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The Olando shooter was investigated by the FBI and STILL got a concealed gun permit in FL (Original Post) jpak Jun 2016 OP
And he worked for a Jupiter Security Firm RockaFowler Jun 2016 #1
I think that everyone being investigated TeddyR Jun 2016 #2
He was investigated and no evidence found Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #3
Un fucking believable redstateblues Jun 2016 #4
Why? He was never charged, let alone convicted. AllTooEasy Jun 2016 #15
Hillary Clinton is being investigated by the FBI. Should she be allowed to buy a gun? Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2016 #5
He was never charged. Innocent until proven guilty Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #6
He got a permit because of liberal political correctness and their denial of Muslim extremism! tenderfoot Jun 2016 #7
and Diversity!!11111 jpak Jun 2016 #8
Spot on....n/t busterbrown Jun 2016 #13
Actually, promoting an AR ban will better further one in "every household." Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #18
Your comment makes me see red! Quackers Jun 2016 #17
Too busy going out of their way to not see Dylann Roof as a terrorist? ck4829 Jun 2016 #9
As well as a history of domestic violence brentspeak Jun 2016 #10
"...hidden history of prospective permit holders." Old Southern post Civil War gun laws... Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #19
How about the standards brentspeak Jun 2016 #22
You seem obsessed with the NRA. But I would not want someone who... Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #23
And he was accused of domestic abuse SecularMotion Jun 2016 #11
Unbelievable..Just Unbelievable. n/t busterbrown Jun 2016 #14
Too bad nothing cam of the accusations. IIRC, Florida doesn't require a spouse to fike Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #21
Newsweek story on this Lance Bass esquire Jun 2016 #12
We like to bury hour head in the sand, and ignore reality... ileus Jun 2016 #16
He was in a well-regulated militia! Nevernose Jun 2016 #20

RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
1. And he worked for a Jupiter Security Firm
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 03:25 PM
Jun 2016

So I have no doubt he would be able to get a weapon anytime he wanted

He's worked there since 2007

 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
2. I think that everyone being investigated
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 03:26 PM
Jun 2016

By the FBI should lose their right to vote. So Hillary is out. Due process be damned.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
5. Hillary Clinton is being investigated by the FBI. Should she be allowed to buy a gun?
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 03:27 PM
Jun 2016

Although it should be pointed out -- the job she is applying for will allow her to have all the guns.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
13. Spot on....n/t
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 03:40 PM
Jun 2016

May I add that so many in our country were hoping this attack was planned and carried out with
direct assistance from isis leaders in the Mid-East...

This way the NRA and their lovers could easily promote that every Household needs an AR15 ....

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
10. As well as a history of domestic violence
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 03:33 PM
Jun 2016

Had Florida LE been allowed and required to conduct personal interviews with friends/family/neighbors concerning the hidden history of prospective permit holders, that information would have come out.

In the sane gun states, that would have been enough to (properly) deny him a permit. Then he would have had to try to his luck obtaining his weapons on the black market. Any attempt at doing so might have (not guaranteed, but might have) ended up in total failure, resulting in him getting caught by LE before this massacre took place.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
19. "...hidden history of prospective permit holders." Old Southern post Civil War gun laws...
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 04:52 PM
Jun 2016

didn't need all that subtlety. They just allowed local Sheriffs to find the "history," or said it outright. So, what are your standards of history?

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
22. How about the standards
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:29 PM
Jun 2016

Last edited Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:03 AM - Edit history (1)

that say that someone who boasts about "wanting to kill people all the time" shouldn't be allowed to legally purchase a firearm?

Or are you so absolutely captured by NRA-type propaganda that you consider such a thing to be an "infringement" on a likely killer's Constitutional rights?

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
23. You seem obsessed with the NRA. But I would not want someone who...
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 03:35 PM
Jun 2016

"wants to kill peopl all the time" to have a gun. That is why we have civil commitments and orders which legally prevent people who are mental incompetents from obtaining guns. It's called due process, as in the 5th Amendment. The 5th isn't propaganda, is it? My reading of that Amendment shows it not to be an "NRA TalkingPoint.©"

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
21. Too bad nothing cam of the accusations. IIRC, Florida doesn't require a spouse to fike
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 04:59 PM
Jun 2016

charges, but can bring a charge based on other evidence.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
20. He was in a well-regulated militia!
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 04:52 PM
Jun 2016

What else was the government supposed to do? Appoint people who aren't right wing hacks to SCOTUS and make laws & judicial decisions that are for the benefit of all Americans and not just the weapons corporation and their bribes to politicians? That's just crazy!

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