How to buy an AR-15 type rifle in Minnesota.

[MineralMan]

First, find a credit card with about $1000 of available credit in your wallet. Then, follow these steps:

1. Drive to the nearest Cabelas, Gander Mountain or Mills Fleet Farm store.
2. Walk to the section where firearms are sold.
3. Pick out your desired weapon. The helpful clerk can help you with this.
4. Fill out the form handed to you by the person at the counter. It is self explanatory.
5. Wait a few minutes for the federal database to clear your purchase. As long as you're not a convicted felon, no problem.
6. While you're waiting, pick up a few extra 30-round magazines and 1000 rounds of ammo for your new toy and bring them to the counter.
7. Hand your credit card to the clerk and sign the receipt.
8. Take your boxed rifle and the bag with the other goodies to your car and go home.

That's it. Use your new weapon as you choose. Do be careful. If you're unfamiliar with firearms, you could get lessons at a nearby range, but you'll find instructions in the box, too.

[still_one]

1. for hunting ducks I am sure

[MineralMan]

5. Oh, no. For ducks, you would choose a shotgun.

They sell those too.

[still_one]

14. Dick Cheney taught me that

[RoccoR5955]

62. Deer

and Wooly Mammoths.

[still_one]

64. Wooly Mammoths are a HUGE problem where I live

[Gomez163]

2. Isn't there a waiting period?

[MineralMan]

3. Nope. Only for handguns. Long guns you can

take home with you. Cash and carry. Some states, however do have waiting periods.

[GP6971]

9. One thing is for sure

they'll be a run on weapon and ammo purchases over the next couple of weeks no matter where you live in the US

[Agschmid]

50. Yup.

[Kaleva]

4. Step #5 is the waiting period

[Duckhunter935]

16. And since I already have weapons

The waiting period is pointless. And a terrorist or homophobic asshole like him would just wait the 10 days or so.

[Kaleva]

18. In Michigan, one just waits for the instant background check to go thru.

There is no waiting period for long guns here.

[Duckhunter935]

20. Same in Oklahoma

No waiting period for handguns either.

[roamer65]

29. Yup, and private sales on shotguns and rifles in MI have literally no restrictions.

They can be made on the spot and the person walks away with it, as long as they don't tell you they can't own one.

[lancer78]

48. Waiting periods would be irrelevant

for people like this shooter. Even if they were a year, he would just sit around and wait.

[doc03]

6. We will see the gungeon gang chime in on this. One excuse, you

need it because you could be attacked by a pack of killer coyotes.

[braddy]

7. Why did you leave out the 7 day waiting period?

[MineralMan]

11. Ah. Forgot. I have a transfer permit.

You're right.

[Duckhunter935]

17. By accident, I am sure

[braddy]

27. Why haven't you corrected or removed your OP, since you know that there is a 7 day waiting period?

[doc03]

8. Under the new West Virginia concealed carry for everyone law,

you can carry an AR-15 loaded up with a 30 round magazine but a knife with a blade over 3 1/2" is illegal.

[linuxman]

28. The conceal carry law has nothing to do with carrying a rifle.

[doc03]

33. Oh really you can't conceal an AR 15? My point was you can carry a deadly firearm but

they have laws against certain pocket knives.

[linuxman]

35. Feel free to set down that goal post.

You said nothing about carrying a rifle concealed. And I can't imagine you could conceal one if you tried.

[doc03]

38. Didn't Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris carry long guns under their coats? n/t

[doc03]

41. Yes I did I said under the WV law you could carry an AR-15 and a 30 round magazine

but not a pocket knife over 3 1/2 ". I guess because their is no big pocket knife lobby.

[linuxman]

49. There's nobody trying to ban them.

Or there would be.

The NRA grows stronger with every bleat of the controller crowd.

[doc03]

51. What are you talking about there are many knives that illegal to carry concealed?

Just why does anyone outside of the military or law enforcement need an AR-15 with a 30 round magazine or a Glock with a
19 round capacity?

[linuxman]

59. It's not called the bill of needs.

I carry a glock 19 because It has high capacity, good accuracy, and is proven reliable. I shoot an AR15 at the range for the same reasons. It's the weapon I trained with in the miltary, and I use both everyday at work. I suppose I mostly like having them because of the absolute conniptions my having them sends busybody little statists into. They froth at the mouth and pull their hair out, I calmly squeeze off another well placed group into the ten ring while admiring the great strides the gun rights movement has won. Yin/yang and all that.

I don't dignify "Why do you need?" posts.

All I "need" is to pay taxes and die. Food, shelter and water too, I suppose.

I'm not in the habit of making people rationalize what they need and don't need. Too totalitarian/Maoist for me.

Also, don't be obtuse. I said there isn't an active effort to ban knives. Stop reinterpreting what I say so as to make it more convenient for yourself.

[doc03]

34. Under the WV law what firearms are illegal to conceal? n/t

[linuxman]

36. All, without a permit

Guns anyway.

[doc03]

45. Wrong under WV law any WV resident can carry any legal weapon concealed without

any background check or permit in the state of WV.

[linuxman]

46. When did that change?

I've been out of the country for 3 months.

Good new though! can't wait to go home. A progressive victory.

[doc03]

55. I am not really sure I have seen dates May 24, 26, 31, June 1 in various news

outlets. I even went to the WV government site and couldn't find a definite date. The Republican legislature overrode the governors veto of the bill a while back but I don't know the exact date that it went into law. I don't know how it is a progressive victory. Just go and watch people come and go from Walmart for a while and ask yourself if you would want all of then carrying a gun .

[Duckhunter935]

10. Well I guess

We should ensure the database has accurate data.

[REP]

12. What are you doing to change the laws in Minnesota?

Here's how you buy one in California:

Find a dealer
Fill out paperwork, which includes a firearms safety test and background check form.
Buying 30-round magazines? Move to another state. Can't buy them in or have them shipped to California.
Pay for rifle if background check comes back clean.
Pick up rifle if detailed background check comes back clean after ten business day waiting period.

[roamer65]

21. I like how CA handles it.

[REP]

24. I wish there were a range test too

But yeah I think we're doing it well 😄

[oneshooter]

61. I just purchased a Ruger 556.

In Texas.
Go to store and find your rifle of choice.
Tell salesman what optics and mounts you want on it.
Store gunsmith mounts and bore sights. No charge.
Fill out form 4473, on a computer and sign.
Give salesman your Texas DL and LTC.
Pay, say good by, and leave with your new purchase.

[PoliticAverse]

13. "As long as you're not a convicted felon, no problem." - you might want to review the law.

As it isn't just convicted felons that are excluded from purchasing a firearm.

[Kaleva]

15. But convicted felons may be the only ones that show up in the database.

[Duckhunter935]

19. The state needs to ensure they

Provide the information to the database then. If not blame your state.

[Kaleva]

23. I think it's federal law that pretains to medical history. HIPAA?

[Duckhunter935]

52. I expect there are exceptions for

Law enforcement. There always are.

[Hoyt]

53. Why can't we blame gun profiteers and the sickos who need/buy guns to enjoy their life?

[DustyJoe]

25. more than just felons

As of January 31, 2014, there were over 3 million mental health records in NICS,9 with over one million records added in 2013 alone.

lacks the mental capacity to contract or manage his or her own affairs

http://smartgunlaws.org/mental-health-reporting-policy-summary/

No 2 covers the veterans adjudjed not able to control their funds and SS recipients with the same problem are covered by that statute.

Now I am sure the FBI could have flagged the Orlando shooters name/ID into the database if no as a 'do not sell' but at the least 'hold sale until reviewed by FBI'. Why they didn't after having him in their sights for 2 years is puzzling at best.

[jmowreader]

22. You're going to need a lot more money than that

AR-15s are not cheap, and in about a week the Eighth Annual Obama's Gonna Snatch Your Guns Any Second Now Sale (tm) will kick off with a vengeance so you'll never get that much ammo in one trip.

[Eric J in MN]

30. I just visited the Gander Mountain website.

One of their AR-15s is $930.

With taxes and ammo the total would be more than $1,000, but not much more.

[RoccoR5955]

63. Heck, you could get a used one from them for much less.

And I just saw a new one on sale for $699. Must be the annual, "Obama's Coming For Your Guns," sale.

[Waldorf]

58. In a week? I imagine there was a good run on guns/ammo today and tomorrow there will be some empty

shelves.

[Duckhunter935]

60. I doubt it

[scscholar]

26. That thousand rounds of ammo part is disturbing.

Why would a normal person need that much?

[Kaleva]

31. You just never know when dozens of bad guys may try to invade your home

[Travis_0004]

32. Its cheaper to buy in bulk

And if its a long drive, its just easier to buy a lot at once.

[hack89]

37. Practice?

I shoot competitively with my family - we can go through a thousand rounds in a weekend.

You also save a lot of money buying in bulk. I try to buy ammo once a year.

[scscholar]

40. This guy obviously practised which is why...

practice in order to become better at killing should be made illegal.

[hack89]

42. He was a security guard

wouldn't you expect licensed, trained and bonded security guards to be proficient with their guns?

Since I don't practice to kill I guess I am ok.

[Duckhunter935]

56. I thought people wanted firearms owners

To be safe and proficient with their weapons. You have to practice. Law enforcement needs more practice, they get very little.

[Duckhunter935]

54. Bulk purchasing

I can go through several hundred in a range day.

[onehandle]

39. Hunting people is the ultimate sport.

Gun nuts' biggest fantasy.

See: George Zimmerman

[ileus]

43. What if you want to pay cash?

If you use your new AR for target practice, family fun at the range or 3 gun competitions is it still considered a weapon?

If you're like most AR owners you'll find out 1000 rounds goes down the pipe pretty quick.

[NickB79]

44. Having purchased an AR-15 in Minnesota, I'd point out that you missed a step

You cannot purchase a handgun OR a rifle with a pistol grip (like an AR-15) unless you have obtained a handgun permit from your local police department. They conduct a background check on you, which typically takes 1-2 weeks, then send you your permit in the mail.

[Duckhunter935]

57. Interesting how he misses those important steps

[Lance Bass esquire]

47. In California was a 2 week wait for a 22 squirrel gun.

Bought it at Kmart ..filled out paperwork took 2 weeks to clear. Was in 97 or 98..maybe digital data has sped it up nowdays.