

Please cease and desist before further action is taken-


 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
12. I don't want to spoil your outrage...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:49 PM
Jun 2016

...but they're holding this at the Wells Fargo arena because that happens to be the arena in town.

...and they're offering those goodies to anyone who can cough up big $$...I'm one of them (I'm in a lower tier, but the base packages are the same). No corporate involvement, no secret requests to whisper in the candidates' ears. Just supporting the Party and enjoying the show.

Yes, we'd all like to have publicly funded elections, but at the moment we don't; how much would you be willing to chip in as an alternative.

 

EV_Ares

(6,587 posts)
17. Good for you, glad you have all that money. As for spoiling my
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:01 PM
Jun 2016

outrage, don't worry about that & it is not just my outrage.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
42. ...and I understand why you are an avid Hillary supporter.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:13 PM
Jun 2016

She will take care of you.

When I was a child, probably 7 or so, my father pointed to the portrait of FDR that hung in our living room, and said to me that I owed him EVERYTHING. Without FDR, the Father of the Modern Democratic Party, I would be the impoverished son of a tenant farmer in NE Texas.

He then said, "Son, if I ever catch you voting for or supporting a Republican, I will make you wish you had never been born....unless you have a $MILLION (1950s) Dollars in the bank...Then, and only then, will I understand."

So, I truly understand why you support Hillary.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
44. Trump will take BETTER care of me; that's why I'm working so hard to elect Democrats...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:15 PM
Jun 2016

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
61. LOL.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:35 PM
Jun 2016

You really think Trump will take care of YOU?
The only thing Trump will do for you is to try and take whatever you have by hook or crook.
Trump doesn't care about me. I'm a small fish, but (if we can believe what you post) YOU are a juicy Main Course.

Stryder

(450 posts)
98. Maybe
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:44 PM
Jun 2016

we could offer ad time like on those roll up banners around sports venues.
I don't mind them buying air time to sponsor an event.
I do however have a problem with them buying "access" (Too kind of a word)
to the candidates themselves. Access that Joe/saphine Public will never have.

 

SouthernDemLinda

(182 posts)
152. We will recapture our democracy
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:09 PM
Jun 2016

truthdig
drilling beneath the headlines
June 7, 2016

Shut Down the Democratic National Convention
Posted on Jun 5, 2016
By Chris Hedges

On July 25, opening day of the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia, Cheri Honkala, leader of the Poor People’s Economic Human Rights Campaign, who was denied a permit to march by city authorities, will rally with thousands of protesters outside City Hall. Defying the police, they will march up Broad Street to the convention.

We will recapture our democracy in the streets of cities such as Philadelphia, not in convention halls such as the aptly named Wells Fargo Center, where the Democratic Party elites intend to celebrate the results of the rigged primary elections and the continuity of corporate power.

Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein, other activists and I will march with Honkala. It is not as if we have a choice. No one invited us into the center or to the lavish corporate-sponsored receptions. No one anointed us to be Clinton superdelegates—a privilege that went to corporate lobbyists, rich people and party hacks. No one in the Democratic establishment gives a damn what we think.

The convention is not our party. It is their party. It costs a lot of money to attend. Donate $100,000 and you become an “empire” donor, with perks such as “VIP credentials for all convention proceedings,” along with tickets to lavish corporate and Party receptions, photo ops with politicians at the convention podium, four rooms at the Loews Philadelphia Hotel and a suite at a Yankees game, where a “special guest” will be present. Short of $100,000? You can become a “gold” donor for $50,000, a “silver” donor for $25,000 or a “bronze” donor for $10,000.

We have the best democracy money can buy. The Wells Fargo Center and the fancy hotels in Philadelphia will be swarming with corporate representatives and lobbyists from Comcast, Xerox, Google and dozens of other companies that manage our political theater.

Honkala, who was once homeless—she lived for a while out of cars, in abandoned houses and under bridges—and who was the Green Party’s vice presidential candidate in 2012, has long defied the elites on behalf of the marginalized and the poor. She led a protest at the 2000 Republican National Convention, (after being denied a permit for that as well), which saw 30,000 people shut down Philadelphia’s center over issues such as racial discrimination, police violence and poverty. She has fought for the homeless, the unemployed and the underemployed for three decades, through acts of civil disobedience —marches, the construction of tent cities and homeless encampments, and sit-ins—that often ended in arrests. She has been arrested more than 200 times.

She will be on the south side of Philadelphia’s City Hall at 3 p.m. on July 25, with or without a permit. And thousands for whom the Democratic Party is another face of the corporate enemy will be there with her.

(Contacts for the march are (215) 869-4753 or cherihonkalappehrc@gmail.com.)

“Philadelphia has a poverty rate of 26 percent,” she said when I reached her by phone. “It has the highest number of people who die from drug overdoses in the country. The city has not housed anyone within the homeless population within 10 months. It has lost its state certification for the Department of Human Services child protection agency because of gross negligence and substandard conditions for children. Foster kids are stuck in an abusive system. Hundreds are not being placed. And at the same time, the city will spend $43 million on security for the convention. It will spend upwards of $60 million to house millionaires and billionaires while it ignores the vulnerable and attempts, by denying us a permit to march, to render them invisible.”

She said that the difference between the march she led in 2000 and the one planned for July is that “things are four times worse.” She spoke about her north Philadelphia neighborhood, Kensington, the poorest district in the state. It has one of the highest homicide rates in the nation. It has a large homeless population. It has a poverty rate of 46.9 percent. The food bank is protected by barbed wire.

“Back then, someone could work three or even four jobs and barely survive,” she said. “I live in a neighborhood now of the permanently unemployed. There is an underground economy. We have to collectively keep each other alive. There are hundreds of young men who are not just attempting to live on a dollar a day, but go a couple of weeks with nothing. We try to figure out how to find food and housing. We try to figure out how to keep alive.”

The loss of faith in the political system and neoliberal ideology is widespread. The corporate elites are pouring $5 billion into the carnival of presidential electoral politics in a desperate bid to keep us mesmerized and controlled. Democracy is endlessly invoked on the airwaves to legitimize the corporate and political forces that have destroyed it. Congress has an approval rating of 11 percent. Half of qualified voters are not registered to vote, and half of registered voters do not go to the polls. A little more than half of 25 percent—no more than 15 percent—of the electorate determines who becomes president. And this is the way the elites want it.

In our system of inverted totalitarianism, the political philosopher Sheldon Wolin pointed out, the object is to demobilize the citizenry, to render it apathetic, to convince the citizen that all political activity that does not take place within the narrow boundaries defined by the corporate state is futile. This is a message hammered into public consciousness by the corporate media, which serve as highly paid courtiers to the corporate elites. It is championed by the two parties that offer up fear of the other as their primary political platform.

Shut Down the Democratic National Convention
Posted on Jun 5, 2016
By Chris Hedges
(Page 2)

Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton hold the highest candidate disapproval ratings in American history—in that order. These two candidates, the system insists, are the only “rational” options. Step outside the system and you are disappeared or ridiculed. Acceptable political opinions, as Wolin wrote, are “measurable responses to questions predesigned to elicit them.” We vote, in the end, for skillfully manufactured personalities. Neither Trump nor Clinton in office will hinder corporate hegemony. Nothing will change until we revolt, until we defy the corporate system, until we wake from our civic stupor. The goal of the elites is to keep us pacified.

“The crucial element that sets off inverted totalitarianism from Nazism is that while the latter imposed a regime of mobilization upon its citizenry, inverted totalitarianism works to depoliticize its citizens, thus paying a left-handed compliment to the prior experience of democratization,” Wolin wrote in “Politics and Vision.” “Where the Nazis strove to give the masses a sense of collective power and confidence, Kraft durch Freude (or ‘strength through joy’), the inverted regime promotes a sense of weakness, collective futility that culminates in the erosion of the democratic faith, in political apathy and the privatization of the self. Where the Nazis wanted a continuously mobilized society that would support its masters without complaint and enthusiastically vote ‘yes’ at the managed plebiscites, the elite of inverted totalitarianism wants a politically demobilized society that hardly votes at all.”

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
40. Two sides of the same coin.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:07 PM
Jun 2016

When I first heard that expression, I though it was a clever exaggeration.
Now, I know it is true.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
18. Comcast is a horrible company, I would be embarrassed to have them at my convention.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:02 PM
Jun 2016

However we know why they are there...MONEY.

 

EV_Ares

(6,587 posts)
20. True & they should be embarrassed with having Debbie Wasserman Schultz as the head of
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:05 PM
Jun 2016

the DNC. Miss Payday Loan herself.

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
22. They are only outing themselves
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:15 PM
Jun 2016

at this point, it has never been clearer where people stand on the most vital issues, and only strengthen people's resolve.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
27. It takes money to hold a convention. I don't recall hearing Sanders say that he would chip in to
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:27 PM
Jun 2016

cover the costs. His supporters live in a make believe world.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
37. I'm sure Sanders would have no trouble finding a proper venue for the Democratic Party Revival.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:59 PM
Jun 2016

Gore1FL

(22,951 posts)
55. So selling out is the best option because the candidate you don't like won't foot the bill?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:31 PM
Jun 2016

Makes total sense...

Gore1FL

(22,951 posts)
126. I am not a convention fundraising expert. I am not a sellout, though, either
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:53 PM
Jun 2016

If I were tasked to raise money, I work against my espoused values to do so.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
28. I wonder if they threatened to pull out if Hillary didn't win the nomination
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:31 PM
Jun 2016

Their networks have been one long pro Hillary stream for the entire campaign. I'm sure the thought of a Sanders presidency doesn't do much for such a loathsome corporation.

 

EV_Ares

(6,587 posts)
29. Yeah, you are right about that. Also, love how the Hillary supporters justify having a company like
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:36 PM
Jun 2016

Comcast having such a prominent role at the DNC Convention along with having the head of the DNC who has been fighting for the Payday Loan Companies. That is not what the DNC use to be about. How can they be critical of the RNC when they are as much a part of the corporate elite as they.

Also, they can continue to attack Sanders all they want. He may not be the nominee but he will be a force to be reckoned with & he & his supporters are not going away.

xmas74

(30,058 posts)
30. Corporate hq is in Philly.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:49 PM
Jun 2016

If the convention had been in KC, for example, the sponsors would be Sprint and AMC. They're hosting a major event and sponsorships are common with events of this level.

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
46. It is sponsored by corporations
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:16 PM
Jun 2016

because the DNC can't raise the money on its own. And it can't because it represents corporations and not the people.

xmas74

(30,058 posts)
154. That's any large event.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:37 PM
Jun 2016

A city fights for the chance to host's large events. They work with business leaders to get the funding to host.
I've worked in catering with event planners. This is common for most events on this scale. It's common for events on a smaller scale.

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Bettie

(19,704 posts)
45. Just shows which "people" the party is for these days
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:15 PM
Jun 2016

and the answer is not "human people" it is "corporate persons".

 

EV_Ares

(6,587 posts)
68. What these conventions have turned into needs to be highlighted & how they are run because these
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:47 PM
Jun 2016

corporations and their lobbyists see the national nominating conventions as ideal opportunities to buy access and influence with the presidential campaigns, lawmakers, and the party leaders. The conventions constitute a campaign media blitz for the campaigns, and a golden opportunity for lobbyists to extend their lobbying activity off Capitol Hill

On top of that when your DNC Chairman battles for Payday Loan companies, what does that tell you where the DNC priorities are anymore. It makes them no different than the RNC.

 

EV_Ares

(6,587 posts)
72. Absolutely not. The DNC knew what they were doing when they chose this venue way back when.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:04 PM
Jun 2016

pnwmom

(110,261 posts)
100. That site says it can only handle 5,000 convention attendees.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 08:03 PM
Jun 2016

The Democratic convention will have 50,000.

http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/news/2015/02/12/philadelphia-will-host-the-2016-
democratic.html

The Democratic convention will be a huge boon for the city, with thousands of people, media and economic impact expected to come to Philadelphia and the surrounding areas. The DNC anticipates 50,000 attendees, filling up to 80,000 hotel room-nights, based on projections from its 2008 convention in Denver.

http://events.lincolnfinancialfield.com/about/faqs.html

What are the capacity ranges for the rooms inside Lincoln Financial Field?
Lincoln Financial Field is adaptable to accommodate events of all sizes, from as small as five people to as large as 5000.

pnwmom

(110,261 posts)
157. They can only hold a convention with 5,000. I showed you where they say that.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:48 PM
Jun 2016

There is more involved with a convention than there is sitting people down for a game.

It lasts for several days, not several hours, and the people need to be fed and otherwise taken care of. And there need to be adequate meeting rooms for separate meetings that need to take place -- not just a large stadium space.


http://events.lincolnfinancialfield.com/about/faqs.html

What are the capacity ranges for the rooms inside Lincoln Financial Field?

Lincoln Financial Field is adaptable to accommodate events of all sizes, from as small as five people to as large as 5000.

xmas74

(30,058 posts)
158. If this was a Facebook post
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:50 PM
Jun 2016

You'd get a like.

Posters blowing this way out of proportion have never dealt with the logistics of an event of this size. I've worked Big 12 Tournament and American Royal with caterers and I only saw the small side. It was massive. No way an entire city could handle an event if this scale without sponsors.

pnwmom

(110,261 posts)
159. Thank you. You're right. Handling a several day convention is nothing like handling
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:53 PM
Jun 2016

a several hour football game. It isn't just about having a large seating capacity in a stadium.

xmas74

(30,058 posts)
160. It's about transportation and hotels and
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:54 PM
Jun 2016

Restaurants and shopping. Entertainment and arts.

The logistics are massive.

pnwmom

(110,261 posts)
161. It's like a separate little city just flew in, but only for a few days.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:56 PM
Jun 2016

I can imagine what a massive impact that would have.

xmas74

(30,058 posts)
163. When I've worked events I've told my kid
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:20 PM
Jun 2016

I'd see her in a week. She stays with family because I'm not home. It's chaotic, dirty, loud,exhausting-and sometimes worth it. I've paid off debt, paid ahead on bills and given my kid something I couldn't afford otherwise.

The people working the event don't care who sponsors. They see this as the first job in months, a second job to pay down debt, a job to buy school supplies and clothes or even Christmas. Teens will have opportunity to work.

It's good for the city.

jalan48

(14,914 posts)
62. It's the "New" Democratic Party brought to you by..'fill in the blank'.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:38 PM
Jun 2016

What's good for multinational corporations is good for the Democratic Party.

L. Coyote

(51,134 posts)
65. I know a domain where Dem bashing is welcomed. Freeperville.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:41 PM
Jun 2016

Take this stuff over there and you'll get more sympathy. :elephant tears:

 

SouthernDemLinda

(182 posts)
165. Even if criticism is the same as stating what the problem is....
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:30 PM
Jun 2016

You don't have a point, not even and idiotic one.

Free speech is one of our most fundamental rights in a democracy. It means the freedom to criticize without fear of reprisal. Of course, something that is totally corrupt can't stand most criticism, so they try to silence critics, institute thought control and censorship.

Our right to speak out against any kind of corruption is what freedom of speech is about. It is more important than someone getting their toes stepped on and should be protected above anything else.

SDJay

(1,089 posts)
67. Before Long Elections
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:44 PM
Jun 2016

will be sponsored as well.

"IT'S THE ELECTION OF 2024! BROUGHT TO YOU BY BUDWEISER, THE KING OF BEERS!"

Incidentally, that gawd-awful 'beer' that is Budweiser is changing its name to "America" for the summer. That's right - America. I think if I were the CEO of some other swill beer like Miller Lite I'd change it to "Jesus Christ" just to see what happens.

Don't think we're THAT far off from this whole democracy thing slipping just a bit further into the realm of total and open farce.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
70. Comcast is the enemy of net neutrality. Hope you enjoy the internet after Hillary has done away
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:57 PM
Jun 2016

with net neutrality.

How do Hillary supporters propose to save net neutrality now that Comcast has nearly bought the Democratic Party?

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
144. Well just what do you expect? Of course they want Comcast to host the party. After all
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:38 PM
Jun 2016

they did offer to provide the next Presumptive President a private email server at any undisclosed location of her choice.

Now there's an offer nobody could refuse.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
77. Like they did when the Convention was here in NC.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:10 PM
Jun 2016

When the DNC was here in Charlotte they financed it with a massive "loan" from Duke Energy, our states worst polluter.

And when the loan came due the DNC defaulted and Duke quietly wrote it off as a bad debt- because it was never really a loan but by calling it that they could say it wasn't a corporate "donation" before the convention and it let Duke get a bigger tax break because they got to write off a massive political donation as a bad debt.

Remember how they were billing the 2012 convention as "corporate money free"? Yeah, that was a lie made possible by them calling the millions from Duke a "loan" that they knew, wink wink, wouldn't be paid back.

http://m.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/03/democratic-convention-corporate-money-duke-energy-loan

Gman

(24,780 posts)
78. If you don't like it you should go find another party to associate with
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:14 PM
Jun 2016

Apparently the Democratic Party is not for you. There's lots out there to choose from. Go on, now.

 

SouthernDemLinda

(182 posts)
166. spoken like the "we're tak'n over"......
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:40 PM
Jun 2016

Mess with me, and you mess with the whole trailer park.

tirebiter

(2,699 posts)
83. Has Public Citizen or Craig Holman offered to foot the bill?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:20 PM
Jun 2016

C'mon pony up. Local workers gotta get paid. Better from deep pockets.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
84. Oh, please. It's their constituency. The ones who still have enough money for cable from the
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:22 PM
Jun 2016

absolute masters of disgusting service. Down and dirty with comcast and the dnc.


I think I will eat. Pigs in a Blanket.

pnwmom

(110,261 posts)
95. Why does this writer lie so blatantly? Why should we give him any credence
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:17 PM
Jun 2016

when he says stuff like this:

"Given that the 2016 Democratic nomination will likely come down to superdelegate ballots, this means corporate lobbyists will be among those casting the final ballots."


Hillary will have the majority of PLEDGED delegates by tomorrow -- 2026 pledged delegates, based on the millions of diverse voters who voted for her across the country.

The supers will be the icing on the cake. Her win won't hinge on the super-delegates.

Bernie is the only candidate whose path has become impossible unless he manages to flip hundreds of supers over to his side.

stopbush

(24,808 posts)
101. And yet Sanders still intends to attend the convention
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 08:06 PM
Jun 2016

even though he knows full well about Comcast's involvement.

George II

(67,782 posts)
134. Have you looked at the sponsors of the arenas where Sanders has held rallies, or...
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:06 PM
Jun 2016

...the vendors that Sanders used throughout the campaign?

 

SouthernDemLinda

(182 posts)
156. Have you looked at Sanders rallies?
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:44 PM
Jun 2016

Watch 'A Future to Believe In' Rally:
www.truthdig.com/.../bernie_sanders_draws_thousands_at_a_fu...

truthdigdrilling
beneath the headlines

Posted on May 24, 2016
By Emma Niles

A Crowd of Thousands at Bernie Sanders' 'A Future to Believe In' Rally

Thousands turned out to see the Democratic presidential candidate speak at Santa Monica High School in Santa Monica, Calif. Truthdig columnist Bill Blum attended the event and captured photos and videos.

He spent over an hour discussing climate change, campaign finance reform, health care, education and the current political atmosphere.

The California primary is only eight days away, and Bernie Sanders isn’t slowing down.
If anything, the 74-year-old Vermont Senator is picking up the pace as he tours California this week, stopping at as many as three cities a day for rallies and events.

On Monday night, Sanders held a rally on the football field of Santa Monica High School in Santa Monica, Calif. The Sanders campaign estimated a turnout of 10,000 people—and the numbers may have swelled to more than that, considering the vast numbers of people who turned up but couldn’t fit inside the football field. Sanders told ABC News that he hopes to speak with “200,000 Californians at rallies statewide.”



George II

(67,782 posts)
162. A 0.52 second Google got me this:
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:05 PM
Jun 2016
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/bernie-sanders-rallies-thousands-at-seattles-keyarena/

Bernie Sanders rallies thousands at Seattle’s KeyArena

KeyArena is named for Cleveland-based KeyCorp, the parent of KeyBank - BIG BANK.

WALL STREET! KeyCorp - NYSE: KEY !!!!!

No need for me to go much further. KeyArena is the Seattle equivalent of the Philadelphia Comcast Center, both named for large corporations.
 

SouthernDemLinda

(182 posts)
167. I dunno?
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:50 PM
Jun 2016

KeyArena (formerly Washington State Pavilion, Washington State Coliseum and Seattle Center Coliseum) is a multi-purpose arena in Seattle, Washington.

KeyArena was the first publicly financed arena in the area to be fully supported by earned income from the building.
Following the 2008 settlement with the SuperSonics after relocation to Oklahoma City, KeyArena finances were bolstered for several years by a settlement fund but the current level of activity and revenue leaves little reserve beyond basic building.

In 2008, AEG Facilities entered into a partnership with the City of Seattle that called for the Los Angeles-based international sports, entertainment and venue organization to provide support services, including event programming, sponsorship and premium seating sales, mareketing and advertising . AEG Facilities operates KeyArena for the city.

librechik

(30,957 posts)
137. Huh, usually they have to dance with the Re-Pukkke-licans
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:30 PM
Jun 2016

because Republicans own all the big broadcast/all venues in any given city. Glad to know there's something else to be outraged about


 

modestybl

(458 posts)
140. HRC is TIED with the worst candidate the GOP has produced...
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:14 PM
Jun 2016

... maybe going the corporate whore route may not be a great long-term strategy for the Dems...

 

SouthernDemLinda

(182 posts)
168. That just hit my upchuck reflex!
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 08:28 PM
Jun 2016

Where to begin? Oh well, I guess being an asshole does make some people successful.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
170. Monsanto's concerns are the Farm Bill, IP, and GMO regulations
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 06:26 AM
Jun 2016

The Farm Bill is a famously (notoriously) bipartisan boondoggle (though it at least includes SNAP). Intellectual property is at least notionally "our" wheelhouse rather than the GOP's. GMO regulations neither national party cares much about but both have to occasionally throw a (organic) bone to the 20% or so of their base who are convinced these things are the First Horseman.

Anyways, point is they have things they like and dislike about both national parties.

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