Call it what it is

[maxrandb]

It's not Radical Islamic Terrorism"

It's not Radical Christian Terrorism"

It's Radical CONSERVATIVE Terrorism"!!

The hate spewed by the Taliban or ISIS is the same hate that is spewed by CONservatives. They simply replace the word God, Jesus or Lord with Allah.

11 of the 17 Republican Presidential candidates appeared at an event where the host called for the murder of LGBT people.

Trump just spoke at the Faith and Freedom group that praises attacks on Planned Parenthood and the murder of abortion providers.

Listen to just a few minutes of AM Hate Radio, and you'll soon learn who it is, or which group you should hate.

Try to wish the 16 year old daughter of the President a "Happy Birthday", and you'll see people wishing that she get raped!???

Watch a fucking serving Senator pray a Psalm for the President that prays for his death and the desolation/destruction of his family.

I normally don't agree with Republicans, but in this case I do.

It's time we call these acts EXACTLY what they are...

Radical Conservative and Radical Republican Terrorism!

[Bonx]

1. Except he was a registered Democrat.

[MFM008]

3. we know this how?

first ive heard of it.

[Bonx]

4. From news articles today.

[passiveporcupine]

25. It doesn't matter how he registered.

He followed ISIS ideology. I think in his case, he was a distrubed and very angry man, and the anger consumed him. ISIS was an outlet for that anger, as his parents and ex wife said he was not religious.

Many conservatives are filled with fear and hate, because they need an enemy and conservative media and radio gives it to them.

Fear and anger and hatred are what is behind ISIS and much of what happens here at home. Hatred against gays, women, undocumented workers, anyone will serve as an enemy when you are looking for a place to hang your hatred.

Conservatives tend to be more fearful so fall for this more often than liberals.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

42. Not to mention,

that only proves he wasn't a Radical Republican. Does registering as a Democrat stop one from becoming a Radical Conservative?

[jpak]

5. Link?

n/t

[Bonx]

7. ...

http://flvoters.com/by_number/1144/84524_omar_mir_seddique_mateen.html

[bvar22]

9. From your link:

"OMAR MIR SEDDIQUE MATEEN was born 16 November 1986 and he lives (or lived) at 2513 S 17TH ST APT 107 in FORT PIERCE, St. Lucie County, Florida, U.S.A. His voter ID number is 114484524. He registered to vote 19 July 2006 and he is registered in the Florida Democratic Party.

The Florida Democratic Party is a little different from the rest of the Democratic Party.
They gave us Debbie Wasserman Schultz who refused to endorse Democrats for vulnerable Republican seats in 2008 because that might upset her Republican friends while she was the Chairwoman of the DCCCs Red to Blue Program.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251911615


Over 200,000 Florida "Democrats"
voted for George Bush in 2000,
handing the election to the Republicans.

[boston bean]

15. WTF. You slam DWS like this. Disgusting.

[bvar22]

20. What is it about the TRUTH that so disturbs you?

Some documented background on Debbie Wasserman Schultz:

In 2008 Debbie Wasserman Schultz refused to endorse these 3 Democrats
who had won their Primaries and had a chance to win Republican seats:

Miami-Dade Democratic Party Chair Joe Garcia

Former Hialeah Democratic Mayor Raul Martinez

Democratic businesswoman Annette Taddeo

All three had won their local Democratic Primaries, and were challenging Hard Core Republican incumbents with whom Wasserman-Schultz had become cozy.
Not only did the head of the DCCC Red to Blue Program REFUSE to endorse these Democratic challengers,
but she appeared in person at at least one (possibly more) Campaign/Fundraiser for their Republican opponents.



FL-18, FL-21, FL-25: Wasserman Schultz Wants Dem Challengers to Lose
by: James L.
Sun Mar 09, 2008 at 7:15 PM EDT
<snip>

Sensing a shift in the political climate of the traditionally solid-GOP turf of the Miami area, Democrats have lined up three strong challengers -- Miami-Dade Democratic Party chair Joe Garcia, former Hialeah Mayor Raul Martinez, and businesswoman Annette Taddeo to take on Reps. Mario Diaz-Balart, Lincoln Diaz-Balart and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, respectively.

While there is an enormous sense of excitement and optimism surrounding these candidacies, some Democratic lawmakers, including Florida Reps. Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Kendrick Meek, are all too eager to kneecap these Democratic challengers right out of the starting gate in the spirit of "comity" and "bipartisan cooperation" with their Republican colleagues:

But as three Miami Democrats look to unseat three of her South Florida Republican colleagues, Wasserman Schultz is staying on the sidelines. So is Rep. Kendrick Meek, a Miami Democrat and loyal ally to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

This time around, Wasserman Schultz and Meek say their relationships with the Republican incumbents, Reps. Lincoln Diaz-Balart and his brother Mario, and Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, leave them little choice but to sit out the three races.

"At the end of the day, we need a member who isn't going to pull any punches, who isn't going to be hesitant," Wasserman Schultz said.

Now, you'd expect this kind of bullshit from a backbencher like Alcee Hastings, but you wouldn't expect this kind of behavior from the co-chair of the DCCC's Red to Blue program, which is the position that Wasserman Schultz currently holds. Apparently, Debbie did not get Rahm's memo about doing whatever it takes to win:

The national party, enthusiastic about the three Democratic challengers, has not yet selected Red to Blue participants. But Wasserman Schultz has already told the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee that if any of the three make the cut, another Democrat should be assigned to the race.

http://www.swingstateproject.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1537

The bloggers also are furious with Rep. Kendrick B. Meek (D-Fla.), who similarly refuses to endorse the Democratic challengers to the three Cuban American Republicans.

They are calling for Wasserman Schultz to step down from her leadership role at the DCCC. And they're not letting up, even after one Florida liberal blogger reported that the congresswoman seemed "frustrated" by the blogs and had asked to "please help get them off my back."

This prompted even harsher reaction from perhaps the most influential of the progressive political bloggers, Markos Moulitsas, a.k.a. Kos, founder of Daily Kos, who wrote on his blog Wednesday: "On so many fronts, the Republicans are standing in the way of progress, on Iraq, SCHIP, health care, fiscal responsibility, corruption, civil liberties, and so on. Those three south Florida Republicans are part of that problem. And she's (Wasserman-Schultz) going to be 'frustrated' that people demand she do her job?"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/19/AR2008031903410_3.html

Here are Kos comments on the Wasserman-Schultz betrayal of the Democratic Party:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/03/20/480511/-DCCC-Says-Uproar-Over-DWS-Recusal-Much-Ado-About-Nothing




A lot of time has passed since 2008, but I don't take these kinds of betrayals lightly. Now I find that DWS has been PROMOTED from Chair of the Red to Blue Program
to Chair of the DNC. She must be making the "Centrist" Democratic Leadership VERY HAPPY if they are rewarding THIS kind of Party Treason.

bvar22
Cursed with a memory

"I want to thank Debbie Wasserman-Schultz for being an outstanding chair of our party. (Applause.) She is a great partner."--President Obama

With "partners" like this, we don't need Republicans!


Would you care to dispute these facts, or just continue to post your characteristic unfounded and unsupported one liner insults?

[boston bean]

26. What concerns me is any comparison to a fucking homophobic, radical islamist terrorist.

That's what not only concerns me, but disturbs me.

[bvar22]

27. I made no such comparison.

If there is one, it is inside your head.
Maybe you should get that checked out.

[Rex]

16. That is a privately owned website, there is no mention of him on the official Florida election

website.

[braddy]

35. The vast majority of Muslims vote Democratic.

[NV Whino]

8. Being a registered democrat doesn't mean you can't be conservative.

Just look at the presumptive nominee.

[SwankyXomb]

13. There are plenty of them here

Just read through the various threads on this incident, and they stick out like red right wings

[totodeinhere]

38. Yup, Kim Davis was also a registered Democrat.

I think she has subsequently changed it, but when she was blocking gay marriage applications she was a Democrat. Just having a "D" after your name doesn't necessarily make you a saint.

[Rex]

14. lulz you fell for it too huh?

The official Florida website for elections has no record of this guy, but a RWing website that is privately owned does...hmmm...

[uponit7771]

19. Red Herring, there are plenty of conservative democrats

[LiberalArkie]

33. Still conservative.. Kim Davis was Democrat but a conservative democrat.

It is conservatism that is the problem. There are liberal Baptists, Liberal Methodists, Liberal Islamists, there are Liberal Republicans (although not many any more) and there are liberal Democrats.

It is the conservatives that are the problems.

[IronLionZion]

40. So what? doesn't make him a Democrat

People register to vote in closed primaries, or don't really care which party matches their ideology when they register they just check a box.

I registered as a Republican many years ago. Do you think I'm conservative?

[JudyM]

2. I call it homophobia.

[elleng]

6. Sounds like it to me,

but haven't followed closely.

[Warren DeMontague]

10. We are not served by denying the link, here, to Radical Islam.

it sounds stupid. Just like denying the link to easy firearm access sounds stupid.

[Old Crow]

24. +1 (N/T)

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

11. Or, you were right in your first thought.

Radical Islamic Terrorism.

It's here.

[bvar22]

21. Would it be HERE....

...if we weren't THERE?
After all, we created ISIS with our misguided War Mongering policies in the Middle East.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

43. It serves the warmongers to have evil enemies.

If they have to create them, so be it, right?

[Dem2]

12. Radical Islam is just the Right-wing-nut-job version of Islam

ALL of these gun-loving terrorists are conservative nut-jobs, Christian, Muslim, Jew or even so-called 'progressives' that post right here on DU. I own guns and I know the difference between those who own but don't push crazy 2A hogwash talking points and those who own but are quiet and would gladly give them up if society decided it was the reasonable thing to do.

[uponit7771]

17. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! Conservatism fits all the religious sects of stupid

[Yo_Mama]

18. Yeah, Islamic terrorism. n/t

[Laha]

22. Religious terrorism

Religions teach to hate in this way. Whether or not he is religious now, someone taught him to hate.

Any are welcome to provide me with links to current non-religious organizations that regularly teach children this sort of hatred.

At the very least, any organization that teaches this sort of hate does not deserve public funding.

Even political labels are temporary and will not mean the same thing 50 years later.

The religions still keep teaching from the same books. Support the organization that teaches and you are supporting the resulting actions.

Trying to call it something else is only a form of manipulation that allows people to do the mental gymnastics that lead to this sort of thinking.

[passiveporcupine]

29. "Religions teach to hate in this way.

Whether or not he is religious now, someone taught him to hate."

Conservative religions may teach people to hate (although they claim not to), but there are many religions that are not conservative and that teach love instead of hatred.

Don't broad brush it.

I'm an atheist and am not here to defend religion, but many religious people are peaceful loving beings who would not attend a church that taught hatred.

[Laha]

30. I'll back down and retract that

Thanks for calling me on being too extreme.

I have to admit I've met more than my fair share of good, religious people. I'm sorry for letting my emotions get the best of me.

[passiveporcupine]

36. Thanks for being open to that

I had some friends in Colorado who belonged to a large church that split into two, because of half the congregation not being willing to accept gays. Of course my friends were part of the accepting half.

[Duppers]

34. You've articulated it logically

And factually, imo.

Well done.

[Laha]

37. I appreciate your support for my comment

And would just like to add, as per what passiveporcupine pointed out to me, labeling it as simply an 'all religions' problem ignores some important nuances to the situation and conversation. I wasn't trying to just say all religions are bad by default.

From here I think there may be a good opportunity for a conversation on how certain things are presented to youth based on their tendency to trust every word their parents' say. But that's a big can of worms, and possibly detracting from the current issues.

Thanks for your time.

[Duppers]

41. By its very nature, dogma is exclusionary.

Which tends to foster hate.

All, I think, religions have their own dogma.

Jainism might be an exception.

[Arugula Latte]

23. Oh, of course not! Religion is NEVER at fault! Never! Perish the thought!

[doc03]

28. Well turned on Fox and what are the focusing on, Obama didn't call it

radical Islamic terrorism and Obama used it to talk about gun control.

[cali]

31. what bullshit.

[Texasgal]

32. Why are we arguing sematics?

Damn, 50 people died! We need to focus!!

[elmac]

39. religion is the excuse,

weak gun control laws are the means, disenfranchised, easily brainwashed conservatives are doing the deed.

[burrowowl]

44. Damn Hate!