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womanofthehills

(8,698 posts)
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 05:14 PM Jun 2016

MONSANTO CAN'T deny the reality of science from Ring of Fire & their glyphosate taskforce



"Study after study is showing up these days that tell us that Monsanto’s Roundup is causing cancer and other extremely severe neurological defects. Monsanto adamantly denies all of these charges, but they cannot deny the reality of science. Ring of Fire’s Farron Cousins discusses this with attorney Howard Nations."


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MONSANTO CAN'T deny the reality of science from Ring of Fire & their glyphosate taskforce (Original Post) womanofthehills Jun 2016 OP
EU Refuses limited use of glyphosate womanofthehills Jun 2016 #1
Scientists with conflicts of interest, tainting pro-GMO research Scientific Jun 2016 #2
Five Reasons Monsanto’s ‘Science’ Doesn’t Add Up with great links womanofthehills Jun 2016 #3
The perversion of science by corporations is a great tragedy of our times. Scientific Jun 2016 #4
What about the chemtrails? Major Nikon Jun 2016 #11
BioMed Research International did some good work Scientific Jun 2016 #5
Yeah, like publishing Seralini Major Nikon Jun 2016 #14
Courts rule for Seralini. GMO execs guilty of defaming him Scientific Jun 2016 #15
Sure, and just because Wakefield also won a civil case, that also must mean vaccines cause autism Major Nikon Jun 2016 #16
Attempting to defend the perversion of science by dragging in unrelated issues is FAIL personified Scientific Jun 2016 #18
If you are intentionally trying to be ironic, you succeeded brilliantly Major Nikon Jun 2016 #19
Plague of glyphosate resistant superweeds drive up costs for GMO soybean farmers Scientific Jun 2016 #6
Indeed. CanSocDem Jun 2016 #7
A DEEPER LOOK AT THE VALIDITY OF HOMEOPATHY Major Nikon Jun 2016 #8
Are you lost??? CanSocDem Jun 2016 #12
Globalresearch? Major Nikon Jun 2016 #13
Globalresearch? Major Nikon Jun 2016 #10
The NAS also takes at least 50 times more from the oil industry, yet produced this... Major Nikon Jun 2016 #17
Study after study... Major Nikon Jun 2016 #9
I'm guessing "ring of fire" has nothing to do with the Johnny Cash song right? Initech Jun 2016 #20

womanofthehills

(8,698 posts)
1. EU Refuses limited use of glyphosate
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 05:24 PM
Jun 2016
Monsanto’s Roundup weedkiller could be taken down from shelves if EU remains undecided by end of June.


EU nations have refused to back a limited extension of the pesticide glyphosate’s use, threatening withdrawal of Monsanto’s Roundup and other weedkillers from shelves if no decision is reached by the end of the month.

Contradictory findings on the carcinogenic risks of the chemical have thrust it into the centre of a dispute among EU and US politicians, regulators and researchers.

The EU executive, after failing to win support in two meetings earlier this year for a proposal to renew the licence for glyphosate for up to 15 years, had offered a limited 12 to 18 month extension to allow time for further scientific study.

It hopes a study by the European Union’s Agency for Chemical Products (ECHA) will allay health concerns.

Despite the compromise, the proposal failed to win the qualified majority – the support of member states representing at least 65% of the EU’s population – needed for adoption, an EU official said.

Scientific

(314 posts)
2. Scientists with conflicts of interest, tainting pro-GMO research
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 06:07 PM
Jun 2016

Some people have been suckered into placing "science" up on a pedestal, as if it were somehow a human activity or institution above reproach.

But such is not the case - especially when it comes to GMOs, which at present rely so heavily on glyphosate herbicides.

GMO corporate scientists are indeed tainted. To protect themselves and their families, consumers should maintain a healthy skepticism about all the pro-GMO "science" that is tossed about with regularity and intensity by corporate agents, and also about the canonization of science in general. Science is in no way infallible, and in fact is as flawed as every other human institution.

Read and weep for the corruption of science, and the consequent corruption of our food:

"The National Research Council's ties to the biotech industry and other corporations create conflicts of interest and raise questions about the independence of their work."

https://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/insight/under-influence-national-research-council-and-gmos

womanofthehills

(8,698 posts)
3. Five Reasons Monsanto’s ‘Science’ Doesn’t Add Up with great links
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 07:16 PM
Jun 2016
1. Monsanto’s Roundup linked to fatal, chronic kidney disease. Article in Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health, February 2014

What happens when you mix glyphosate, the key active ingredient in Monsanto’s Roundup, with “hard” water? That is, water that contains metals, such as calcium, magnesium, strontium and iron, either found naturally in the soil, or resulting from the use of chemical fertilizers?

The glyphosate becomes “extremely toxic” to the kidneys.

That’s the theory put forth by researchers trying to uncover the mystery of thousands of deaths from chronic kidney disease among people in farming areas of Sri Lanka, El Salvador and Nicaragua.


2. Monsanto’s Roundup persists in soil and water. U.S. Geological Survey report in Environmental Toxicology and Chemistry, February 2014

Monsanto has always insisted (despite evidence to the contrary) that its Roundup herbicide is benign, that its toxicity doesn’t persist.

But that’s only half the story, according to a study published this month in Environmental Toxicology and Chemistry. Researchers now say that if you study only the key active ingredient, glyphosate, you might, as Monsanto claims, determine that Roundup is benign.

But there are other ingredients in Roundup, including one called Aminomethylphosphonic acid, or AMPA. The study, called “Pesticides in Mississippi air and rain: A comparison between 1995 and 2007,” found that glyphosate and its still-toxic byproduct, AMPA, were found in over 75 percent of the air and rain samples tested from Mississippi in 2007.

What does that mean for you? According to one analysis, “if you were breathing in the sampled air you would be inhaling approximately 2.5 nanograms of glyphosate per cubic meter of air. It has been estimated the average adult inhales approximately 388 cubic feet or 11 cubic meters of air per day, which would equal to 27.5 nanograms (billionths of a gram) of glyphosate a day.” Gasp.


3. GMO crops have led to an increase in use of pesticides and herbicides. U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) report, February 2014

The USDA, which gauging from its track record has never met a GMO crop it didn’t like, published a report substantiating what responsible, independent scientists have been saying along. Genetic engineering does not result in increased yields (as industry would have us believe)—but it has led to the increased (not decreased, as industry claims) use of pesticides and herbicides.

To be fair, the report gives overall favorable reviews to GMO crops. Not surprising, given the agency’s cozy relationship with Monsanto. But that makes it all the more telling that the once staunch-defender of GMO crops is now raising questions about industry’s long-term, decidedly unproven and unscientific, claims that biotechnology is the best thing since sliced (GMO wheat) bread.

Sustainable Pulse does a good job of sifting through the USDA’s report to reveal the agency’s criticisms of GMO crops.


4. Pesticides are more dangerous than we thought. Article in BioMed Research International, February 2014

More bad news on pesticides. A study published in BioMed Research International this month says that it’s not just the toxic chemicals we need to worry about in pesticides. It’s the inert ingredients, and how they interact with the active, toxic ingredients.

Typically, studies conducted to determine the safety of pesticides focus exclusively on the active ingredients. But scientists at the University of Caen tested eight commercial products, including Roundup, and found that nine of them were hundreds of times more toxic than their active ingredient alone.

Which product won the “Most Toxic” award? Monsanto’s Roundup, which was found to be “by far the most toxic of the herbicides and insecticides tested,” according to the study.


5. Small-Scale, organic farming needed to feed the world. U.N. Commission on Trade and Development (UNCTAD), Wake Up Before It Is Too Late, December 2013

In December 2013, the U.N. Commission on Trade and Development (UNCTAD) released the results of a lengthy, in-depth study that blows a huge hole in one of Monsanto’s favorite claims, that we need GMOs to feed the world. The study, entitledWake Up Before it is Too Late, concluded with this warning: Small-scale organic farming is the only way to feed the world.

According to an analysis by one of the report’s contributors, the report contains in-depth sections on the shift toward more sustainable, resilient agriculture; livestock production and climate change; the importance of research and extension; the role of land use; and the role of reforming global trade rules.


More than 60 experts from around the world contributed to the report.

Clearly the evidence—real, scientific evidence—against GMO crops is mounting, when five new anti-GMO studies and reports surface in a matter of a couple of months.

How much more will it take before the USDA, U.S. Food & Drug Administration and the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency stop supporting an industry under attack from the scientific community? And start putting public health before corporate profits?

In December, more than 200 scientists, physicians, and experts from relevant fields, signed a statement declaring that the biotech industry is deceiving the public when it claims that GMOs are safe. There is, the group said, no “scientific consensus” to support industry’s claims that GMOs are safe.

But as new studies surface every day, it’s become increasingly clear that among credible physicians and scientists, the consensus is that we’d better wake up, soon, to the risks and threats posed by a reckless technology that has been allowed to dominate our food and farming systems, unchecked, for far too long.










http://www.globalresearch.ca/5-reasons-monsantos-science-doesnt-add-up/5372440

Scientific

(314 posts)
4. The perversion of science by corporations is a great tragedy of our times.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 07:28 PM
Jun 2016

My heart aches for what corporations have done to science.

Perverted science, and those who promote it, do a great disservice to humanity.

Scientific

(314 posts)
5. BioMed Research International did some good work
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 09:04 PM
Jun 2016

The integrity of our beloved science has been dishonored: shat upon by corporations more interested in profit that truth, and willing to risk the health of the American public.

Scientific

(314 posts)
15. Courts rule for Seralini. GMO execs guilty of defaming him
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 10:48 AM
Jun 2016

As anyone who has followed the Seralini case knows, his research showing that GMOs can cause tumors in rats was accurate and valid.

It provoked a massive GMO corporate campaign to destroy him. His peer-reviewed paper on GMO and tumors was only retracted after a former Monsanto "scientist" was installed as editor of the journal, specifically to bury the truth.

GMO corporate trolls have been heaving spitballs at Seralini ever since. But this PERVERSION of science to corporate ends is - as a matter of fact - evil personified. Those who continue to promote lies about Seralini are also perverting science.

http://www.march-against-monsanto.com/scientist-who-discovered-gmos-cause-tumors-in-rats-wins-landmark-defamation-lawsuit-in-paris/

On November 25 (2015) the High Court in Paris indicted Marc Fallous, the former chairman of France’s Biomolecular Engineering Commission, for “forgery” and the “use of forgery.” The details of the case have not been officially released.

But according to this article from the Séralini website, Fallous used or copied the signature of a scientist whose name was used, without his agreement, to argue that Séralini and his co-workers were wrong in their studies on Monsanto products, including GM corn.A sentencing for Fallous is expected in June 2016.

"This was the second such court victory for the professor’s team, following a November 6 victory in a defamation lawsuit over an article in the French Marianne magazine which categorized the Séralini team research as “scientific fraud”.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
16. Sure, and just because Wakefield also won a civil case, that also must mean vaccines cause autism
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 11:36 AM
Jun 2016


http://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/seralini-gmo-article-vindicated-by-courts-absolutely-not/

Meanwhile even the IARC declared Seralini's research shit. Maybe he should sue them too.

Scientific

(314 posts)
18. Attempting to defend the perversion of science by dragging in unrelated issues is FAIL personified
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 01:05 PM
Jun 2016

Corporations which pervert science for profit, and then assign their corporate executives and trolls to launch slanderous attacks on qualified researchers who produce valid evidence of GMO harm, are poison to the body politic.

Seralini won two cases proving that GMO executives were slandering him to try and thwart public knowledge of how GMOs were causing tumors.

Somebody named Wakefield, as far as I know, has nothing to do with glyphsate, GMOs or the court-determined guilt of the GMO executive who lied about the validity of Seralini and his research.

Please do not defend the perversion of science to promote GMOs and glyphosate. It's not only wrong, its also dangerous for our health.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
19. If you are intentionally trying to be ironic, you succeeded brilliantly
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 01:10 PM
Jun 2016

Claiming a civil case that is wholly unrelated to the scientific validity of Seralini's pseudoscience, validates the "science" of Seralini's pseudoscience!

Scientific

(314 posts)
6. Plague of glyphosate resistant superweeds drive up costs for GMO soybean farmers
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 09:22 AM
Jun 2016

And drives up the use of herbicides.

"Glyphosate resistant weeds may also be the reason that herbicide usage in soybean fields in on the rise. The NASS survey showed that while soybean acres increased 30 percent from 3.95 million acres in 2006 to 5.15 million acres in 2015, total herbicide use increased 61 percent."

http://sustainablepulse.com/2016/06/02/us-gmo-soybean-farmers-expenses-shoot-up-over-glyphosate-resistant-superweeds/#.V1q-N2OOt0d

 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
7. Indeed.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 09:49 AM
Jun 2016

...from the link:

Jim Goodman, farmer, activist and member of the Organic Consumers Association policy advisory board, recently wrote about Monsanto’s deceptive use of the expression “sound science.”

But, ‘sound science’ has no scientific definition. It does not mean peer reviewed, or well documented research. ‘Sound science’ is only a term, an ideological term, used to support a particular point of view, policy statement or a technology. ‘Sound science’ is little more than the opinions of so-called “experts” representing corporate interests. Simply put, ‘sound science’ always supports the position of industry over people, corporate profit over food safety, the environment and public health.

Here are five new reports and studies, published in the last two months, that blow huge holes in Monsanto’s “sound science” story. Reports of everything from Monsanto’s Roundup causing fatal, chronic kidney disease to how, contrary to industry claims, Roundup persists for years, contaminating soil, air and water. And oh-by-the-way, no, GMO crops will not feed the world, nor have they reduced the use of herbicides and pesticides.




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CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
12. Are you lost???
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 10:25 AM
Jun 2016


We're talking about Monsanto here.

This is what makes bashing Monsanto so much fun. Their diehard supporters/paid staff are so discombobulated from all the free samples they've ingested that they are wandering around waving their canes at anything that moves.....

How much more will it take before the USDA, U.S. Food & Drug Administration and the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency stop supporting an industry under attack from the scientific community? And start putting public health before corporate profits?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/5-reasons-monsantos-science-doesnt-add-up/5372440


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Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
13. Globalresearch?
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 10:27 AM
Jun 2016

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
10. Globalresearch?
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 10:20 AM
Jun 2016

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
17. The NAS also takes at least 50 times more from the oil industry, yet produced this...
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 11:59 AM
Jun 2016
http://nas-sites.org/americasclimatechoices/events/a-discussion-on-climate-change-evidence-and-causes/

When someone alleges quid pro quo, but only cites the quid, it kinda makes you go hmmm.......

Meanwhile you're a cheerleader for pseudoscience research produced by no-shit pay-for-play shills parroted out by batshit crazy conspiracy theory sources. Very telling that.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
9. Study after study...
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 10:07 AM
Jun 2016
EFSA concluded that glyphosate is unlikely to pose a carcinogenic hazard to humans and the evidence does not support classification with regard to its carcinogenic potential according to Regulation (EC) No 1272/2008.
http://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/efsajournal/pub/4302



The Federal Institute for Risk Assessment (BfR) has already completed the draft re-assessment report on health risk assessment. For this purpose, more than 150 new toxicological studies were evaluated for the first time and are described in detail in the draft report by BfR. In addition, all available toxicological studies (nearly 300) were re-assessed from the point of view of compliance with actual quality standards in study conduction and confirmation of interpreted results. Furthermore, about 900 publications from scientific journals have been considered in the draft report and more than 200 publications were reviewed in detail. In conclusion of this re-evaluation process of the active substance glyphosate by BfR the available data do not show carcinogenic or mutagenic properties of glyphosate nor that glyphosate is toxic to fertility, reproduction or embryonal/fetal development in laboratory animals.
http://www.bfr.bund.de/en/the_bfr_has_finalised_its_draft_report_for_the_re_evaluation_of_glyphosate-188632.html

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