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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs the message is shifting from anti-gay murder to ISIS sponsored killing...minimizing the deaths of
real people for political purposes? Just woke up here so have not followed this story closely but
already looks like some are trying to score political points and making the dead look like martyrs instead of a persecuted minority killed by the gun cult
And Fox has already blamed Pres Obama for being soft on terrorism
Mass
(27,315 posts)and with no proof that the guy did not act alone.
David__77
(23,329 posts)I imagine that more than a few people pledge allegiance to Islamic State "alone." I don't think someone needs a membership card to be motivated by an organization and ideology.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)can be swept up in the ISIS propaganda, and their calls for more murders.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)I do get that multiple issues make it hard to use this event to bludgeon opponents, though.
Southerncomfy
(117 posts)crowd. The dead are to be used as pawns in a larger political game for them.
Southerncomfy
(117 posts)Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)but just an agenda. Which is shame.
Southerncomfy
(117 posts)VERYMINUTE.
i'm on your side ... come on guys.
Kang Colby
(1,941 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)The NRA types want Islam in the middle of this because then they can distract from the issue with our insane gun laws.
Others want to downplay the fact that fundamentalist Islam teaches 'death to gays' and "10x the rewards" for martyrdom during Ramadan.
Hate comes from a lot of ideologies. As much as it is human nature, we can't put everything neatly into predefined boxes.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)There is a difference. You're doing your own agendizing and politicizing.
TwilightZone
(25,428 posts)primarily by anti-gay bigotry. It's also possible that both are factors. Things are rarely a simple matter of black and white.
"You're doing your own agendizing and politicizing."
Look in the mirror.
gwheezie
(3,580 posts)To me, the 911 call he made claiming the isil connection and the target of his rage don't exclude each other.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)cagefreesoylentgreen
(838 posts)On the road here and noticing a few radio jockeys tiptoeing around the fact it was a gay nightclub.
CherokeeDem
(3,709 posts)allegiance to ISIL will cloud the message. Hopefully, the fact that ISIL is anti-gay and targets the LGBT population will promote discussion of both reasons for this horrible event.
We cannot allow the press or anyone to forget... these innocent people were targeted for who they love. Despicable.
msongs
(67,361 posts)B2G
(9,766 posts)That is not a bad thing. We need the full story and to want anything else speaks more of an agenda than not.