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pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:55 PM Jun 2016

Bad news for Trump: in informal poll at Romney's retreat, HALF of attendees said

they might support Hillary over the Don.

Meg Whitman got the headlines, but she's not the only prominent Republican who hates Trump.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/high-profile-gop-donor-meg-whitman-support-hillary/story?id=39774523

Two sources in the room said Whitman also compared Trump to historical demagogues, including Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini.

SNIP

Whitman has previously gone on the record saying she wouldn't be voting for Trump.

"Look at the comments he's made about women, about Muslims, about reporters, it's just repugnant," she told CNBC in March.

According to Jim and Joanne, a couple from Southern California who declined to provide their last names, Whitman isn't the only donor here considering Clinton. The summit attendees took an informal poll at lunch, with the room splitting evenly among Trump and Clinton supporters, they said.

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Bad news for Trump: in informal poll at Romney's retreat, HALF of attendees said (Original Post) pnwmom Jun 2016 OP
I don't believe them Iliyah Jun 2016 #1
I'll tell you what I do believe. It's good news for Gary Johnson Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2016 #38
I wouldn't bragging about this one if I were a Hillary supporter. It speaks volumes. n/t brewens Jun 2016 #2
Why? Bernie's supporters often brag about how he'll get Independents -- some of whom pnwmom Jun 2016 #6
It's more like they are perfectly comfortable with Hillary anyway, and a testament brewens Jun 2016 #10
Do you think any candidate can win a national election without crossover votes? Hekate Jun 2016 #33
BS often boasted about GOPers voting for him Iliyah Jun 2016 #11
You understand that they would be voting for her to sufrommich Jun 2016 #12
Sanders supporters have been saying for months that he's the most likely to get crossover voters. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #20
weren't we just hearing that Bernie Bros were gonna vote Trump instead of Hillary? nini Jun 2016 #25
Yes. It WAS gonna be a secret, but now you have cleverly divined the Bernie Bros evil plan. FailureToCommunicate Jun 2016 #34
I am bragging about our Democratic nominee. Cary Jun 2016 #36
Well i guess I would rather take some crossovers than MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #37
Talking about big time donor types here, not really voters. Of course. brewens Jun 2016 #41
well they probably almost all voted for romney so this is not saying much nt msongs Jun 2016 #3
They want to protect their pocketbooks Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #4
Uh-uh. immoderate Jun 2016 #8
No way jberryhill Jun 2016 #39
Who would George W endorse? immoderate Jun 2016 #5
No one so far. He's said he won't endorse Trump. n/t pnwmom Jun 2016 #7
I'm surprised evil woman Babs Bush isn't openly trashing Trumpf. roamer65 Jun 2016 #18
your answer AntiBank Jun 2016 #26
I think some Republicans will quietly vote for Clinton BainsBane Jun 2016 #9
In 2012 jamese777 Jun 2016 #32
I think they are hoping he loses. DCBob Jun 2016 #13
I'm certain a lot of the GOP establishment have nightmares sufrommich Jun 2016 #15
If they were smart, they'd hedge their bets and approve Garland now Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2016 #40
as a personal policy, I don't believe anything that any Republican says rurallib Jun 2016 #14
I second that elmac Jun 2016 #17
Trump Has Served His Purpose McKim Jun 2016 #16
Oh, yeah, it was a big conspiracy between Republicans and Democrats pnwmom Jun 2016 #21
They are more than welcome to vote for our side... tallahasseedem Jun 2016 #19
Perhaps they are afraid that Trump would force Congress to get out of the trade agreements amandabeech Jun 2016 #22
Like all of us, they are most afraid of having Trump's finger on the nuclear button, pnwmom Jun 2016 #23
Nah. They have egos as big as Trump's. amandabeech Jun 2016 #24
"Trump's finger on the nuclear button"<<< I am hard pressed to think of 6 more terrifying words AntiBank Jun 2016 #27
Ya think T-rump care? Iliyah Jun 2016 #28
Good one . n/t amandabeech Jun 2016 #29
American Conservative Union jamese777 Jun 2016 #30
^^^^^^THIS THIS THIS ^^^^^^ with *** Monk06 Jun 2016 #35
So much for the Southern Stategy Lie with dogs get up with fleas The Northeast Pubbies are Monk06 Jun 2016 #31

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,781 posts)
38. I'll tell you what I do believe. It's good news for Gary Johnson
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:44 AM
Jun 2016

I think a lot of Republicans that can't bring themselves to vote for Trump will vote Libertarian.

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
6. Why? Bernie's supporters often brag about how he'll get Independents -- some of whom
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:15 PM
Jun 2016

now say they will switch from Bernie to Trump.

Hillary will get any Rethug who would prefer a sane President to another Hitler or Mussolini.

brewens

(13,537 posts)
10. It's more like they are perfectly comfortable with Hillary anyway, and a testament
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:23 PM
Jun 2016

of how bad Trump is making them look.

Hekate

(90,550 posts)
33. Do you think any candidate can win a national election without crossover votes?
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 11:36 PM
Jun 2016

Would you feel better about the country's prospects if you thought all Republicans without exception were batshit crazy?

I'm actually quite pleased that some in the GOP are waking up to the nightmare their party created.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
11. BS often boasted about GOPers voting for him
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:35 PM
Jun 2016

But alas, that's a ok huh?

T-rump is even a nightmare for many GOPers.

TwilightZone

(25,426 posts)
20. Sanders supporters have been saying for months that he's the most likely to get crossover voters.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 10:34 PM
Jun 2016

Now, it's a bad thing?

One can't win an election with only one voting bloc. That's been pretty well established.

nini

(16,672 posts)
25. weren't we just hearing that Bernie Bros were gonna vote Trump instead of Hillary?
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 11:09 PM
Jun 2016

There's something not to brag about.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,007 posts)
34. Yes. It WAS gonna be a secret, but now you have cleverly divined the Bernie Bros evil plan.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 11:37 PM
Jun 2016

Spread the word of your brilliant deduction, tell it far and wide...

Cary

(11,746 posts)
36. I am bragging about our Democratic nominee.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 11:44 PM
Jun 2016

If you have a problem with that it's your problem not mine.

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
37. Well i guess I would rather take some crossovers than
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 11:57 PM
Jun 2016

the mostly white younger crowd. At least we know they do vote.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
4. They want to protect their pocketbooks
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:06 PM
Jun 2016

They know trump will destroy the economy in a heartbeat. He will replace all U.S. currency with Trump Bucks, only redeemable at one of his shitty hotels or model the Department of Education after Trump University.

They know they are going to get dragged through shit just like the rest of us if he wins. The dems might raise their taxes a bit but Trump could very well lead us to a pre-historic bartering system where it costs 3 chickens for a roll of toilet paper.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
39. No way
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:47 AM
Jun 2016

1 chicken for 3 rolls of toilet paper would be more like it.

I wouldn't take less than 8 or 9. Depends on size of chicken.

For 1 roll, I give you egg.

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
18. I'm surprised evil woman Babs Bush isn't openly trashing Trumpf.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 10:12 PM
Jun 2016

The way he dissed her spawn Jeb, I thought she'd be out there hammering at him.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
13. I think they are hoping he loses.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:37 PM
Jun 2016

They are started to come to the realization that 4 years of Hillary will do less damage to the GOP than 4 years of Trump.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
15. I'm certain a lot of the GOP establishment have nightmares
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:41 PM
Jun 2016

where Donald Trump is the face of the Republican party.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,781 posts)
40. If they were smart, they'd hedge their bets and approve Garland now
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:52 AM
Jun 2016

He's 63 and seems (you can never tell) like he will be far more of a swing vote than Kagan or Sotomayor. If Clinton wins (especially if the Senate goes blue), she will likely ask Obama to withdraw the pick and she will make her own pick (which -- you never know -- could be Obama). If Trump wins, the Democrats will very possibly delay the pick indefinitely to show their displeasure over Garland. Whereas if Garland were approved now, Trump would have a much easier time replacing RBG and Anthony Kennedy.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
16. Trump Has Served His Purpose
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:59 PM
Jun 2016

Now that the possibility of a Trump presidency has served its purpose of scaring Democrats into voting for Hillary over Sanders in the primary, they can all relax. With Hillary they will get all the wars they want and a little window dressing of crumbs for the rest of us.

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
21. Oh, yeah, it was a big conspiracy between Republicans and Democrats
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 10:53 PM
Jun 2016

to get Hillary elected instead of Bernie.

tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)
19. They are more than welcome to vote for our side...
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 10:18 PM
Jun 2016

but I sure hope that the campaign doesn't publicly embrace this.

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
22. Perhaps they are afraid that Trump would force Congress to get out of the trade agreements
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 10:56 PM
Jun 2016

and slap big tariffs on imports. That would really hit these people in the pocketbook.

This crowd may talk about racism and sexism, but the only thing that they think about is money, and they're making theirs in Asia and Mexico one way or another.

Hillary will do nothing to derail their gravy train, but Trump might, just like Sanders.

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
23. Like all of us, they are most afraid of having Trump's finger on the nuclear button,
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 11:03 PM
Jun 2016

and his ego in charge of the decision.

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
24. Nah. They have egos as big as Trump's.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 11:05 PM
Jun 2016

People like that believe that they will survive to make lots of money on the leftovers.

 

AntiBank

(1,339 posts)
27. "Trump's finger on the nuclear button"<<< I am hard pressed to think of 6 more terrifying words
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 11:17 PM
Jun 2016

jamese777

(546 posts)
30. American Conservative Union
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 11:27 PM
Jun 2016

The ACU, sponsors of the CPAC conference, ranks every member of Congress on how they actually vote on issues of prime concern to conservatives. For example, Senator Mike Lee of Utah has a perfect 100% conservative voting record.
In 2014, here's what the ACU said about Hillary Clinton: "Another interesting fact in our analysis is the stark reminder that Sec. Hillary Clinton is no moderate. While many in the media portray her as more centrist than self-described Socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) or fringe activist Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), Clinton’s lifetime rating of 8.13% is within two percentage points from those extremists. And shockingly, all three of these presidential hopefuls are even more liberal than President Barack Obama’s Lifetime Rating of 10% from when he served in the U.S. Senate. If America wants a third Obama term, three candidates will not disappoint."
http://conservative.org/acu-releases-2014-annual-ratings-of-congress/

ACU's rating of Elizabeth Warren, 4%, Bernie Sanders, 6.32% conservative, Hillary Clinton, 8.13% and Barack Obama, 10%. By way of contrat, Florida Democratic Senator Bill Nelson votes conservative 28% of the time.

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
35. ^^^^^^THIS THIS THIS ^^^^^^ with ***
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 11:40 PM
Jun 2016

If Hillary wins and you get a slim Senate majority the GOP are finished for several decades and the right will be left with some Teabagger racist rump third wave political movement with no chance of election

Just guns and frustration

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
31. So much for the Southern Stategy Lie with dogs get up with fleas The Northeast Pubbies are
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 11:31 PM
Jun 2016

now fighting for their lives against the Texas and Arizona fascists

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