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pnwmom

(108,925 posts)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:55 PM Jun 2016

Meet the Swedish heroes, the grad students who tackled the Stanford rapist

https://www.buzzfeed.com/emaoconnor/meet-the-two-swedish-men-who-caught-brock-turner?utm_term=.sb6yo28Az#.ebMX0RDvb

Carl-Fredrik Arndt and Peter Jonsson, the two Swedish Ph.D. students who found Brock Turner sexually assaulting an unconscious woman behind a dumpster at Stanford, said they immediately knew something was wrong.

Nearly a year and a half ago Arndt and Jonsson were biking to a party on Stanford’s campus when they saw Turner, 20, on top of his victim behind a dumpster. They managed to tackle Turner as he ran away and they called the police.

The two men were key witnesses in the case against Turner, who was eventually found guilty of three counts of sexual assault and was sentenced by Judge Aaron Persky to three months of a six-month sentence in county jail with probation. He said a longer sentence in prison would have a “severe impact” on the Stanford athlete.

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“Thank you to the two men who saved me, who I have yet to meet,” the victim wrote. “I sleep with two bicycles that I drew taped above my bed to remind myself there are heroes in this story. That we are looking out for one another. To have known all of these people, to have felt their protection and love, is something I will never forget.”

Arndt was a teaching assistant at Stanford in math and engineering while getting his degree. He spent time at J.P. Morgan as research associate. Jonsson received his Master of Science degree in management science and engineering from Stanford in May. Previously he attended Uppsala University in Sweden for economics.
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Meet the Swedish heroes, the grad students who tackled the Stanford rapist (Original Post) pnwmom Jun 2016 OP
Good guys. Hope only great things happen for them. nt Ilsa Jun 2016 #1
Yeah, if it was consensual sex, why was he running away? Ilsa Jun 2016 #2
And what woman is going to consent to sex behind a dumpster? pnwmom Jun 2016 #4
you mean behind the dumpster isn't at the top of the list NewJeffCT Jun 2016 #56
more like three. apparently, they are already planning on time off for "good behaviour" niyad Jun 2016 #24
Ugh. Bet they'll count hours where he talks to high schools Saviolo Jun 2016 #40
This is basically... kag Jun 2016 #44
^^^ This. Most folks who drink don't rape. The devil is You. Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #57
I sincerely hope that he gets his ass beat daily MynameisBlarney Jun 2016 #47
Bravo! These two young men have restored my faith smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #3
Absolutely, Bless their hearts! I am still completely gobsmacked by the rapist's father's response: Raster Jun 2016 #6
OFFS. the father doesn't sound much better than the son! nt m-lekktor Jun 2016 #13
read daddy disgusting's letter to the judge. warning--have a bucket handy!! niyad Jun 2016 #27
His father is absolutely correct (or at least he should be correct) whopis01 Jun 2016 #49
They are good men. nt sheshe2 Jun 2016 #5
Did they get a lot of practice in Sweden recently, tackling rapists? Califonz Jun 2016 #7
No. They were able to tell instantly that a crime was being comitted. REP Jun 2016 #8
Apparently they practice using common sense and being brave in Sweden. nt pnwmom Jun 2016 #14
They need to teach a class in that FrodosPet Jun 2016 #42
Your question is confusing. Care to explain at length what you mean by it? Hekate Jun 2016 #16
I think Califonz is referring to the skyrocketing of rapes in Sweden Albertoo Jun 2016 #22
Skyrocketing rapes coinciding with the massive influx of midle eastern & north african immigrants Quantess Jun 2016 #33
I agree with you. radicalliberal Jun 2016 #51
That's what I had in mind too Albertoo Jun 2016 #59
That's a travesty, since there is a long-established, if fairly small, Jewish population in Sweden. Quantess Jun 2016 #61
Congrats shitty response award for the day Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #38
You're welcome. Califonz Jun 2016 #60
Evil prevails when good people fail to act IronLionZion Jun 2016 #9
True heroes ailsagirl Jun 2016 #10
Those Swedish students are the real men in this story demigoddess Jun 2016 #11
Completely agree with you Hekate Jun 2016 #17
If only the farther and son were half the men ... Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #39
Me too, Silver, Witch. kag Jun 2016 #45
He will become a pariah lunatica Jun 2016 #12
He's only serving zentrum Jun 2016 #15
apparently he was sentenced to six, but will be able to get out in three for "good behaviour" niyad Jun 2016 #26
The news outlets zentrum Jun 2016 #37
Does anyone know if he will have to even register as a sex offender? Stonepounder Jun 2016 #18
His father was saying that he did. He thought that was enough punishment. n/t pnwmom Jun 2016 #20
Be careful out there, guys. Jerry442 Jun 2016 #19
+1, The judge being one of them... freakin disgusting uponit7771 Jun 2016 #54
Would dear old dad call it "20 minutes of action" if it was his daughter being raped? keithbvadu2 Jun 2016 #21
Or his son, who will be wearing prison jumpsuit IronLionZion Jun 2016 #23
No, that would be "20 minutes of inaction" Gormy Cuss Jun 2016 #43
Perhaps, it's not so fanciful to imagine. It reflects a very low level of moral Joe Chi Minh Jun 2016 #48
thank you for posting this. nice to know a little bit about these two truly decent beings. niyad Jun 2016 #25
You're welcome. I'd wanted to know more about these wonderful young men pnwmom Jun 2016 #28
Yes, thank you!!!! BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2016 #30
I thank you, as well, pnwmom. kag Jun 2016 #46
I raised two sons. I have no doubt they would have done what these two good men did. mountain grammy Jun 2016 #29
I don't think anyone can be sure they'll be a hero in a crisis -- pnwmom Jun 2016 #31
Me too. redwitch Jun 2016 #55
I just wonder what Bill Cosby would have done if he had walked by and observed this woman avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #32
probably participated... and pleased that it didn't cost him a roofie. Raster Jun 2016 #41
Good for them! LeftishBrit Jun 2016 #34
They are Dorian Gray Jun 2016 #35
They are indeed. n/t pnwmom Jun 2016 #36
Judge Aaron Persky is an asshole who should be thrown off the bench! red dog 1 Jun 2016 #50
Heroes, both MrScorpio Jun 2016 #52
OK, why was it ONLY sexual assault and not a rape conviction? Also, how can the defendent... uponit7771 Jun 2016 #53
All the crap we hear about Florida. Oh, wait.... nt Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #58

Ilsa

(61,675 posts)
2. Yeah, if it was consensual sex, why was he running away?
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:02 PM
Jun 2016

In 6 months, women will have to give him a wide birth.

pnwmom

(108,925 posts)
4. And what woman is going to consent to sex behind a dumpster?
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:06 PM
Jun 2016

And she wasn't moving or speaking when the grad students arrived.

This case seems open and shut. That judge should be drummed out of office.

NewJeffCT

(56,827 posts)
56. you mean behind the dumpster isn't at the top of the list
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:48 PM
Jun 2016

of romantic destinations for young coeds?

Recent Polling
1) Paris
2) New York City
3) Hawaii
4) Behind the Dumpster
5) Italian Riviera

Saviolo

(3,268 posts)
40. Ugh. Bet they'll count hours where he talks to high schools
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:16 AM
Jun 2016

about the evils of drinking as community service. Barf.

Here's an idea, rapist asshole, don't tell students not to drink (which is legal), tell them not to rape!

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
47. I sincerely hope that he gets his ass beat daily
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 11:34 AM
Jun 2016

I normally don't condone violence, but I make exceptions for rapists and pedos.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
3. Bravo! These two young men have restored my faith
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:04 PM
Jun 2016

in humanity. It's nice to know that there are some decent men out there who will do the right thing when confronted with such a situation.

Raster

(20,996 posts)
6. Absolutely, Bless their hearts! I am still completely gobsmacked by the rapist's father's response:
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:15 PM
Jun 2016

(and I paraphrase slightly) "my son's life is ruined for 20 minutes of action."

whopis01

(3,467 posts)
49. His father is absolutely correct (or at least he should be correct)
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:49 PM
Jun 2016

His son's life should be ruined for that 20 minutes of action.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
42. They need to teach a class in that
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:57 AM
Jun 2016

We are suffering a severe shortage of common sense, integrity, honor, and courage in this nation.

Hekate

(90,189 posts)
16. Your question is confusing. Care to explain at length what you mean by it?
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:35 PM
Jun 2016

You think perhaps they IMAGINED a crime was in progress but that there was NOT a crime in progress?

Hmmmm.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
33. Skyrocketing rapes coinciding with the massive influx of midle eastern & north african immigrants
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 05:12 AM
Jun 2016

is what I'm guessing that poster is hinting at.

Edit to add: I live in Sweden. I'll say what that DUer was hinting about, out loud.

radicalliberal

(907 posts)
51. I agree with you.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:36 PM
Jun 2016

Please continue to speak out about the immigration mess. Don't let anyone discourage you.

I'm distressed to see what is now happening to Sweden, the wonderful country that gave us the great hero Raoul Wallenberg.

As for the rapist, his father, and the conscienceless judge, they're scum -- disgraces to humanity.

 

Albertoo

(2,016 posts)
59. That's what I had in mind too
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:54 PM
Jun 2016

A shame. Sweden used to be a very peaceful country.
Taking a stroll with a yarmulke in parts of Malmö appears to have become difficult..

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
61. That's a travesty, since there is a long-established, if fairly small, Jewish population in Sweden.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 06:35 PM
Jun 2016

A co-worker of mine is a Christian immigrant (10 years ago) from Lebanon, and she's worried about the huge influx of Muslims.

There already have been protests in the streets, in Sweden, between different immigrant ethnic populations from the middle east and north Africa.

The naiveté of the swedes, thinking that immigrants from wildly different cultures and with languages completely unrelated to swedish would be motivated to assimilate quickly and easily, because they just LOVE the swedish way of life! And will learn the swedish language quickly! (fat chance)

In many cases immigrants definitely add to the nation in a positive way, but unfortunately sweden's immigration policies are stupid in so many ways. The voters have had it, and are taking a sharp and sudden turn to RW nationalists, like much of the rest of europe.

Mostly, I want to kick this thread because of the gross, spoiled, entitled, rapist, Brock Turner who is too sad and victimized to eat his rib-eye steaks, after being caught and convicted of rape.

IronLionZion

(45,256 posts)
9. Evil prevails when good people fail to act
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:47 PM
Jun 2016

they saw something and did something to stop it. Good for them!

demigoddess

(6,640 posts)
11. Those Swedish students are the real men in this story
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:53 PM
Jun 2016

the judge and the perpetrator's father seem a little lacking in that department.

 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
39. If only the farther and son were half the men ...
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:11 AM
Jun 2016

This woman's life would not be ruined. Her letter to the judge broke my heart!

kag

(4,076 posts)
45. Me too, Silver, Witch.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:43 AM
Jun 2016

I read most of it through tears. If not for these brave Swedish men...I shudder to think.

And after reading I gave my eighteen-year old daughter a big hug.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
15. He's only serving
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:33 PM
Jun 2016

……three months of the six months ordered?

So the sentence is not even half a year?

This is the only place I've read that Judge Persky sentenced him to 3 months of the 6 month sentence. No other outlet has these numbers, that I'm aware of.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
18. Does anyone know if he will have to even register as a sex offender?
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 07:58 PM
Jun 2016

Or would that also have 'a severe impact' on a guy with a congenital case of affulenza?

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
43. No, that would be "20 minutes of inaction"
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:22 AM
Jun 2016

because it would be her fault that she got drunk and passed out. Just a guess.

eta on topic: I'm glad that these men are getting attention now. They saw rape, not "action."

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
48. Perhaps, it's not so fanciful to imagine. It reflects a very low level of moral
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:09 PM
Jun 2016

awareness, doesn't it ? Even most atheists, who are self-described dirt-worshippers, meatheads and apex monkeys, in reality, eschew the nihilism of the psychopath.

pnwmom

(108,925 posts)
28. You're welcome. I'd wanted to know more about these wonderful young men
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 10:18 PM
Jun 2016

and I thought others would be interested, too.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
30. Yes, thank you!!!!
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 10:56 PM
Jun 2016

Thankfully they were the right people there at the right time.

May they enjoy great lives; I wish that too for the brave eloquent woman who is living through this.

kag

(4,076 posts)
46. I thank you, as well, pnwmom.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:55 AM
Jun 2016

I was so touched when I read her letter. These men are the definition of heroes.

pnwmom

(108,925 posts)
31. I don't think anyone can be sure they'll be a hero in a crisis --
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:00 PM
Jun 2016

until they're faced with one.

These two men met the challenge.

 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
32. I just wonder what Bill Cosby would have done if he had walked by and observed this woman
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:54 AM
Jun 2016

being taken advantage of?

Dorian Gray

(13,469 posts)
35. They are
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 07:11 AM
Jun 2016

good, decent, humane, strong and loving men. We should all strive to raise our children to be such good, decent, humane, strong and loving people.

They did the right thing. That's something fewer people seem to be doing in today's world.

red dog 1

(27,647 posts)
50. Judge Aaron Persky is an asshole who should be thrown off the bench!
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:21 PM
Jun 2016

Only a 6-month sentence for rape?
Because "a longer sentence would have a 'severe impact' on Turner the rapist?

What about the "severe impact" the crime had on the victim?

Kudos to Arndt and Jonsson for their intervention...I wish them all the best!

K&R..Thanks for posting this, pnwmom!

uponit7771

(90,225 posts)
53. OK, why was it ONLY sexual assault and not a rape conviction? Also, how can the defendent...
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:51 PM
Jun 2016

... claim consensual sex with someone who was out of it and witness's to establish she was out of it.

This is a REALLY strange case if he got only 3 months.

Someone check the judges bank accounts no?

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