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ACLU lawyer has it right.... The right (and Donald Trump) are to blame. Not Islam. (Original Post) philosslayer Jun 2016 OP
He really does not say that at all. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #1
The more religious one is the more likely they are to at minimum denounce, at max hate LGBT snooper2 Jun 2016 #7
The murderer's father said it's wrong for people to murder homosexuals. trotsky Jun 2016 #2
It's not either or. It's complex cali Jun 2016 #3
... sibelian Jun 2016 #4
Let's play a game. linuxman Jun 2016 #5
Who are you more afraid of? philosslayer Jun 2016 #8
I work in kabul. linuxman Jun 2016 #9
"President Trump" will make things 10 times worse for you in Kabul philosslayer Jun 2016 #11
I really doubt who the president is will gave any affect here. linuxman Jun 2016 #12
The OP just doesn't get it. cwydro Jun 2016 #13
You are embarrassing yourself. DesMoinesDem Jun 2016 #6
Again. Bonx Jun 2016 #10
At best, that's delusional. At worst, outright distortion of the truth. Oneironaut Jun 2016 #14
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
1. He really does not say that at all.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:59 AM
Jun 2016

And here's news. There are Muslims in the LGBT community. It's not the good people that are the problem. It's the despicable practice of hiding the monsters behind those good people that is the problem, Chase and the LGBT community are not doing that. You are.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
7. The more religious one is the more likely they are to at minimum denounce, at max hate LGBT
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 01:37 PM
Jun 2016

Look at fundies from all religions, look at gay men in the black community and how they are shunned by their families and churches. Look at the Xtian fundies all out war on LGBT, and Muslims, shit...

There are even websites dedicated to finding a LGBT friendly or affirming church...

http://www.gaychurch.org/find_a_church/


I tried to find a LGBT friendly mosque and there may a couple, maybe-

Only found this one article so far-
Progressive Muslims Launch Gay-Friendly, Women-Led Mosques In Attempt To Reform American Islam

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/29/progressive-muslims-launch-gay-friendly-women-led-mosques_n_1368460.html

And as I type and search- found one-

Dayaiee Abdullah, D.C. Imam, Provides Counseling, Weddings And Prayer Space For Gay Muslims

(RNS) Imam Dayaiee Abdullah never knows how many people are going to show up for Friday prayers.

Some weeks, nearly a dozen men and women gather at a Quaker hall in northwest Washington, D.C., where they kneel on prayer rugs laid out to transform the room into a Muslim place of worship.

Other weeks, Abdullah, a convert to Islam, sits alone.

He may be the only openly gay imam in the world, and he formed Light of Reform mosque more than two years ago so people like himself could worship without fear.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/21/imam-dayaiee-abdullah-gay-mosque_n_3474571.html

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
2. The murderer's father said it's wrong for people to murder homosexuals.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:02 PM
Jun 2016

He said that instead we need to let god punish them himself.

But keep trying to believe that religion isn't a factor in homophobia.

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
5. Let's play a game.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 01:24 PM
Jun 2016

You link everything negative Trump said about gay peopke, and I'll respond with something far worse and violent that a Muslim leader, organization, or religious text has said about them. First one to run out of quotes lises. You go first.

At the end, well weigh the evidence and figure out what was likely the biggest motivator.

 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
8. Who are you more afraid of?
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 01:38 PM
Jun 2016

"President Trump", or "Islamic Terrorists"? I know my answer. Isn't even close.

 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
11. "President Trump" will make things 10 times worse for you in Kabul
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 01:50 PM
Jun 2016

So apparently we have the same answer.

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
12. I really doubt who the president is will gave any affect here.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 01:52 PM
Jun 2016

It doesn't really factor into the Afghan dynamic at this point.

Oneironaut

(6,309 posts)
14. At best, that's delusional. At worst, outright distortion of the truth.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 01:57 PM
Jun 2016

It's time to stop tip-toeing around the issue of radical Islam. It's embarrassing at this point.

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