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babylonsister

(171,021 posts)
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:14 AM Jun 2016

Omar Mateen was the shooter's name. From Pt. St. Lucie, FL, and

Last edited Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:05 PM - Edit history (2)

a US citizen. Hate crime? Domestic terrorism? Sounds like it. CBS News.

Edit to add my apologies for spelling his name wrong. I realized it almost immediately but then my ISP went down in central FL.

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Omar Mateen was the shooter's name. From Pt. St. Lucie, FL, and (Original Post) babylonsister Jun 2016 OP
"Orlando authorities said they consider the violence an act of domestic terror." Rose Siding Jun 2016 #1
MATEEN, MATEEN, MATEEN...not Martine. Barack_America Jun 2016 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #2
Omar Mateen is the name melman Jun 2016 #3
"born to Afghan parents" pintobean Jun 2016 #4
WAPO link BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #5
Please change the name to the correct name... Mateen, NOT Martine. boston bean Jun 2016 #6
US Citizen but Trump will use this to defend his xenophobic ideas. DCBob Jun 2016 #7
Like Trump and his followers give 2 shits about gay people nt maryellen99 Jun 2016 #8
He's already tweeted about it in a general way.. DCBob Jun 2016 #10
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #15
That is some xenophobic bullshit. blackspade Jun 2016 #25
Of course..... US Citizen..... Fla_Democrat Jun 2016 #9
Yep.. that is what I am expecting. DCBob Jun 2016 #12
RWers are in a conundrum with this one maryellen99 Jun 2016 #13
True.. but I suspect they will exploit the Muslim stuff and bite the bullet on the other. DCBob Jun 2016 #19
Also get to ready to hear "they deserved it because they were gay" maryellen99 Jun 2016 #21
Ugh.. yeah some will say that no doubt. DCBob Jun 2016 #23
It's already happening...and don't count out Trump saying something homophobic either maryellen99 Jun 2016 #24
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2016 #32
It would be Islamic terrorism from a domestic source. FLPanhandle Jun 2016 #11
Please correct the name in your OP. yardwork Jun 2016 #14
born in New York in 1989 n/t malaise Jun 2016 #16
You are wrong about the shooters name. Please correct this! boston bean Jun 2016 #17
CORRECT THE NAME IN YOUR OP. THIS IS REALLY IRRESPONSIBLE. yardwork Jun 2016 #18
I miss the unrec. If you are going to post the alleged shooter's name... PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #20
MSNBC just read a statement from the shooter's father BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #22
So he's blaming the LGBT community for existing, not his hateful son and the things he taught him. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #26
It's a hate crime regardless. BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #30
Many anti gay hate crimes are motivated by the attacker's religious bias. It is not one or the other Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #31
Dylann Roof was a devout Christian uponit7771 Jun 2016 #33
As I said, many hate crimes are motivated by the attacker's religion. It's just a fact. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #38
Sorta. Devout might not be the best description FrodosPet Jun 2016 #56
In America BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #36
Is your misreporting of his name intentional? Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #27
Correct your damn headline. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #28
I alerted to have the thread closed because of the misinformation. auntpurl Jun 2016 #34
You alerted on a spelling error? pintobean Jun 2016 #37
Well if your name was Omar Martine, you'd want it fixed. nt B2G Jun 2016 #39
I totally agree and am very sorry. nt babylonsister Jun 2016 #52
No worries B2G Jun 2016 #53
Brighthouse. A good-sized babylonsister Jun 2016 #54
Well don't sweat it B2G Jun 2016 #58
Yes, and I did too philosslayer Jun 2016 #40
The shooter is dead. pintobean Jun 2016 #47
New to the Internet? n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #49
Idiots on the Internet? FrodosPet Jun 2016 #57
It's a hell of a lot more than a spelling error. yardwork Jun 2016 #41
I alerted to the forum hosts. This is an exceptional situation. yardwork Jun 2016 #42
So didn't I. I think they can lock it up. boston bean Jun 2016 #43
That's outside of their responsibilities. pintobean Jun 2016 #45
That's not his name. It's Omar Mateen Renew Deal Jun 2016 #29
Admins or Hosts - can you correct the name in the OP? DawgHouse Jun 2016 #44
Ya think someone might mistake a live person pintobean Jun 2016 #46
An alert failed 1-6. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #48
APOLOGIES for spelling his name wrong; my ISP babylonsister Jun 2016 #50
A few posts was all that was necessary. This piling on garbage wasn't really needed to call your still_one Jun 2016 #51
Don't worry. herding cats Jun 2016 #55

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
4. "born to Afghan parents"
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:32 AM
Jun 2016
Law enforcement sources told CBS News the gunman has been identified as Omar Mateen, a U.S. citizen from Port St. Lucie. Mateen was born to Afghan parents in 1986.

CBS News reports that authorities are “leaning towards Islamic terrorism” as a motive.


http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/06/12/orlando-nightclub-shooting/

maryellen99

(3,785 posts)
8. Like Trump and his followers give 2 shits about gay people nt
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:48 AM
Jun 2016

I think if it was a white straight club he would but the fact that it was a gay club-Not so much.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
10. He's already tweeted about it in a general way..
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:57 AM
Jun 2016
Donald J. TrumpVerified account
?@realDonaldTrump
Really bad shooting in Orlando. Police investigating possible terrorism. Many people dead and wounded.


I suspect his next one will be more like what I was talking about.

Response to maryellen99 (Reply #8)

Fla_Democrat

(2,547 posts)
9. Of course..... US Citizen.....
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:55 AM
Jun 2016
the gunman has been identified as Omar Mateen, a U.S. citizen from Port St. Lucie. Mateen was born to Afghan parents in 1986.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/06/12/orlando-nightclub-shooting/


The line of attack will be that he was.... an anchor baby.

The fact that he was under the radar for 30 years will only show how sneaky sleeper cells can be.




DCBob

(24,689 posts)
12. Yep.. that is what I am expecting.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:58 AM
Jun 2016

It will be sickening but it will hit hot buttons with many RWingers.

maryellen99

(3,785 posts)
24. It's already happening...and don't count out Trump saying something homophobic either
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:21 AM
Jun 2016

He doesn't have an inner filter. I expect Palin to.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
11. It would be Islamic terrorism from a domestic source.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:57 AM
Jun 2016

However, it's still unknown if he killed in the name of Islam or there was another motivation.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
20. I miss the unrec. If you are going to post the alleged shooter's name...
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:15 AM
Jun 2016

at least put in the effort to spell it correctly.

BumRushDaShow

(128,244 posts)
22. MSNBC just read a statement from the shooter's father
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:16 AM
Jun 2016

who believes that his son may have done this after being angered by "2 men kissing" in downtown Miami a couple months ago.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
26. So he's blaming the LGBT community for existing, not his hateful son and the things he taught him.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:36 AM
Jun 2016

Typical.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
31. Many anti gay hate crimes are motivated by the attacker's religious bias. It is not one or the other
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:19 AM
Jun 2016

It can be a religiously motivated terrorist hate crime. It being a hate crime does not mean that hate had no genesis. Sorry.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
38. As I said, many hate crimes are motivated by the attacker's religion. It's just a fact.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:52 AM
Jun 2016

Many hate crimes have a religious motive. Some hate crimes are also acts of terrorism.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
56. Sorta. Devout might not be the best description
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:31 PM
Jun 2016
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/17/us/charleston-shooting-dylann-roof-troubled-past.html?_r=0

Dylann Roof’s Past Reveals Trouble at Home and School

By FRANCES ROBLES and NIKITA STEWART - JULY 16, 2015


~ snip ~

He floated in and out of jobs, took drugs and drank, had run-ins with the police, began reading white supremacist websites and, in the months before the massacre, boasted of wanting to start a race war, friends and investigators say.

~ snip ~

Mr. Robinson-Heyward, who is black, said he saw little evidence of bigotry in the young Dylann. “To me, in the seventh grade, he saw black just as he saw white, you know,” said Mr. Robinson-Heyward, 20, who works in a funeral parlor and helped prepare for burial the bodies of two of the shooting victims.

~ snip ~

Several of Mr. Roof’s friends said he often complained that his father put him to work landscaping. Even in his youth, Mr. Roof began to exhibit a greater interest in smoking grass than cutting it. At 13, his mother caught him spending $50 he had earned landscaping on marijuana, Ms. Konzny said.

~ snip ~

“Lucy was visibly upset. She kept saying, ‘We’re so sorry, we are so sorry,’ ” said Ms. Devine, who is African-American. “They said they were going to stay prayed up and ask the Lord to help them through this. From what I know of them, their grief was sincere.”

~ snip ~

BumRushDaShow

(128,244 posts)
36. In America
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:26 AM
Jun 2016

Religion has been used for all sorts of hate. My ancestors were dragged here thanks to a religion that talked about a "Curse of Ham" and other nonsense.

The main point being that the media and LOE tend to obfuscate hate crimes by blaming certain religions being at fault for all the ills of the world, but won't apply it to others.

The argument rages today whether the below was religious-based terrorism that perpetuated hate crimes against certain groups -

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
34. I alerted to have the thread closed because of the misinformation.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:22 AM
Jun 2016

But it had already been alerted and was allowed to stand. I hate misinformation being spread when such an important news story is breaking.

babylonsister

(171,021 posts)
54. Brighthouse. A good-sized
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:02 PM
Jun 2016

portion of central FL was out; I know someone 15 miles away who also lost it. No idea why.

yardwork

(61,526 posts)
41. It's a hell of a lot more than a spelling error.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:05 PM
Jun 2016

It's irresponsible to post such a headline and not check back.

yardwork

(61,526 posts)
42. I alerted to the forum hosts. This is an exceptional situation.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:08 PM
Jun 2016

Since the OP has not been able to correct the headline, the hosts could lock it.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
45. That's outside of their responsibilities.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:15 PM
Jun 2016

We don't need them assuming more power than they already have. I trust that most of them have no desire to do this.

DawgHouse

(4,019 posts)
44. Admins or Hosts - can you correct the name in the OP?
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:12 PM
Jun 2016

It may seem like a minor thing, unless your name is Omar Martine!

still_one

(92,054 posts)
51. A few posts was all that was necessary. This piling on garbage wasn't really needed to call your
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:11 PM
Jun 2016

attention to the spelling

sorry

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