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Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:14 AM

Omar Mateen was the shooter's name. From Pt. St. Lucie, FL, and

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a US citizen. Hate crime? Domestic terrorism? Sounds like it. CBS News.

Edit to add my apologies for spelling his name wrong. I realized it almost immediately but then my ISP went down in central FL.

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Reply Omar Mateen was the shooter's name. From Pt. St. Lucie, FL, and (Original post)
babylonsister Jun 2016 OP
Rose Siding Jun 2016 #1
Barack_America Jun 2016 #35
rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #2
melman Jun 2016 #3
pintobean Jun 2016 #4
BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #5
boston bean Jun 2016 #6
DCBob Jun 2016 #7
maryellen99 Jun 2016 #8
DCBob Jun 2016 #10
Post removed Jun 2016 #15
blackspade Jun 2016 #25
Fla_Democrat Jun 2016 #9
DCBob Jun 2016 #12
maryellen99 Jun 2016 #13
DCBob Jun 2016 #19
maryellen99 Jun 2016 #21
DCBob Jun 2016 #23
maryellen99 Jun 2016 #24
uponit7771 Jun 2016 #32
FLPanhandle Jun 2016 #11
yardwork Jun 2016 #14
malaise Jun 2016 #16
boston bean Jun 2016 #17
yardwork Jun 2016 #18
PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #20
BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #22
Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #26
BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #30
Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #31
uponit7771 Jun 2016 #33
Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #38
FrodosPet Jun 2016 #56
BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #36
Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #27
Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #28
auntpurl Jun 2016 #34
pintobean Jun 2016 #37
B2G Jun 2016 #39
babylonsister Jun 2016 #52
B2G Jun 2016 #53
babylonsister Jun 2016 #54
B2G Jun 2016 #58
philosslayer Jun 2016 #40
pintobean Jun 2016 #47
PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #49
FrodosPet Jun 2016 #57
yardwork Jun 2016 #41
yardwork Jun 2016 #42
boston bean Jun 2016 #43
pintobean Jun 2016 #45
Renew Deal Jun 2016 #29
DawgHouse Jun 2016 #44
pintobean Jun 2016 #46
PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #48
babylonsister Jun 2016 #50
still_one Jun 2016 #51
herding cats Jun 2016 #55

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:25 AM

1. "Orlando authorities said they consider the violence an act of domestic terror."

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Response to Rose Siding (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:24 AM

35. MATEEN, MATEEN, MATEEN...not Martine.

Since my alert didn't go through.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:27 AM

3. Omar Mateen is the name

Not Martine.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:32 AM

4. "born to Afghan parents"

 

Law enforcement sources told CBS News the gunman has been identified as Omar Mateen, a U.S. citizen from Port St. Lucie. Mateen was born to Afghan parents in 1986.

CBS News reports that authorities are “leaning towards Islamic terrorism” as a motive.


http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/06/12/orlando-nightclub-shooting/

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:46 AM

6. Please change the name to the correct name... Mateen, NOT Martine.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:47 AM

7. US Citizen but Trump will use this to defend his xenophobic ideas.

This is really bad in many ways.

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Response to DCBob (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:48 AM

8. Like Trump and his followers give 2 shits about gay people nt

I think if it was a white straight club he would but the fact that it was a gay club-Not so much.

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Response to maryellen99 (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:57 AM

10. He's already tweeted about it in a general way..

Donald J. TrumpVerified account
‏@realDonaldTrump
Really bad shooting in Orlando. Police investigating possible terrorism. Many people dead and wounded.


I suspect his next one will be more like what I was talking about.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #15)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:24 AM

25. That is some xenophobic bullshit.

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Response to DCBob (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:55 AM

9. Of course..... US Citizen.....

the gunman has been identified as Omar Mateen, a U.S. citizen from Port St. Lucie. Mateen was born to Afghan parents in 1986.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/06/12/orlando-nightclub-shooting/


The line of attack will be that he was.... an anchor baby.

The fact that he was under the radar for 30 years will only show how sneaky sleeper cells can be.




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Response to Fla_Democrat (Reply #9)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:58 AM

12. Yep.. that is what I am expecting.

It will be sickening but it will hit hot buttons with many RWingers.

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Response to DCBob (Reply #12)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:59 AM

13. RWers are in a conundrum with this one

They hate both Muslims and Gays.

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Response to maryellen99 (Reply #13)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:14 AM

19. True.. but I suspect they will exploit the Muslim stuff and bite the bullet on the other.

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Response to DCBob (Reply #19)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:16 AM

21. Also get to ready to hear "they deserved it because they were gay"

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Response to maryellen99 (Reply #21)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:17 AM

23. Ugh.. yeah some will say that no doubt.

I dont think the Trump or GOP leaders will.

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Response to DCBob (Reply #23)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:21 AM

24. It's already happening...and don't count out Trump saying something homophobic either

He doesn't have an inner filter. I expect Palin to.

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Response to DCBob (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:20 AM

32. +1

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:57 AM

11. It would be Islamic terrorism from a domestic source.

However, it's still unknown if he killed in the name of Islam or there was another motivation.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:01 AM

14. Please correct the name in your OP.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:05 AM

16. born in New York in 1989 n/t

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:10 AM

17. You are wrong about the shooters name. Please correct this!

Omar Mateen is the name.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:11 AM

18. CORRECT THE NAME IN YOUR OP. THIS IS REALLY IRRESPONSIBLE.

You are spreading misinformation.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:15 AM

20. I miss the unrec. If you are going to post the alleged shooter's name...

at least put in the effort to spell it correctly.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:16 AM

22. MSNBC just read a statement from the shooter's father

who believes that his son may have done this after being angered by "2 men kissing" in downtown Miami a couple months ago.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #22)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:36 AM

26. So he's blaming the LGBT community for existing, not his hateful son and the things he taught him.

 

Typical.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #26)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:40 AM

30. It's a hate crime regardless.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #30)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:19 AM

31. Many anti gay hate crimes are motivated by the attacker's religious bias. It is not one or the other

 

It can be a religiously motivated terrorist hate crime. It being a hate crime does not mean that hate had no genesis. Sorry.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #31)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:20 AM

33. Dylann Roof was a devout Christian

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #33)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:52 AM

38. As I said, many hate crimes are motivated by the attacker's religion. It's just a fact.

 

Many hate crimes have a religious motive. Some hate crimes are also acts of terrorism.

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #33)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:31 PM

56. Sorta. Devout might not be the best description

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/17/us/charleston-shooting-dylann-roof-troubled-past.html?_r=0

Dylann Roof’s Past Reveals Trouble at Home and School

By FRANCES ROBLES and NIKITA STEWART - JULY 16, 2015


~ snip ~

He floated in and out of jobs, took drugs and drank, had run-ins with the police, began reading white supremacist websites and, in the months before the massacre, boasted of wanting to start a race war, friends and investigators say.

~ snip ~

Mr. Robinson-Heyward, who is black, said he saw little evidence of bigotry in the young Dylann. “To me, in the seventh grade, he saw black just as he saw white, you know,” said Mr. Robinson-Heyward, 20, who works in a funeral parlor and helped prepare for burial the bodies of two of the shooting victims.

~ snip ~

Several of Mr. Roof’s friends said he often complained that his father put him to work landscaping. Even in his youth, Mr. Roof began to exhibit a greater interest in smoking grass than cutting it. At 13, his mother caught him spending $50 he had earned landscaping on marijuana, Ms. Konzny said.

~ snip ~

“Lucy was visibly upset. She kept saying, ‘We’re so sorry, we are so sorry,’ ” said Ms. Devine, who is African-American. “They said they were going to stay prayed up and ask the Lord to help them through this. From what I know of them, their grief was sincere.”

~ snip ~

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #31)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:26 AM

36. In America

Religion has been used for all sorts of hate. My ancestors were dragged here thanks to a religion that talked about a "Curse of Ham" and other nonsense.

The main point being that the media and LOE tend to obfuscate hate crimes by blaming certain religions being at fault for all the ills of the world, but won't apply it to others.

The argument rages today whether the below was religious-based terrorism that perpetuated hate crimes against certain groups -

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:36 AM

27. Is your misreporting of his name intentional?

 

nt

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:37 AM

28. Correct your damn headline.

 

FFS...

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Response to Lizzie Poppet (Reply #28)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:22 AM

34. I alerted to have the thread closed because of the misinformation.

But it had already been alerted and was allowed to stand. I hate misinformation being spread when such an important news story is breaking.

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Response to auntpurl (Reply #34)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:30 AM

37. You alerted on a spelling error?

 

Jeez.

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Response to pintobean (Reply #37)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:02 PM

39. Well if your name was Omar Martine, you'd want it fixed. nt

 

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Response to B2G (Reply #39)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:49 PM

52. I totally agree and am very sorry. nt

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Response to babylonsister (Reply #52)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:55 PM

53. No worries

 

You must have TWC.

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Response to B2G (Reply #53)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:02 PM

54. Brighthouse. A good-sized

portion of central FL was out; I know someone 15 miles away who also lost it. No idea why.

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Response to babylonsister (Reply #54)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:43 PM

58. Well don't sweat it

 

It's been a tense day. Glad you're back.

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Response to pintobean (Reply #37)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:02 PM

40. Yes, and I did too

 

If your name was Omar Martine, this thread will show up on search results

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Response to philosslayer (Reply #40)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:21 PM

47. The shooter is dead.

 



Only an idiot would misidentify a live person for this dead killer.

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Response to pintobean (Reply #47)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:46 PM

49. New to the Internet? n/t

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Response to pintobean (Reply #47)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:33 PM

57. Idiots on the Internet?

Unpossible!

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Response to pintobean (Reply #37)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:05 PM

41. It's a hell of a lot more than a spelling error.

It's irresponsible to post such a headline and not check back.

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Response to auntpurl (Reply #34)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:08 PM

42. I alerted to the forum hosts. This is an exceptional situation.

Since the OP has not been able to correct the headline, the hosts could lock it.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #42)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:11 PM

43. So didn't I. I think they can lock it up.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #42)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:15 PM

45. That's outside of their responsibilities.

 

We don't need them assuming more power than they already have. I trust that most of them have no desire to do this.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:37 AM

29. That's not his name. It's Omar Mateen

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:12 PM

44. Admins or Hosts - can you correct the name in the OP?

It may seem like a minor thing, unless your name is Omar Martine!

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Response to DawgHouse (Reply #44)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:19 PM

46. Ya think someone might mistake a live person

 

for a dead mass murderer?

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Response to DawgHouse (Reply #44)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:44 PM

48. An alert failed 1-6. n/t

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:07 PM

50. APOLOGIES for spelling his name wrong; my ISP

went down as soon as I posted this so could not correct.

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Response to babylonsister (Reply #50)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:11 PM

51. A few posts was all that was necessary. This piling on garbage wasn't really needed to call your

attention to the spelling

sorry

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Response to babylonsister (Reply #50)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:14 PM

55. Don't worry.

It was an accident, and we all make those.

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