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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 12:38 PM Jun 2016

Ex-Stanford swimmer expected to leave jail 2 months early

http://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article/Ex-Stanford-swimmer-expected-to-leave-jail-2-7973102.php

A former Stanford University swimmer whose six-month sentence for sexually assaulting an unconscious woman ignited widespread outrage will leave jail two months early.

Online inmate records show 20-year-old Brock Turner is expected to be released from the Santa Clara County jail on Sept. 2. He was booked June 2.

County jail inmates serve 50 percent of their sentences if they keep a clean disciplinary record. Calls to the county Department of Correction weren't immediately returned Thursday.

Brock was convicted of attacking the woman he met at a fraternity party in January 2015 and was sentenced last week to six months in jail and three years' probation.


"Ex-Stanford swimmer"?!
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radicalliberal

(907 posts)
3. There are people who support this rapist punk.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:19 PM
Jun 2016

Some people actually believe that raping an unconscious woman really isn't rape. I guess if I came across a neatly dressed businessman passed out drunk in an alleyway somewhere, I'd have the right to help myself to the contents of his wallet.

We live in a sick society.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
5. Ex-Stanford, ex-swimmer.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:37 PM
Jun 2016

So, yeah.

As for the predilection of everybody to call him a rapist, he wasn't convicted of rape; they can call him a rapist, a clove of garlic, or the emanent incarnation of the penguin messiah for all they want, but when it comes to a newspaper there are things like libel and slander laws. Yeah, they apply to individuals, but nobody cares to charge us because we're not important enough.

Forcible penetration (he admitted to fingers) and attempted rape were the 3 convictions (the forcible penetration was twice--once for somebody intoxicated, once for that same somebody unconscious). The prosecutor dropped the rape charges. No evidence of penile penetration in all the ways there should have been evidence. Instead of "guilty in spite of no evidence because we think so," they went with "innocent until proven guilty, and there's no evidence of guilt for a charge of rape."

Somehow "Attempted rapist expected to leave jail two months early" doesn't carry much force, and would be unpalatable because so many firmly believe he's not just guilty of rape but actually convicted of rape. They're not all ready for the facts, such as they are.

Can't call him the "Forcible penetrator" because that sounds like a piece of equipment fire departments or police would have to getting into locked rooms or spaces. Or a rock band (sorry, Dave Barry).

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
7. Alleged Rapist would do just as well.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:47 PM
Jun 2016

Alleged Rapist would do just as well. Though I'm sure someone's bias would force them to rationalize otherwise as well.

lapislzi

(5,762 posts)
9. What exactly is your point here?
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:49 PM
Jun 2016

While I understand that the crimes for which this person was convicted do not meet the legal definition of "rape" (which apparently must involve a penis penetrating a vagina and leave its evidence behind in some fashion), why the insistence on semantics? Yes, I understand that newspapers and the media must concern themselves with libel law. Can we call him a "convicted sex offender?" "Convicted sexual assailant?" Are these terms correct in the legal sense? How about "the guy convicted of sexually assaulting an unconscious woman?" I know, it doesn't make for the catchiest headline, but that's what he is.

Just because the act didn't meet a legal criteria, doesn't make it not a rape. I'm sure if you asked the woman, she'd agree that she was raped. Just not by a penis. Things were stuck in her while she was unconscious. Maybe the law doesn't call that rape, but I do.

Seems like you're bending over backwards to give this miscreant a pass.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
13. The well connected are getting away with crimes the working class would spend 30 years in prison
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:32 PM
Jun 2016

over. This has my blood boiling.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
12. He didn't just attack her, he raped her unconscious body and was going to leave her behind a dumpster
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:31 PM
Jun 2016

So 3 months...

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