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Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:58 PM

Gun apologists are swarming DU today.

Defending their right to Weapons Of Mass Destruction.

That's what the Second Amendment has accomplished.


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Reply Gun apologists are swarming DU today. (Original post)
onehandle Jun 2016 OP
HassleCat Jun 2016 #1
uponit7771 Jun 2016 #3
JonathanRackham Jun 2016 #53
Laha Jun 2016 #96
CincyDem Jun 2016 #2
Iggo Jun 2016 #8
InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #58
PJMcK Jun 2016 #81
InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #95
tenderfoot Jun 2016 #4
InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #59
Initech Jun 2016 #5
TeddyR Jun 2016 #6
840high Jun 2016 #38
Iggo Jun 2016 #7
99th_Monkey Jun 2016 #9
ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #46
rockfordfile Jun 2016 #10
beevul Jun 2016 #11
CincyDem Jun 2016 #14
beevul Jun 2016 #16
CincyDem Jun 2016 #19
jamzrockz Jun 2016 #32
CincyDem Jun 2016 #34
jamzrockz Jun 2016 #35
treestar Jun 2016 #85
beevul Jun 2016 #93
ileus Jun 2016 #92
Hoyt Jun 2016 #33
frazzled Jun 2016 #12
liberalnarb Jun 2016 #13
Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #15
etherealtruth Jun 2016 #56
B2G Jun 2016 #17
840high Jun 2016 #39
ileus Jun 2016 #66
B2G Jun 2016 #73
Orrex Jun 2016 #18
catnhatnh Jun 2016 #22
Orrex Jun 2016 #27
Dem2 Jun 2016 #31
pintobean Jun 2016 #20
hunter Jun 2016 #21
pintobean Jun 2016 #24
hunter Jun 2016 #62
Marengo Jun 2016 #68
hunter Jun 2016 #71
Marengo Jun 2016 #72
hunter Jun 2016 #77
Marengo Jun 2016 #82
hunter Jun 2016 #84
Marengo Jun 2016 #86
pintobean Jun 2016 #70
hunter Jun 2016 #79
pintobean Jun 2016 #80
hunter Jun 2016 #83
Marengo Jun 2016 #89
jmg257 Jun 2016 #23
AntiBank Jun 2016 #25
Angel Martin Jun 2016 #42
AntiBank Jun 2016 #44
lancer78 Jun 2016 #47
liberal N proud Jun 2016 #26
lancer78 Jun 2016 #48
liberal N proud Jun 2016 #57
lancer78 Jun 2016 #60
Skittles Jun 2016 #28
left-of-center2012 Jun 2016 #29
still_one Jun 2016 #30
Odin2005 Jun 2016 #36
SwankyXomb Jun 2016 #37
alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #40
Dem2 Jun 2016 #45
Skittles Jun 2016 #54
smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #61
Marengo Jun 2016 #69
SCantiGOP Jun 2016 #41
Angel Martin Jun 2016 #43
lancer78 Jun 2016 #49
L. Coyote Jun 2016 #50
Skittles Jun 2016 #55
villager Jun 2016 #51
JohnnyRingo Jun 2016 #52
Dem2 Jun 2016 #65
JohnnyRingo Jun 2016 #88
FLPanhandle Jun 2016 #63
ileus Jun 2016 #64
Night Watchman Jun 2016 #67
romanic Jun 2016 #74
Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #75
MariaThinks Jun 2016 #76
Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2016 #91
Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #78
Bettie Jun 2016 #87
Johonny Jun 2016 #90
KamaAina Jun 2016 #94

Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:00 PM

1. Swarming?

 

Careful. I think you may be building a straw man. I haven't seen that many.

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Response to HassleCat (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:04 PM

3. There are more than 1, 1 more than there should be

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Response to HassleCat (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 05:51 AM

53. Just the usual flame bait.

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Response to HassleCat (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 02:03 PM

96. I've been lurking for around 10 years

Usually keep my opinion to myself. But I've seen so many that I haven't been able to stop myself from arguing. I'm getting burned out just continuing to read.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:03 PM

2. Have to care for "The Precious". n/t

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Response to CincyDem (Reply #2)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:10 PM

8. Save the guns. Fuck the people.

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Response to Iggo (Reply #8)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:05 AM

58. That pretty much sums it up... the "gun nuts" have won. If this latest tragedy doesn't lead to sensible gun control, NOTHING will!

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #58)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:04 PM

81. I thought the same thing about Sandy Hook (n/t)

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Response to PJMcK (Reply #81)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 01:59 PM

95. Yeah... the NRA has its lobbyist claws into too many Congress critters.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:06 PM

4. Such a shame that they're never there to save the day.



They're online complaining about gun free zones.

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Response to tenderfoot (Reply #4)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:05 AM

59. Yup... strange, isn't it?

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:07 PM

5. Fuck those people.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:09 PM

6. I don't think weapon of mass destruction

 

Means what you think it means. If you want to ban guns then get enough votes to repeal the 2d Amendment and make it happen. A terrorist is responsible for this tragedy.

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Response to TeddyR (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:34 PM

38. .that^

 

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:09 PM

7. Guns are more important than people.

America!

Fuck yeah!

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:10 PM

9. Saying an AR-15 "is not an assault rifle".

 

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #9)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 01:16 AM

46. Whoever is saying that would be correct.

While the AR-15 rifles often meet the artificial definition of "assault weapons", "assault weapons" and assault rifles are not the same thing. However, the term "assault weapon" was purposely chosen to cause confusion.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:13 PM

10. They're essentially giving support for this terrible tragedy by no matter what happens.

They're essentially giving support for this terrible tragedy by no matter what happens.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:16 PM

11. "Gun apologists"

 

That's what you call people who blame the shooter instead of the gun, because you blame the gun.

I can't say I've seen you or any of the other gun hating folks say much about the asshole that made decision on top of decision directly leading up to this shooting. I've seen more vitriol by far directed at everyone that didn't do it. The nra, gun culture, ad nauseum.

I also can't say that surprises me.

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Response to beevul (Reply #11)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:23 PM

14. Yeah - cuz this would have been much worse if...



...in his hatred, instead of reaching for his handy-dandy easy access assault rifle, he had to reach for some else.

Like maybe a rock. I guess you think we'd be reading headlines about an attacker in Orlando killing 50 people with...a rock.

The shooter wouldn't be a "shooter" without the American infatuation with guns. Instead, he might only be a rock thrower. Still a hater but not a killer.

It doesn't surprise me that the NRA, the gun culture and the ad nauseum want to focus on the person rather than the guns. Then they don't have to admit that the magnitude of the destruction between a shooter and a rock thrower is solely because of their presence in the world.

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Response to CincyDem (Reply #14)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:33 PM

16. Thats just the kind of canned response I expected.

 

Yeah - cuz this would have been much worse if......in his hatred, instead of reaching for his handy-dandy easy access assault rifle, he had to reach for some else.


Yeah, it definitely wouldn't have happened if we had gun laws like...france.

Like maybe a rock. I guess you think we'd be reading headlines about an attacker in Orlando killing 50 people with...a rock.


Are you proposing background checks on gasoline?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster


The shooter wouldn't be a "shooter" without the American infatuation with guns. Instead, he might only be a rock thrower. Still a hater but not a killer.


Just like the rock throwers in France, right? I guess that big bad nra went international huh?

It doesn't surprise me that the NRA, the gun culture and the ad nauseum want to focus on the person rather than the guns.


That's good. It shouldn't. The person made the decision. I didn't make it. You didn't make it. The nra didn't make it. 'Gun culture' didn't make it.

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Response to beevul (Reply #16)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 05:11 PM

19. talk about predictable. lol



Of course the "gun culture" didn't make it...they just enable it to become a massacre.

Thanks for pulling out all the NRA talking points in one place. Whenever I hear you guys say "France"...all I can think of it Dan Ackroyd from the Coneheads.

In the past 16 years, 155 people have died in mass killings in France(130 in a single terrorist attack).
In the past 16 years, 440 people have died in mass killings in the US.

When it comes to "canned responses", it sounds like you've already got your tweet from the NRA with the company line. I wish I were surprised but it's as expected.

Have a nice day.

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Response to CincyDem (Reply #19)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 07:09 PM

32. Do you know

 

Last edited Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:10 PM - Edit history (1)

The US has 7.5x as many people as France? just saying

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Response to jamzrockz (Reply #32)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 07:48 PM

34. DOH...you're kidding. There are more people in the US than France ?




Da fuk...now it all makes sense to me. I've been such a jerk to not join the cult of the NRA. How ever will I atone. Time for me to prostate myself at the altar of the gun manufacturers and their false equivalencies. Where do I sign up. Guns for everyone !!!

Cuz god f'ing knows we don't want to be like France.

7.5x...Da fuk...

Have a nice day.



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Response to CincyDem (Reply #34)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:13 PM

35. Then why in the world did you

 

post a total number of mass shooting victims instead of a per capita one? If I didn't know any better, I would have thought that you were trying to use statistics to fool DU readers.

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Response to beevul (Reply #16)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:14 PM

85. well how often does it happen in France?

gun laws might not stop it all, but it could stop a lot of it.

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Response to treestar (Reply #85)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:53 PM

93. Thats the wrong question.

 

The right question is: Do gun laws prevent it there at all?

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Response to beevul (Reply #16)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:49 PM

92. If only we could ban guns then no one would ever get killed again...

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Response to beevul (Reply #11)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 07:10 PM

33. If you detest gunz, you detest those who promote and need them to enjoy life.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:18 PM

12. Don't engage with them

We're right, they are wrong. They will never accept that. So I think the best thing is to state our positions, but refuse to listen to their excuses. There is NO excuse for these weapons. Putting aside any other issues that pertain to this tragedy--terrorist tactics and ideology, hatred and bigotry--the issue of guns remains an equal and critical issue.

We must remain steadfast on all fronts: solidarity with the LGBTQ community, resistance against terrorist ideologies and methods, AND the rational, essential need to enact gun laws at the federal level in this country.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:19 PM

13. Yes, its disgusting.

 

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:24 PM

15. Totally predictable. Happens every time there's a mass shooting.

Makes it a sickening experience to come here for information.

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Response to Crunchy Frog (Reply #15)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 06:01 AM

56. Every single damned time

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:37 PM

17. Plenty of radical Islam apologists about as well. nt

 

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Response to B2G (Reply #17)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:37 PM

39. I saw that immediate

 

when the news broke.

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Response to B2G (Reply #17)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:17 AM

66. That's okay because Islam is the enemy of our real enemy....Christianity

We can't bash Islam without giving the GOPers a foothold on being right in their hate. GOP = Christians.

So we give Islam a pass and blame guns.

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Response to ileus (Reply #66)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:37 AM

73. Yes, you're probably right, but

 

what is continually ignored here is the fact that one of our biggest group of supporters in the Dem party are African Americans...who take their Christian faith very seriously.

If the average black voter read some of these post bashing their religion, they would be mortified.

Makes the mind boggle, really.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:38 PM

18. My ignore list has grown considerably today

I'm tired of coddling the gun zealots who don't give a shit about tens of thousands of murders as long as their precious guns are safe.

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Response to Orrex (Reply #18)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 06:17 PM

22. Make sure I'm on the list

Hell I became a "gun zealot" when the US government took me and taught me to use an M-16...the AR15's meaner, full automatic older brother. I didn't notice a fucking person complaining then. Oh-and do you expect those millions of troops coming back from battlefields all around the world will give up packing a gun? If not are they also gun humping assholes?

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Response to catnhatnh (Reply #22)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 06:52 PM

27. Thanks for the tip.

Oh-and do you expect those millions of troops coming back from battlefields all around the world will give up packing a gun?
Are you seriously justifying the carrying of a firearm in civilian life on the basis that you needed one while actively serving in the military? Do you know how crazy that sounds?

Since you decided to pull rank, here's how I'll answer: while you're serving in the military in a military capacity (i.e., not on leave and not in reserve on US soil) then you're welcome to wield whatever firearms the chain of command has deemed appropriate to the situation and setting. But when you're back in the civilian world, where there is no fucking need to own an AR-15, then I expect you to behave like a civilian.

Had you been an explosives expert during military life, I wouldn't give you the thumbs up to stockpile C-4 just because you feel like it.

If you feel the need to pack an AR-15 in civilian life, then perhaps it's best that you not have access to one.



Reply or don't, because I sure as hell won't see it.

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Response to catnhatnh (Reply #22)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 07:01 PM

31. Done

Added to the normal nastiness I've come to expect, this just confirms what I already had suspected.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 05:13 PM

20. We're seeing just the opposite.

 

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Response to pintobean (Reply #20)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 06:10 PM

21. What do you mean, pintobean?

Please explain.

Defending guns is disgusting on a day like this.


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Response to hunter (Reply #21)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 06:48 PM

24. Anyone can read the posts about guns

 

and see what's there. It's not as the OP claims.

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Response to pintobean (Reply #24)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:08 AM

62. I've engaged a few.

Rapid-fire gun fetishists are disgusting.

Every one of them is a potential terrorist.


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Response to hunter (Reply #62)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:25 AM

68. Define "rapid-fire".

 

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Response to Marengo (Reply #68)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:32 AM

71. Yep. Disgusting.

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Response to hunter (Reply #71)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:35 AM

72. Huh? It's a simple question posed out of curiosity for how you define "rapid-fire"...

 

As the term seems no have no firm definition.

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Response to Marengo (Reply #72)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:55 AM

77. Because that's just another common ploy of the gun lovers.

Whatever guns you are defending, that's probably the sort I'm talking about.

My brother has my grandpa's bolt action deer rifle, but nobody in my family cares to hunt anymore.

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Response to hunter (Reply #77)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:08 PM

82. I'm not defending anything in this conversation, simply asking for your definition of

 

"Rapid-fire". It means something quite different to many. As has been demonstrated on DU, some think it's the ability to fire more than one round without a manual reload. Others seems to define that by how many rounds the magazine holds, or what mechanism loads a new cartridge into the chamber. so, within the perimeters of the widely varying definitions, who is a potential terrorist?

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Response to Marengo (Reply #82)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:13 PM

84. Who the fuck cares?

Some men talk about guns like other men talk about porn stars.

No thanks.

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Response to hunter (Reply #84)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:17 PM

86. Non-responsive. Why are you so evasive? You clearly have a definition in mind...

 

Why not share it?

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Response to hunter (Reply #62)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:29 AM

70. That hyperbole has nothing to do

 

with the fact that the OP is inaccurate.

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Response to pintobean (Reply #70)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:00 PM

79. My wife just asked me why I'm typing so hard.

Good thing I'm not shooting bullets, right?

Yep, I'm angry, and I'm disgusted by anyone who'd defend their own gun fetishes at a time like this.

Let them cower in their filthy caves.

Every one of them is a potential terrorist.

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Response to hunter (Reply #79)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:03 PM

80. I guess that explains the lack of substance

 

and inability to stay on topic?

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Response to pintobean (Reply #80)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:11 PM

83. Piss on guns. That's MY topic.

I have no idea what your topic is, you being so terse.

The second amendment as many interpret it is just as fucked up as "constitutional" slavery was.

The gun fucks will vote for Trump. There's no need to coddle them here.

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Response to hunter (Reply #79)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:38 PM

89. Who is a potential terrorist?

 

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 06:38 PM

23. Haven't read too many apologize for shit. Ny

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Response to jmg257 (Reply #23)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 06:49 PM

25. because it's a strawman argument, designed to whip conflict

 

When I see people willing to admit that a repeal of the 2nd Amendment would ignite a limited scale civil war from coast to coast and they accept the loss of life that will absolutely occur if the police state tries to confiscate hundreds of millions of firearms, well then we have a serious discussion.

The votes will never come for repeal. I also think something more limited DOES need to happpen. That said, nothing can stop all or even a majority of random and determined lone wolfs.

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Response to AntiBank (Reply #25)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:01 PM

42. that is what is so bizarre

we want to confiscate guns to prevent violence.

So we advocate an action that will lead to civil war and probably hundreds of thousands of deaths....

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Response to Angel Martin (Reply #42)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:17 PM

44. it's because people do not fully think out consequences, they just knee-jerk babble feel good fluff

 

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Response to AntiBank (Reply #44)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 02:58 AM

47. Most gun control laws

 

like the AWB can be compared to Mastu***tion. It feels good but doesn't accomplish anything.

Laws like waiting periods for handguns and background checks ARE effective, and is why the murder rate has gone down 50% in the last couple decades.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 06:52 PM

26. Standard practice after every shooting

Same tired message, generated by the gun industry, touted by the NRA and regurgitated by the gun apologists.

How many more?

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #26)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 03:00 AM

48. And than

 

you have the standard practice of the gun-grabbers, calling for gun bans and confiscation in clear violation of at least 2 of the Bill of Rights.

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Response to lancer78 (Reply #48)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 06:23 AM

57. There you have it - your right to own guns overrides 50 peoples right to life

Put that in perspective!

Gun nuts think it is a small sacrifice to kill thousands of innocent people each year so they can wave an AR-15 in the air and shout freedom.

How many have to die? How many?

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #57)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:01 AM

60. All you have to do to ban guns

 

is remove the 2nd and 5th amendments. Shouldn't be that hard right? FYI I don't own any guns. Legally unable to do so because of past mental health issues.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 06:53 PM

28. they can all fuck themselves

fucking COWARDS

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 06:55 PM

29. This is no time for alarmists

There is no swarming of gun defenders on DU.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 06:56 PM

30. There is no need for civilians to possess automatic assault weapons with large clips, whose

only purpose is to kill people

As far as other types of guns though, in responsible civilian hands, used for hunting and the like I see no problem, unless of course they go hunting with Dick Cheney

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:25 PM

36. As opposed to authoritarians who are always exploiting tragedies?

I am 100% OK with Obama's proposals on guns, what I am not OK with is all the posters here screaming "BAN ALL GUNS LIKE IN AUSTRALIA!!!"

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:28 PM

37. They only love their guns

Concern for the victims, and maybe preventing some of these incidents in the future, never enters into their cold, dead hearts.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:50 PM

40. Gunner trash are the worst piece sof shit on the Internet

 

Ignore those assholes.

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #40)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:17 PM

45. You got that right

I never tell people if I'm gonna iggy them - except gun-nuts.

They need to know that I consider them to be human excrement.

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #40)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 05:55 AM

54. biggest cowards on the planet

seriously

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #40)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:04 AM

61. +1000

I despise them!

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #40)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:28 AM

69. Who on DU qualifies as "gunner trash"?

 

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:49 PM

41. Confront them

Reasonable people know that banning assault weapons is not going to threaten the right of a sane American to own a pistol, hunting rifle or shot gun.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #41)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:03 PM

43. part of the credibility problem

elected Democrats have on guns is the far left calling for confiscation when the elected politicians say they are not going to do that

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 03:01 AM

49. They start in

 

because some gun-grabber started in first. I will wager you a hundred bucks that if noone mentioned banning guns, no gun apologists would say anything.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 03:04 AM

50. Lots of strawmen running about too. And the Trump trolls think this is all about Trump.

The Trump trolls are drooling for a bump in Trump's numbers, as if hate became more popular today! How perverse is that expectation?

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #50)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 05:55 AM

55. that's fear talking

paranoid gun humpers react to fear

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 03:05 AM

51. They are sick obsessive puppies. Not sure why DU thinks a welcome mat needs to be laid for NRA

 

...talk-point pushers...

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 04:06 AM

52. Gun ownership is not a partisan issue.

Nearly as many Democrats own guns as Republicans these days. They aren't mostly kooks or fetishists either, most have reasons to own one and don't plan to scrap it.

Proposing overreaching gun bans is political suicide for either party. That may frustrate some, but it's the real reason nothing is ever done.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #52)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:14 AM

65. It isn't

...and this gun owning liberal is all for reasonable steps to make it more difficult for people to own the types of weapons used to slaughter dozens of people as fast as one can pull the trigger. It's really kind of obvious, if a revolver is good enough for home defense, then nothing of greater capacity or rep-rate is needed for hunting.

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Response to Dem2 (Reply #65)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:35 PM

88. I'm mostly with you

When I was young we had to go to a dealer to legally buy a gun. Now in Ohio we can go to a gun show and buy one from a private individual with no accountability. I imagine the gun dealers are with me that that loophole should be closed.

I believe there are limited uses for tactical firepower however, though I personally don't need or have any. If, for instance, I had to drive the perimeter of a ranch in BFE Montana mending fences and rounding up strays, I wouldn't mind having a high power semi auto in the gun rack of the truck.

People who say they need one because they might have to battle Seal Team 6 in a hypothetical revolution are delusional.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:12 AM

63. More Islamic extremist apologists here than gun apologists.

IMHO, both sets of apologists are wrong.

We can blame both Islam and Gun Laws.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:14 AM

64. Scumbag bastards.

Fuck the NRA.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:19 AM

67. TELL me about it!

 

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:40 AM

74. I've been accused of being one.

And that is not the case with me. I support the right to bear arms for protection; an assault rifle doesn't fall under protection though. It's an assault weapon with the purpose of killing off a number of insurgents in war, not to carrying around to protect. That's where the line should be drawn.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:46 AM

75. We take the White House and the Senate which is likely

We put judges on the court who can read and understand what militia means. There is no individual right to carry.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:48 AM

76. i'm a huge supporter of gun laws. But the Boston marathan killers used bombs, not guns.

and this disgusting murderer had explosives that would have been used, even if he did not have guns.

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Response to MariaThinks (Reply #76)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:47 PM

91. And not to minimize the three people who were killed and dozens that were injured in Boston...

....Omar Mateen's legally purchased AR-15 inflicted over 16 times more in terms of lethality.

Guns are still far and away the most efficient and effective way to inflict mass causalities.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:59 AM

78. People rightly discern that religious radicals are trying to kill them.

 

How will you convince such people that disarming is a good idea right now?

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:28 PM

87. The thing that makes me most angry

is this:

Had this been an accident, a fire or some other tragic accidental occurrence, there would be steps taken to reduce the chances of a similar incident.

Because this was a gun related incident, a mass murder, we can be certain that no steps will be taken, in fact, some state legislators will be tripping over each other to decrease regulations to ensure that it DOES happen over and over.

In an accident, tragic loss of life can mean greater safety for others.

In a mass shooting in the US, the tragic loss of life is doubly senseless because it will eventually lead to fewer regulations and more killing. People are barely even shocked by this anymore.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:44 PM

90. The paid lobbyists of the NRA flock to the DU every mass shooting

The gun manufacturers will not be denied their money they make from the gun fear.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:55 PM

94. Must be a day that ends in a 'y'.

 

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