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Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:54 AM

Omar Mateen, Terrorist Who Attacked Orlando Gay Club, Had Been Investigated by FBI

Mateen was a ‘known quantity’ to federal law enforcement before he killed 53 people in the worst mass shooting in U.S. history.

Omar Mateen of Port Saint Lucie, Florida, came to the attention of federal authorities twice prior to being identified as the gunman in the Orlando nightclub mass shooting, a senior law enforcement source told The Daily Beast.

Mateen 53 people and shot more than 100 in total at the Pulse gay nightclub early Sunday morning, in the deadliest mass shooting in modern American history.


The senior law enforcement source reports that Mateen became a person of interest in 2013 and again in 2014. The Federal Bureau of Investigation at one point opened an investigation into Mateen but subsequently closed the case when it produced nothing that appeared to warrant further investigation.


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/12/omar-mateen-id-d-as-orlando-killer.html

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Reply Omar Mateen, Terrorist Who Attacked Orlando Gay Club, Had Been Investigated by FBI (Original post)
boston bean Jun 2016 OP
Barack_America Jun 2016 #1
Station to Station Jun 2016 #2
Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #7
Mojorabbit Jun 2016 #17
Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2016 #21
KeepItReal Jun 2016 #3
Kang Colby Jun 2016 #4
Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #10
Kang Colby Jun 2016 #14
Marengo Jun 2016 #5
6chars Jun 2016 #6
WhiteTara Jun 2016 #11
6chars Jun 2016 #13
Abq_Sarah Jun 2016 #20
KeepItReal Jun 2016 #8
DCBob Jun 2016 #9
Kang Colby Jun 2016 #16
DCBob Jun 2016 #18
Kang Colby Jun 2016 #19
DCBob Jun 2016 #22
Kang Colby Jun 2016 #23
DCBob Jun 2016 #24
uponit7771 Jun 2016 #12
NightWatcher Jun 2016 #15

Response to boston bean (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:56 AM

1. I will be very interested to know how he got the assault weapon.

Surely he was not permitted to have one? Surely our gun laws are not that lax.

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Response to Barack_America (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:58 AM

2. Err, Obama has addressed this

he is literally powerless to stop people on watch-lists from purchasing guns.

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Response to Barack_America (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:00 PM

7. From what I have read, he was a security guard and licensed to conceal carry.

The non-automatic version of the AR-15 is legal and conversion kits are reported to be available.

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Response to Barack_America (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:58 PM

17. He had a state firearm license and a security guard license so he passed

all the background tests. This makes one wonder what exactly the FBI had investigated him for.

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Response to Barack_America (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:24 PM

21. Aaron Alexis, the Virginia naval yard shooter had a secret security clearance even though

he had been psychiatrically diagnosed as dangerous.

Background checks are mostly worthless if the authorities don't/won't do their jobs.

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Response to boston bean (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:58 AM

3. Then what President Obama said holds

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Response to boston bean (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:58 AM

4. Why didn't they charge him and prosecute? That's the question we should be asking. n/t

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Response to Kang Colby (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:07 PM

10. It's one thing for law enforcement to have a very bad feeling about someone,

but quite another to find probable cause for an arrest, let alone proof beyond reasonable doubt for a conviction.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #10)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:54 PM

14. Well, in this country a "very bad feeling"

does not equate to due process. Charge and prosecute people like this in conspiracy charges, let them have their day in court.

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Response to boston bean (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:59 AM

5. Twice? I wonder, should that alone have made him ineligible to pass a background check...

 

To purchase a firearm?

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Response to Marengo (Reply #5)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:00 PM

6. he was a security guard

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Response to 6chars (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:43 PM

11. No background checks for security guards?

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #11)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:49 PM

13. with some work for federal govt

go figure.

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #11)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:20 PM

20. You can be a person of interest

And still pass a background check. Due process precludes stripping rights from people who haven't actually violated the law.

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Response to Marengo (Reply #5)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:00 PM

8. Watch this video for an explanation

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Response to Marengo (Reply #5)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:02 PM

9. Exactly what I was thinking.

If that is not part of background check it needs to be added. There are way too many slipping through the cracks and being allowed to purchase guns.

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Response to DCBob (Reply #9)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:57 PM

16. You are essentially advocating that we do away with due process protection.

No, thanks. This guy should have been charged and imprisoned on conspiracy charges but we can't allow LE to make extrajudicial lists outside of due process protection.

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Response to Kang Colby (Reply #16)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:16 PM

18. Why? We already make lists based on other matters.

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Response to DCBob (Reply #18)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:18 PM

19. We don't make lists to deny rights without due process.

And no, I do not support Bush era "no fly lists".

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Response to Kang Colby (Reply #19)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:33 PM

22. You may not like them but we do make lists.

In matters like this they seem necessary.

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Response to DCBob (Reply #22)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:35 PM

23. You agree with the Bush/Cheney era approach to civil liberties.

I don't.

We simply disagree, and that is OK.

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Response to Kang Colby (Reply #23)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:42 PM

24. President Obama retained the noflylist program.

I trust his judgment on this matter.

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Response to boston bean (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:45 PM

12. So... how was he able to get his hands on a weapon DESIGNED to kill a lot of humans?!

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Response to boston bean (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:55 PM

15. He passed a "background check" and had a security guard license

https://licensing.freshfromflorida.com/access/individual.aspx

If he was being investigated by the FBI either they found something or they didn't. The truth is that until they commit a crime, there might not be grounds to detain.

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