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Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:02 PM

Thank you all for your support towards us LGBT community but.....

As a member of that community. I just don't feel safe. I'm always wondering whose going to take their gun out and shoot me because they don't like that I'm gay. Whose going to harass me because I'm gay. Whose going to protect us from the gun violence out there? But the most important thing I have to ask is when will the hate against us stop? I just have given up hope on humanity. I have given up hope on the human race. I just have no faith anymore at all.

I am sad beyond belief and terrified

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Reply Thank you all for your support towards us LGBT community but..... (Original post)
Coolest Ranger Jun 2016 OP
Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #1
David__77 Jun 2016 #2
villager Jun 2016 #3
rurallib Jun 2016 #18
villager Jun 2016 #23
LWolf Jun 2016 #4
cagefreesoylentgreen Jun 2016 #5
Lisa0825 Jun 2016 #6
FDR_Liberal Jun 2016 #7
Coolest Ranger Jun 2016 #8
FDR_Liberal Jun 2016 #12
passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #29
3catwoman3 Jun 2016 #33
Chellee Jun 2016 #34
FDR_Liberal Jun 2016 #38
ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #24
PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #9
TimeToEvolve Jun 2016 #10
sheshe2 Jun 2016 #11
BootinUp Jun 2016 #13
Odin2005 Jun 2016 #14
wildeyed Jun 2016 #15
LineReply .
SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #16
MFM008 Jun 2016 #17
Boomer Jun 2016 #19
Amimnoch Jun 2016 #21
passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #30
retrowire Jun 2016 #20
ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #22
lunatica Jun 2016 #25
passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #37
JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #26
maryellen99 Jun 2016 #27
Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #28
Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #31
alarimer Jun 2016 #40
roamer65 Jun 2016 #32
Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2016 #35
SCantiGOP Jun 2016 #36
Skittles Jun 2016 #41
alarimer Jun 2016 #39
Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #42

Response to Coolest Ranger (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:05 PM

1. And you are not alone in your sadness.

 

This horror is part and parcel of the status quo I am fed up with. The status quo is terrifying.

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:06 PM

2. Gay people have faced this for some time.

And it's not just guns; it's bombs and knives and fists as well. And it's motivated by different ideas.

I don't have "the" answer. What does occur to me is that we need better security and we need to identify and rehabilitate or remove from society those elements that would do us harm.

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:07 PM

3. It is terrifying. And I don't think anyone feels safe right now.

 

And I certainly understand the extra layers of terror and vulnerability one would feel as a member of the LGBT community.

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Response to villager (Reply #3)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:28 PM

18. well expressed. We don't feel safe simply because we have expressed our liberalism.

The poster has legitimate fears based on their sexuality. Others because of their skin color or their religion or some other aspect that makes them 'different.' This was not the promise of America.

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Response to rurallib (Reply #18)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:11 PM

23. Heck, I'm Jewish!

 

We've long been on the exact same "radar..."

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:07 PM

4. At this moment,

I am terrified for my trans family member, and for my gay friends and students. I can't do anything at this moment but tell you this:

I stand with you.

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:08 PM

5. *hugs*

I feel much the same, as I'm a queer transman who is post-op but pre-HRT (I can't do HRT for personal and medical reasons right now).

I've been getting a lot of stares and side-eyes lately, and with the current atmosphere I've been paranoid enough to consider wearing a body cam everywhere I go.

*much hugs for my LGBT sisters and brothers and non-binaries all over today*

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:11 PM

6. I'm so sorry.

I was out with 2 gay friends last night, and then I woke up to this horrible news. Thinking about how this makes me feel, in contrast to how they must feel... So many emotions going through my head right now.

I wish we could just reboot society.

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:14 PM

7. Im right there with you

 

As a closeted gay man, who has been trying to build up the courage to finally come out, something like this happens and pushes me deeper in the closet. I am so sick of the LGBT+ community being treated like were digusting, immoral, pieces of s***.

What a depressing day....

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Response to FDR_Liberal (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:17 PM

8. I know what it is like to be in the closet

there are still some family members I'm not comfortable in coming out to because they don't think I have noticed but I pay attention to how they react to straight people versus gay people and its the difference between night and day. My natural father knows, my grandmother knows but beyond that I haven't told anyone yet because of the fear that I might be rejected

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:25 PM

12. Had to deal with a form of that today

 

While watching the coverage, my mom says something along the lines of, im not crazy about guys kissing either but these people are nuts......ughhhh
Im out to my best friend and hisbolder brother but thats it. Wont come out to my bro and probably not my mom for some time, thankfully my dad has been catching on to me a bit and vocally trying to make known his support for the LGBT community.

Oh and by the way, if youre gay and want to donate blood for the victims...you cant because you're gay and may have aids/hiv. Wait, youve been celibate since 1978? Nope, still dont want your blood.

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Response to FDR_Liberal (Reply #12)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:49 PM

29. If something like this doesn't change people's thinking

im not crazy about guys kissing either


You know what Mom? If everyone were kissing instead of shooting those they hate, this world could be a beautiful place.

I love to see people kissing and I don't give a fig what their sexual orientation is. Love is beautiful.

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Response to passiveporcupine (Reply #29)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:56 PM

33. " If everyone were kissing instead of shooting those they hate, this world could be...

...a beautiful place."

Well and powerfully said.

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Response to FDR_Liberal (Reply #12)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 03:18 PM

34. I'm so sorry you had to deal with this any day, not just today.



You're right. This is wrong, every bit of it.

I wish I could offer you more than a virtual hug, but I can't stop crying long enough to even think. I don't even know any of these people, but I'm just so sick and furious that this happened. I just keep thinking about that poor, terrified woman looking for her missing son, knowing that his boyfriend was fighting for his life in the hospital, and that they would have been sitting together. I'm just sick thinking about it. These poor families, these poor people, God, we have to make this stop.

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Response to Chellee (Reply #34)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 06:29 PM

38. That mother looking for her son kills me

 

I cannot watch that without crying my eyes out. Even thinking about it make me tear up.

We need to stop the violence. At home and abroad, were all human beings, we need to be in this together. If we stay on this track of hatred and selfishness, we wont be able to survive as a species.

My thoughts will be with those in Orlando and with all my lgbt brothers and sisters. We cant be tricked into thinking were winning the battle against the bigotry just because we have an openly gay athlete, or a fortune 500 buisness person who is gay. Those are victories but only minor ones.
We need to keep fighting for a society where love is the most important pillar that holds us up.

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Response to FDR_Liberal (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:20 PM

24. Think about this

It is very likely someone today will find out for the first time their son or daughter was gay, because of this event......

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:17 PM

9. I am so sorry. I stand with you and all of my LGBT friends and family.

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:20 PM

10. yes humans can be the most disgusting species on the planet.

just trust Mother Nature to end it all soon.

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:22 PM

11. I stand with you....

And the entire Community.

~ Coolest Ranger

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:29 PM

13. Hate speech leads to awful things, it should be outlawed. nt

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:32 PM

14. [[[vibes for Coolest Ranger]]]

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:35 PM

15. I'm sorry.

It's not right.

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:36 PM

16. .

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:42 PM

17. So sorry friend

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:31 PM

19. What makes it even worse...

Too often the most virulent haters are people who can't cope with their own fears of being gay. The sight of gay people triggers fear, self-loathing and they lash out.

We're not safe because we live in a society that twists people into knots, turns them into powder kegs, and they take out that anger on us, the gay community that dares celebrate who we are.

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Response to Boomer (Reply #19)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:42 PM

21. Sexual repression is one of the most damaging things that can happen

 

To the human psyche.

There are many papers and publications in Psychiatry and Psychology about this phenomenon.

Here's one article that I've kept bookmarked on that topic:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/201004/sexual-repression-the-malady-considers-itself-the-remedy

Few things promote murder, sexual abuse, sexual assault, and pedophilia as the very religion based doctrines that are "supposed" to be preventing these kinds of acts.

I believe Steven Weinberg said it best: "Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."

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Response to Amimnoch (Reply #21)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:55 PM

30. "But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."

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Or propaganda. People who are easily led to hatred, fall for propaganda.

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:39 PM

20. You have a friend in this straight white male.

You have a friend in so many others too.

I have gay family that I wish I could hug right now and I don't understand any of this nonsense either.

We need love. And we need it in abundance.

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:54 PM

22. K&R

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:31 PM

25. Heavy legal punishment to the perpetrators will stop many of these crimes

It is no longer OK to dismiss violence against any group of people in this country and the punishment for these acts should be speedy and effective and it should be quite unforgiving.

The entire rape incident in Stanford shows that women also have reason to fear for their safety and lives as we speak.

Zero tolerance for hate crimes and terrorist acts has to be universal and 100% active.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #25)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 06:05 PM

37. I'm not sure punishment can stop this

After all, terrorism and mass shootings have been increasing and most of the perps are killed in the act. There is usually no one left to punish, and the next perp just idolizes the notoriety of the last one who died, for taking out a bunch of innocent people first. The Aurora shooter was not killed in the act, but he's been declared mentally ill.

The people doing this, whether driven by hate of gays or driven by terrorism, are willing to die in their final act of getting attention.

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:39 PM

26. K and R

And I hurt for you.

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:41 PM

27. This hits too close to home my moms goddaughter is lesbian and just got married this past year

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:43 PM

28. k&r

((hugs))

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:55 PM

31. And spare a thought for closeted gay people in Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Iran, Afghanistan, Nigeria,

and all the countries where being gay is illegal and subject to execution or whipping and imprisonment.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #31)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 07:09 PM

40. Really?

Don't be afraid here because other people have it worse????

Jesus wept.

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:56 PM

32. I think all gays should consider getting a CC and actively carrying a gun.

You have very little choice but to protect yourself.

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 03:20 PM

35. I hear you.

For the very little that's worth. Wish I knew what to do or say that would ease your suffering.

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 04:45 PM

36. We're all in this together

Gay or straight is irrelevant. This is an assault on the human race.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #36)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 07:23 PM

41. it is relevant when you are specifically targeted

women very often feel the same way - it's something that stays with you, a kind of uneasiness

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 07:08 PM

39. You are right to be afraid, considering how many people are allowed to carry weapons

Everywhere we all go, there are people who walk around armed, because they are paranoid freaks.

But they are more of a threat.

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:07 PM

42. I totally understand!

 

I have spent decades being afraid of rape and abuse! I have watch judges give men a pass when they rape us or kill us. I have watched for decades as police dont interecede when woman at stalked and terrified because you know "they haven't done anything yet! "

Until we live in a country a world where hate is wrong and religion is not allowed to paint a group as bad just be cause they were born a woman or gay we are screwed!!!

Thankfully LOVE will win! I hope it is in my lifetime!

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