Of the names floating for VP, who do you prefer? (updated x 2 dbl ck on Castro)

[Omaha Steve]

Be sure you check the correct Castro! Julian is the more well known.

Hosts I put this in GD since it is GE not primary related.

OS

65 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited
	Elizabeth Warren
	20 (31%)
	Sherrod Brown
	3 (5%)
	Martin O'Malley
	14 (22%)
	Tom Perez
	1 (2%)
	Tim Kaine
	1 (2%)
	Joaquin Castro
	4 (6%)
	Other please comment
	7 (11%)
	Undecided at this point
	2 (3%)
	Joe Bidden
	5 (8%)
	Julian Castro
	8 (12%)
	1 DU member did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[KamaAina]

1. Joaquin Castro? Wouldn't Julian be ahead of him on the list?

With both mayoral and Cabinet-level experience?

[Omaha Steve]

5. I added him

Thanks.

[Proud Public Servant]

28. Hell no

Part-time figurehead mayor of a city actually run by a city manager, and head of a cabinet department nobody cares about? What a terrible, cynical choice.

[Bucky]

68. I've seen him talk. He's not that inspiring.

That doesn't mean he's not a good manager or would make a poor VP or god forbid President. But the job requires being good at electioneering. Julian is the weakest stump speaker on that list (not counting his brother, who isn't under any consideration).

Of those listed, Elizabeth Warren is by far the best speaker. Al Franken should be on any short list.

[bravenak]

2. I like them all

Want either EDUB, SHERROD, or MOM.

[mrr303am]

26. Who is your mom and what qualities would she bring to the table?

I'd choose my mom for president personally, she is more caring than any politician I know.

[bravenak]

27. Lol, Martin O Malley

[mrr303am]

30. I know just trying to lighten the mood around here. LOL

[tblue37]

60. Who is EDUB? nt

[bravenak]

61. Elizabeth Warren

E double you

[salin]

94. I agree - great list.

[Tikki]

3. But I could see Julian Castro....

Tikki

[metroins]

4. Julian Castro

I'm not his biggest fan but that's who I'd choose.

[BlueStater]

6. If you want a qualified Latino VP, support Xavier Beccera.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xavier_Becerra

Been in Congress for over 20 years. Everything I've heard about this man I have liked.

Why is that empty suit Castro getting all the buzz?

[KamaAina]

10. He is pretty awesome

but she hardly needs to shore up her support in California.

[scscholar]

23. I just couldn't stand hearing eight years of people mispronouncing his name

Just asked six people here at work and heard eight different versions. Then two coworkers from Mexico started shoving each other because the way one pronounced Xavier offended the other, and vice versa. What a mess.

[womanofthehills]

47. Actually it's Julian who is on the list -

[bravenak]

55. I could see that happening

[msongs]

24. agreed (sorry just don't get the swooning over castro) nt

[ucrdem]

63. Beccera's a good guy. I'd go for him or Corey Booker.

But Booker's still single and that might be a consideration so I guess that leaves Xavier.

[StevieM]

90. ITA!!! I have actually been posting that a lot lately. I think Becerra would make an outstanding

running-mate for Hillary Clinton.

[chillfactor]

7. I think people are confusing the Castro twins...

you need to update your poll...again.

[womanofthehills]

46. It's Julian, not Joaquin who was named a rising star in the dem party

Remember Julian's speach in Charlotte. He gave the keynote speech at the 2012 dem national convention. He and his brother sat right next to Michelle. He is a wonderful speaker, smart, down to earth, charismatic, smiles a lot and is cute too. He comes off as a people person when he speaks - a good trait.

[NightWatcher]

8. I think her vp should be impeachment insurance

I'm not trashing Hillary but we all know if the repukes control congress, that they'll impeach her on the grounds of being a Clinton.

I think she should pick someone who strikes fear in the repukes. They hate Warren...

[elleng]

9. While I like Warren a lot,

I don't think this should be the reason to select a VP: 'someone who strikes fear in the repukes. They hate Warren.' SUBSTANCE is my #1, and both Warren and Governor O'Malley have it.

[Omaha Steve]

11. ^^^ THIS ^^^

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[elleng]

12. Thanks, Steve.

Have a good weekend.

[NightWatcher]

13. The vp should also bring something to the election, typically a state or region

Warren would bring Progressives. They love her. I do understand her wanting to be a force in the Senate but I think she'd be better than O'Malley. He brings what, the thousand that voted for him before he dropped out of the primary?

[Chan790]

37. What Marty brings...

and to be clear, my preference is Warren...is that he in a lot of ways complements where Clinton is weak or where she can make herself appear stronger by not going.

He's energetic, personable and genuine in a way that Clinton never really seems comfortable on the stump. (I'm not saying she's not these things...but they don't come through well; she seems to enjoy campaigning as much as most people enjoy getting stuck with needles.) He's a brutal campaigner, someone that can tear down Trump while allowing Hillary to continue to present herself as above that kind of sparring and focused on the issues. He's a counter-balance to her thinking and the influence of Bill in a lot of the same ways that Biden seemed to make Obama better by goading him to evolve or defend his positions...he can present a forceful devil's advocate that might move her on issues where she's not necessarily in-line with the party or the public or encourage her to take progressive risks to pursue grand initiatives.

[JonLeibowitz]

31. ^^^ THIS X1000 ^^^

[bvar22]

18. Please....NOT Warren.

We need her voice loud and clear in the Senate,
not silently sitting behind Hillary, nodding as the remains of the Working Class are picked over by the vultures.
The best way to muzzle a voice and neuter a strong political force is to make them Vice-President.

Please, PLEASE .....NOT Warren.

[friendly_iconoclast]

21. Thank you, I was thinking the exact same thing

[hay rick]

25. She will bring out Bernie voters.

A couple million Bernie voters who might otherwise stay home could mean control of the Senate and a much better House...

[RichGirl]

34. Bernie will bring out Bernie voters!

If they are as loyal to him as they claim....they'll trust him.

[hay rick]

42. Most of his supporters are loyal to his populist message.

Hillary's lurch to the left during the primaries is viewed as lip service by most Bernie supporters. Choosing Warren (or Sanders) for VP would signal stronger commitment to progressive values. Everyone expects Bernie to support Hillary, especially against Trump. Bernie's expected endorsement of lesser-evil Clinton will mean little to his supporters in the absence of some credible commitment to more progressive policies from Hillary.

[jillan]

58. No she won't. That's actually silly. Hillary is the nominee. Her vp pick will not earn her votes.

You don't vote for VP.

[hay rick]

85. We disagree.

An obvious example is McCain-Palin. He got an immediate bounce when he tapped Palin. Then she opened her mouth and her unscripted remarks turned into a huge liability. McCain's pick of Palin completely undermined one of the central messages of his campaign- that his greater experience meant he would have better judgment in making crucial decisions.

Hillary's biggest problem with progressives is they don't trust her on issues. She can offer reassurance or confirm fears with her vp pick.

[NuclearDem]

32. Of course the VP's an absolutely powerless position with no influence.

Just ask Dick Cheney.

And remind Joe Biden that the VP slot was supposed to muzzle him.

[SoCalDem]

52. Same here.. Warren is too good to be veep.

I wish Biden had run..he would have shared with Hillary, and Bernie might have prevailed ..


Here's hoping that Warren gets a chance in 20..but I don;t think she really wants to be president

[Chan790]

35. This is actually a fairly-strong argument for O'Malley as well.

Not so much that he scares or is hated by congressional Republicans...he terrifies their kingmakers I'm sure.

He absolutely pasted Koch pawn Bob Ehrlich in MD repeatedly. It wasn't civil, it was a bloodbath and Ehrlich was the only one bleeding. He went to war with state house Republicans and conservative Democrats and won there too. There's a reason why those of us that know him...I worked for his campaigns for Mayor and Governor...say things like "Marty's a political knife-fighter...you wouldn't think it but I think he likes the feel of blood between his fingers and on his shoes." He enjoys political warfare...maybe a little too much. It might scare you to watch him smile as he eviscerates opponents and critics. They hate him but they can't beat him.

He's a fierce partisan and campaigner; I'd expect him to make mincemeat out of anybody Trump could get to run with him. Not so much a great debater as just that really calm guy we all know someone like...that lets you hurt yourself by bloviating, then cuts you down. He's smart...I rarely praise anybody's intelligence, but Marty's smarter than me.

(Ask Ellen, she'll vouch for it.)

[a kennedy]

14. ah......can we just wait until they are announced?? eom

[shadowmayor]

15. Leave Senators in the Senate

We're going to need all the help we can get when we have a democrat in the White House. Think Grassley and McConnell will be nice boys once HRC is sworn in? The blockade will continue anew. They are just sore losers who care more about the Republican Party than they do about the American people. D

[Warren DeMontague]

16. Or Gavin Newsom.

[TipTok]

17. Jim Webb...

Won me over in the debates...

[geek tragedy]

83. Webb is supporting Trump.

What about him won you over?

[TipTok]

88. His spiel about his time in Vietnam...

I haven't kept tabs on him since then.

Shame about the Trump endorsement.

Also, I will gravitate towards any combat veteran.

[karynnj]

91. My two happiest votes were for veterans - John Kerry and George McGovern

I did respect that they served, but beyond that I agreed with their values on things like the food stamp program ( that McGovern led on), health care (Kerry worked with Kennedy on the precursor bill to SCHIP(Kerry/Kennedy) and on mental health parity), the environment (Kerry was as good as anyone in the Senate on that issue.)

Both McGovern and Kerry were good men of integrity and honor. Both leaned on their service to criticize a war that as Kerry has recently said - could have been avoided if diplomats had done their job. With both of them, I agree with them on almost everything and I respected them as people.

Webb did serve and was a war hero. He also STILL insists that the Vietnam War was popular and could have been won. He also refused for over 30 years to shake John Kerry's hand - because of Webb's belief that the war - if we continued - could have been won. (Kerry in 2006 actually endorsed Webb in the primary as he had the best chance to win and raised most of the GOTV money Webb had - showing a magnanimity that I have rarely seen by politicians.)

Then there are other problems - Webb, as Secretary of the Navy under Reagan, had a terrible record in terms of dealing with women subordinates. It is also disturbing that in this century, he defends those who want the confederate flag to be honored. On many votes when he was a Senate, he was not a sure thing. His biggest value was that he was the 51st Democratic Senator giving us the majority.

So, compared to EVERY Democrat running I disagreed with him the most on issues and I am unimpressed by him as a person.

[sabbat hunter]

39. I don't think

either Castro will swing Texas to blue. Outside of their home town, parts of Houston, and parts of Austin, it is still a deep red state. maybe by 2020 or 2024.

[Il_Coniglietto]

20. No senators that would get GOP replacements.

We need them where they are. I still like Julian Castro (Barack Obama was pretty inexperienced in 2008). I also like Xavier Becerra and Martin O'Malley, but those two are both from already solid blue states.

Ideally, it should be someone who shores up Hillary's weaker areas and is someone she can work with closely for the next eight years (until it's their time to run in 2024).

[Omaha Steve]

22. The Loophole That Could Make Elizabeth Warren Vice President

http://www.bustle.com/articles/164966-the-loophole-that-could-make-elizabeth-warren-vice-president

SETH MILLSTEIN
4 days ago NEWS

Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren has emerged as one of the top potential vice presidential picks for Hillary Clinton, but there’s a problem: She’d have to resign from the Senate in order to serve as vice president, thus allowing the state’s Republican governor to appoint her replacement. Luckily for Warren, there’s a loophole that would allow Democrats to circumvent this problem and run Warren as vice president without likely sacrificing a Senate seat to the GOP.

According to Massachusetts law, the governor gets to appoint a replacement when a Senate seat is vacated. But it’s only a temporary arrangement; the law states that a special election must be held within 160 days of the seat becoming vacant. In theory, this means Warren’s interim replacement would only get to serve for the first five months of the next administration.

Here’s the loophole: A Senator from Massachusetts doesn’t have to actually resign in order to start that 160-day countdown timer. They merely have to file a letter with the state announcing their resignation. But there’s no limit on how far in advance a senator can make such an announcement.

So Warren could file a letter now, or next week or whenever, announcing that she’ll be retiring from the Senate in January of 2017 — inauguration day. There are more than 160 days between now and then, so if she timed it right, Massachusetts would be required to hold a special election the day after the next president is sworn in. The Republican governor, Charlie Baker, would not have the opportunity to appoint a replacement.

FULL story at link.

[Il_Coniglietto]

29. I really like her and think she'd do an excellent job

But I think being VP doesn't fit her strengths. In the Senate, she's a powerful voice for progressives and in the future, can hopefully be Senate Majority Leader. But as Vice President, her role would be more ceremonial and she'd be acting as a representative of the Administration and its policies. It would be great if she could help shape policy, but I'm not sure just how much power she'd really have.

Plus, and it's just a fact of life, she's turning 67 in a few days. By 2024, if she ran for President and won, she'd be the oldest ever elected.

If she gets the call, I think she'd be fantastic. But she's not one of my top picks.

[rhett o rick]

33. This is silly, Hillary promised the VP slot to Goldman-Sachs. Since Citizens United

deemed Corporations to be human, they can hold office.

How ecstatic the Corporate Dems among us would be to have an actual corporation a heart beat away from the presidency.

Corporations Uber Alles.

What irony that Citizens United should end up helping Hillary get the nomination.

[RazBerryBeret]

36. damnit, man...

you just made my drink come out my nose. haha.

[JonLeibowitz]

53. LOL

[kpola12]

38. Tulsi Gabbard.

[athena]

49. You haven't looked into her positions on the issues, have you?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2171511

[Proud Public Servant]

40. Why not Hickenlooper?

DC outsider, governor of a swing state, leading figure on what should be a major Dem platform plank (weed legalization). Any reason not to include him?

[TransitJohn]

48. Leading figure!?!?

He opposed legalization even after we voters legalized it through referendum.

[Proud Public Servant]

70. Didn't remember that. My bad. (nt)

[Laura PourMeADrink]

41. BILL RICHARDSON

[TexasBushwhacker]

64. I like him n/t

[Iggo]

43. Not a US Senator. (n/t)

[corkhead]

44. Fidel Castro

[dembotoz]

74. the gop already claim that

[randr]

45. VP is a strategic political choice

It will be a popular pol from a state or region that plays into the Electorial race. Possibly hispanic if Hills camp sees that voting block will turn the numbers.

[TexasBushwhacker]

66. That's fine, but Hispanics are NOT going to vote for Trump

Trump isn't going to get many African American votes either.

Although Hickenlooper was against marijuana legalization, he hasn't fought against the will of the people. He may have changed his tune now that he sees what a money maker it is for the state.

If I had my choice, I'd choose someone not in the Senate who is from Florida or Ohio. No one comes to mind but Sherrod Brown, but I don't want to loose him in the Senate.

[randr]

72. Just watched a segment on CNN

Hispanic women for Trump from Florida. Claim to have large numbers. Think Florida may be needed for EC votes?

[TexasBushwhacker]

78. Trump claims to be worth $10 Billion

but his campaign is going broke because he CAN'T self finance after all. Of course they claim their numbers are Y...U...G...E. That doesn't mean they are.

[SoCalDem]

50. My guess (NOT my favorite) is Tim Kaine

because Hillary will not want to be out shone by Warren or a younger person who would contrast too much.

I am resigned to this 4 year stretch, and can only hope that the Trump bypass (fingers crossed) will be enough for Hillary and perhaps someone in their 40's will step up in 2020/

She has done the historic thing..first lady of a state..first lady of the nation..senator..sec of state and now president, so maybe she will be ready to be Grandma & retire after one term.

Personally, I only wish she would hire a fashion consultant to help her dress better. Most of the things she wears are not flattering at all, and she could look so much better..

I wish her well, and hope she wins, but I am afraid of the Clinton Foundation stuff that will come out.

[Gomez163]

51. BILL MAZEROSKI

[Jnclr89]

54. Joe Bidden, that guy is the Megladon

Shark of all debates. I just want to see it again.

[dreamnightwind]

56. Odd that you left Bernie out of the list

I don't want to see Warren OR Bernie as VP, it's a figure-head position whose primary duty is to support and rubber-stamp the policies of the POTUS, which in this case won't be the policies of Warren or Sanders. Seems like another way to get progressives to give in to unending triangulation by the corporatists, the VP being a meaningless bone thrown to the left.

So I'd rather Warren and Sanders fight for what they believe in in the Senate, assuming Bernie doesn't pursue a third-party run, which I am pretty sure he won't.

Hillary IS someone who could very well end up being impeached, you know it will be the primary agenda of Republicans. So that is the one argument that makes sense to me for either Warren or Sanders as VP. For me, thee arguments against outweigh the arguments for, so I hope they stay in the Senate rather than serve as VP to Hillary.

[Omaha Steve]

89. Bernie doesn't want it

I doubt Hillary wants him. So I left him out.

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[gwheezie]

57. Barbara Lee

She's my answer for vp pick for any dem.

[joshcryer]

59. Julien Castro makes the most sense demographically.

But I still voted for Warren, because fuck it, she is a firebrand.

[hay rick]

87. I don't think we have to woo the hispanic vote.

Donald Trump has saved us the trouble. In Castro's case, he can't deliver a state and he won't bring in progressives. I voted for Warren but I think Sherrod Brown probably makes more sense.

[Jack Bone]

62. Gen. Wes Clark nt

[Bucky]

69. I loved and supported Clark's candidacy in '04. I wished he'd've run in '08. But now... no

He's way too embedded in Wall Street money. He'd be a good advisor; he's a think-tank lecturer, but his hour hais passed. It's time to start developing the next generation of leaders. Dems haven't won the White House with a candidate over the age of 51 since LBJ--who only was on the top of the ballot due to tragic circumstances.

[Dragonfli]

65. Goldman Sachs /nt

[Bluenorthwest]

67. So obviously it has to be a Straight Christian who is not from the West Coast

Pretty limiting and might explain why the list contain people who are related to one another. God forbid the VP not be wearing a cross and married to the opposite sex.

The whole Christian Soldiers theme of this campaign is a major freaking turnoff.

[Chan790]

86. Personally, I think we should choose a Native Gaythiest. (Gay, Atheist, Native American)

That way, when the GOP impeaches Clinton for some bullshit, we can check three more demographic boxes off the checklist and can sooner get back to choosing the best Presidential candidate rather than the momentous Presidential candidate.

Where are we going to find a sexual-minority atheist of Native American descent? I'd volunteer but I don't want to come across as all "Pick me! Pick me!"

[Scuba]

71. Jeb!

[corkhead]

77. Tanned, rested and ready. That would seal the Koch Bro vote for sure.

[spooky3]

73. Al Franken

[Bluenorthwest]

80. Al would be a very, very good choice. Not sure her base could accept him.

I assume that's why he's not on the list.

[Omaha Steve]

82. MN is a light blue state

The poll only has 10 spaces so I did the best I could. Map from 2012.

[geardaddy]

92. It seems odd that MN is only light blue

We haven't gone for a Gooper for president since 1972. We have the longest stretch of not voting for any GOP candidate.

[a kennedy]

93. Makes me sick my birth state is toss up because of Wanker.

Used to be known as the great leader State.......now known as the Northern Mississippi.

[Stellar]

75. Definitely Martin O'Malley from this list, but...

would prefer Senator Sherrod Brown. Senator Warren is Presidential material and should play second to NO one. Her voice is needed right where she is now. The Senate would go quiet with out her there and, as VP, I fear she would never be heard from again. (Republic0ns would love that). Unless of course Hillary would put her in charge of the economy and not Bill as she stated during the primary.

[djean111]

76. Oh, not the only ones -

The Senate would go quiet with out her there and, as VP, I fear she would never be heard from again. (Republic0ns would love that).

The Third Way (current owners of the DNC) has gone so far as to express their displeasure with Warren in the Wall Street Journal. Did you know that Warren is "getting out of hand"? Warren as VP is a twofer for the Third Way - they hope to scoop up Sanders supporters, and it would get her inconvenient-to-the-1% voice out of the Senate.

[Stellar]

79. Yeah, those low life MF's too!

But I was surprised to see my girl Nina Turner go after Senator Warren, that surprised me and pi$$ me off!

But then, after a hard fraught race I know she was all in for Bernie (as was I) but that's going a little bit far in my book.

http://www.forwardprogressives.com/after-clinton-endorsement-rabid-sanders-supporters-trash-elizabeth-warren-on-social-media/

[djean111]

81. I kind of avoid all the endorsement stuff because I am really all about the issues.

So I didn't really care what Warren did. She is a politician.

An endorsement, no matter who it is from, cannot induce me to vote for war and fracking and the TPP and all the other nasty stuff. So for me it is moot. Like the VP slot.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

84. No to Warren, no to Brown, and I'm not sure about Congressman Castro.

I want a VP who won't hand a senate seat to the Republicans. Giving up an incumbency advantage in Congress is a much smaller deal but still a negative.