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Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:58 PM

Ex-wife of suspected Orlando shooter: ‘He beat me’

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/ex-wife-of-suspected-orlando-shooter-he-beat-me/2016/06/12/8a1963b4-30b8-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html?tid=sm_tw


The ex-wife of the 29-year-old man suspected of killing 50 people in a Orlando nightclub early Sunday said that he was violent and mentally unstable and beat her repeatedly while they were married.

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“He seemed like a normal human being,” she said, adding that he wasn’t very religious and worked out at the gym often. She said in the few months they were married he gave no signs of having fallen under the sway of radical Islam. She said he owned a small-caliber handgun and worked as a guard at a nearby facility for juvenile delinquents.

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The ex-wife said her parents intervened when they learned Mateen had assaulted her. Her father confirmed the account and said that the marriage lasted only a few months.


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Response to suffragette (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:00 PM

1. If she had taken out a protective order against him, he would have had to surrender his guns.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:03 PM

2. So, there may be a social responsibility in identifying criminals.

Beating someone is a crime. And I think it's a good indication that the person is a danger to those beside the person being beaten.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:04 PM

3. +1000. Great call. eom.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:07 PM

4. Great point. The article notes her family helped her, but nothing about going to the

Police.

I added the sentence about her family assisting her to the OP.

Wonder if that would have impacted his security job in a juvenile detention center as well.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:11 PM

8. +1, it would be good for more people to know this

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Response to yardwork (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:17 PM

10. Except that taking out a protective order against a violent person greatly

increases the risk of being murdered. That's why shelters for victims of domestic abuse are in secret locations and why women give up their cellphones so they can't be found. Yes, it would have been better for society if he had lost his gun permit, but there is no certainty that that would actually have happened.

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Response to s-cubed (Reply #10)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:37 PM

11. Correct. I'm certainly not saying it's her fault. It's his fault.

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Response to s-cubed (Reply #10)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:46 PM

14. Sadly true. There must be a better way to protect victims of domestic abuse

We need to start there.

A better way to protect and help them would likely lead to more safety for the rest of society as well.

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Response to suffragette (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:08 PM

5. I just erased a hate-filled reply.

I can't let him do that to me. I can't. Oh, my heart.



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Response to nolabear (Reply #5)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:10 PM

7. I understand - completely.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #5)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 07:12 PM

16. Don't. So not worth it.

 

I did the same thing earlier today, so not worth it.

Peace.

Love.

Friendship.

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Response to suffragette (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:09 PM

6. the first people i want to have to surrender their guns, en masse

is perpetrators of domestic violence.
if there is a better indicator of a potential to kill someone than that, i dont know what it is or could be.

i know in illinois, you get convicted, or get an order of protection taken out against you, you lose the right to own a gun. but in few jurisdictions do they actually knock on your door and take them away.

i wonder sometimes what a world we would have if we stopped treating this as some understandable, personal act, and started treating it an attack on the foundation of society that it is. we hear that, the family is the cornerstone. then we treat what happens in the family like some isolated sphere in which we shouldnt "interfere".

beating a child should be the highest crime their is. beating your partner should be #2.

family family family we cry. then we turn our backs.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:17 PM

9. Absolutely agree with all you say here.

Thank you saying it so eloquently.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:40 PM

12. Agreed. Domestic violence is an indication of violence.

Too often our justice system still refuses to see domestic violence for what it is. Excuses are made for the perpetrators. We need to recognize that violence is violence, and violent people will escalate their behavior if they aren't stopped.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:40 PM

13. Didn't Chris Christie recently veto that in NJ?

I 100% agree with you.

If someone is violent to a member of their household, they shouldn't be trusted with a gun.

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Response to MH1 (Reply #13)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 07:09 PM

15. i believe he did.

covering for his own ass? i wonder.

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Response to MH1 (Reply #13)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 07:13 PM

17. Chris Christie is also the guy who wants every pot smoker put in prison

Priorities!

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