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Sun Jun 12, 2016, 05:11 AM

 

At least 20 people shot dead in attack on gay club in Orlando

Last edited Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:58 AM - Edit history (2)

horrible news.

here's a link. And please, can we stay away from the Florida jokes.

My thoughts are with the victims, their families friends and yes, the first responders.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/gunman-opens-fire-orlando-gay-club-report-article-1.2670322

Edited to remove reference to there being 2 gunmen. Too much confusion. Too much unknown.

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Reply At least 20 people shot dead in attack on gay club in Orlando (Original post)
cali Jun 2016 OP
TexasTowelie Jun 2016 #1
Cryptoad Jun 2016 #32
gollygee Jun 2016 #2
joshcryer Jun 2016 #3
davidn3600 Jun 2016 #4
pinboy3niner Jun 2016 #5
Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #6
jberryhill Jun 2016 #25
pipoman Jun 2016 #49
davidn3600 Jun 2016 #7
pinboy3niner Jun 2016 #9
auntpurl Jun 2016 #8
LostOne4Ever Jun 2016 #10
RKP5637 Jun 2016 #51
Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #11
baldguy Jun 2016 #12
pinboy3niner Jun 2016 #13
6chars Jun 2016 #15
wallyworld2 Jun 2016 #27
6chars Jun 2016 #29
wallyworld2 Jun 2016 #33
6chars Jun 2016 #35
aikoaiko Jun 2016 #14
Scuba Jun 2016 #16
Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2016 #30
fishwax Jun 2016 #44
6chars Jun 2016 #53
BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #17
pinboy3niner Jun 2016 #19
malaise Jun 2016 #21
countryjake Jun 2016 #24
malaise Jun 2016 #31
countryjake Jun 2016 #40
malaise Jun 2016 #41
countryjake Jun 2016 #23
Amimnoch Jun 2016 #18
malaise Jun 2016 #22
malaise Jun 2016 #20
gademocrat7 Jun 2016 #26
SidDithers Jun 2016 #28
JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2016 #42
B Calm Jun 2016 #34
BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #36
B Calm Jun 2016 #38
BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #39
Post removed Jun 2016 #37
countryjake Jun 2016 #43
cali Jun 2016 #45
countryjake Jun 2016 #47
titaniumsalute Jun 2016 #46
Fla_Democrat Jun 2016 #48
DonCoquixote Jun 2016 #50
smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #52


Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:00 AM

32. I dont think ,,,

FL acceptance of the GOP's new "a gun for every Idiot" gun laws can be considered a joke!

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Response to cali (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 05:23 AM

2. Oh no

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Response to cali (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 05:45 AM

3. Orlando PD has had a rough couple of days.

Jesus.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 05:46 AM

4. Lots of unconfirmed reports right now

 

According to CNN, there are unconfirmed reports that there is still an ongoing hostage situation.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 05:54 AM

5. Orlando Police Dept. confirms "this is a mass casualty situation"

Orlando Police ‏@OrlandoPolice 2 minutes ago

We can confirm this is a mass casualty situation. Support from local/state/federal agencies. We expect to brief media shortly.

https://twitter.com/OrlandoPolice?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

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Response to cali (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 05:54 AM

6. Jeezus, can't we get through ONE (1) damn day without another

 

gun-related massacre?

I have no statistics to cite, but I'd bet things were never this bad even in the gun-totin', hard-drinkin' wild west.

Makes sense. They didn't have mutli-magazine assault rifles, although everybody was "open-carrying".

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 07:34 AM

25. No we can't

 

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:11 AM

49. You would be wrong. Seek statistics.

 

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Response to cali (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 05:54 AM

7. Police confirm the shooter is dead.

 

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Response to davidn3600 (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 06:03 AM

9. "The shooter inside the club is dead."

That doesn't rule out another possible shooter being sought.

Orlando Police ‏@OrlandoPolice 5 minutes ago  Orlando, FL

Pulse Shooting: The shooter inside the club is dead.

https://twitter.com/OrlandoPolice?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

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Response to cali (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 05:57 AM

8. Oh my god

Awful.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 06:12 AM

10. It never ends

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Response to LostOne4Ever (Reply #10)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:35 AM

51. It just goes on and on. It's so damn depressing. n/t

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Response to cali (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 06:13 AM

11. Jesus. Ugh.

Ugh. Ugh. Ugh.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 06:15 AM

12. Is this terrorism? Or just the run-of-the-mill gun-related massacre?

 

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Response to baldguy (Reply #12)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 06:17 AM

13. At this point it's all just unsupported speculation

Best to wait for for some facts.

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Response to baldguy (Reply #12)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 06:38 AM

15. terrorism

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Response to 6chars (Reply #15)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 07:46 AM

27. I would

agree

even more so if you belong to the gay community

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Response to wallyworld2 (Reply #27)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 07:50 AM

29. it is the definition of terrorism.

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Response to 6chars (Reply #29)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:03 AM

33. Oh no

I agree

and you know the gunman really believed in some sort of cause

and that he was doing a good thing

and there are some really twisted people who would agree with him

and the biggest terrorist threat to the nation is domestic terrorism

and that our federal and local agencies should treat them as the threat they are

and that this should be reported for what it is in the news

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Response to wallyworld2 (Reply #33)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:06 AM

35. 'We consider this an act of terrorism,' 20 dead inside Pulse Nightclub, officials say

http://www.wftv.com/news/local/police-multiple-injuries-after-shooting-at-orlando-nightclub/337929937

The FBI, along with numerous other agencies, was investigating the shooting and it was not clear if it was an act of domestic or foreign terrorism.

Orlando Police Chief John Mina said the department was currently working to remove any "devices" the shooter may have left behind.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 06:29 AM

14. Horrible news. My thoughts are with the victims


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Response to cali (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 07:09 AM

16. I blame Republicans and religious fundamentalists.

 

Last edited Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:08 PM - Edit history (2)

on edit: changed "Chriestian" to "religious." Thanks to those who helped me get this.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #16)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 07:52 AM

30. The FBI are saying there's a close connection to Islamic terrorism.

If so, it seems like you're probably wrong to do so.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/12/florida-gay-nightclub-shooting-injuries-reported-at-pulse-orland/

(N.B. The Telegraph is generally reasonably good on factual accuracy, but it's a firmly right-wing publication so treat its comment and analysis with extreme caution).

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Response to Donald Ian Rankin (Reply #30)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:34 AM

44. I see one agent saying the shooter "may have leanings"

not any firm assertion that there is a close connection with Islamic terrorism. Perhaps the Telegraph has changed their story since you initially linked, but right now it's just speculation that it could be domestic and it could be Islamic:

The Federal Bureau of Investigation is assisting. Agent Ron Hopper said they cannot rule this out as an act of domestic terrorism and that the suspect, who is not from Orlando, may have leanings toward extreme Islamic ideologies.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #16)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:11 AM

53. oops

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Response to cali (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 07:14 AM

17. Press conference going on right now

Was hostage situation...
Police went in to rescue hostages
Gunman had assault rifle, handgun
Multiple people dead inside...
At least 42 transported to hospitals..



Edit - Sheriff said it was certainly considered an act of domestic terrorism.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #17)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 07:17 AM

19. "Multiple people dead inside...."

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #19)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 07:24 AM

21. Several emergency vehicles

Domestic Terror - thanks ReTHUGs and Fundies

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Response to malaise (Reply #21)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 07:30 AM

24. One reporter asked that...cop doesn't know ideology of shooter...yet.



fucking terror

I'm terrified and I'm sitting on the opposite end of the country.

Just got physically ill after I got up and turned on the tv. What sort of person carries that much hate against people they don't even know, have never even met, to just walk in a place and murder as many innocents as they can?

Three hours people were hiding, scared for their lives, before any rescue came. Three hours the wounded lay bleeding and dying on the floor. God, I'm sick of this hate.

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Response to countryjake (Reply #24)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 07:54 AM

31. Latin Night at a Gay Nightclub

I think I can figure out the ideology. Fuck those fucking folks promoting hate.

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Response to malaise (Reply #31)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:10 AM

40. Some insecure religious fundamentalist...whatever flavor...

who thinks the world revolves around their particular imaginings.

I can't stop puking...supposed to go clean in half an hour and I can't stop crying and being sick to my stomach. gonna miss work...damn.

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Response to countryjake (Reply #40)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:13 AM

41. I feel your pain

I can't take thelonewolf meme bring promoted already

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #19)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 07:28 AM

23. Fuck. So far, approximately 20 victims dead.

They were trapped in there hiding...up to thirty people were rescued, 42 injured and transported to hospitals, after the shoot-out with cops when gunman was killed.



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Response to cali (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 07:17 AM

18. Police statement now: "Assault rifle and handgun"

 

No numbers, no details on the shooter other than he was killed in an exchange of gun fire around 5am. No motive yet.

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Response to Amimnoch (Reply #18)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 07:25 AM

22. Multiple dead -over 20

42 in hospital. One policeman was injured

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Response to cali (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 07:21 AM

20. Press Conference On now and is being covered even on BBC

Madness

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Response to cali (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 07:39 AM

26. Terrible

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Response to cali (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 07:48 AM

28. June is Pride Month...

This is fucking horrible.

Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #28)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:18 AM

42. And this year, it's the month of Ramadan.

And I agree with you.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:05 AM

34. Not related, but wasn't that Voice star shot dead in Orlando?

 

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Response to B Calm (Reply #34)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:08 AM

36. Yes but

they say they don't believe these incidents are related.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #36)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:09 AM

38. I think I already pointed that out.

 

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Response to B Calm (Reply #38)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:10 AM

39. The singer shooting was a big story here in Philly

since she was from S. Jersey!

Just so sad.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:30 AM

43. News is discussing why the shooter stopped for so long...

since he had plenty of weaponry and ammo on him...what was he doing during that time? The hostage situation lasted for up to three hours before cops finally moved in on the guy.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:51 AM

45. Unbearable. Inexcusable. When I posted this, I so hoped

 

that the shooting victims were injured, not dead.

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Response to cali (Reply #45)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:58 AM

47. A nightmare for so many families, friends, and loved ones...

I was hoping, too, before they held that awful press conference. So very many shot and hurt...horrific.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:54 AM

46. I'm sure the gunman was standing his ground

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Response to titaniumsalute (Reply #46)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:04 AM

48. He was, until....

other people with guns showed up. Then I imagine he was looking for cover.




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Response to cali (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:30 AM

50. and yes, Trump is partially responsible

Trump and Al-Baghdaddi of Daesh a.k.a Isis are very much alike in that they encourage violence of their supporters, then act like you cannot blame them for stoking up the environment that encourages violence. When Trump profits from violence, he only encourages those who also profit from it, namely these domestic Daesh whose "Islamic studies" mainly consisted of a bucnh of bad You Tube Videos made by someone in hiding, just like their brothers in spirit, the "white power" movement.

IT says a lot about Trump and Daesh that they both targeted Gays, and targeted Latinos. They are both of the same father, Lucifer, who, according to Islamic myth, rebelled against God because he and many other angels did not want to stoop to serving Mankind. This will not be the first or last, especially as those who also profit from violence, the gun makers, have pretty much made sure that it is easier to boy a military grade weapon in Florida than it is to buy a car. There is plenty of blood for everyone's hands, bt sadly, those who Lucifer loves best know how to turn that blood into fuel.

But it is because of events like this that Trump needs to have a leash round his neck. For that matter, many of those self-declared "liberals" whose attitudes about Latinos, Gays, are not that different from Trump need one too.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:52 AM

52. Horrible. So sad.

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