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Gomez163

(2,039 posts)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 04:44 PM Jun 2016

Lets say you're keeping a gun at home for "protection." Then you have a break-in.

How do you get to it in time before the bad guy gets you??

Do you have it loaded on the dresser? What if you kid finds it?

Is it in a safe? How do you get to it before the bad guy gets you?

Must you always be on guard, sleeping in a chair with the gun at the ready?

And why are bad guys that interested in killing you?

How does this work with an AR-15? Do you have that leaning against your bedstand?

I want to know?

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Lets say you're keeping a gun at home for "protection." Then you have a break-in. (Original Post) Gomez163 Jun 2016 OP
What if you don't have one for "protection". Then you have a break in. Glassunion Jun 2016 #1
Don't they usually just want your TV? Gomez163 Jun 2016 #2
Then, in your rhetorical OP, why is the bad guy in your bedroom? Glassunion Jun 2016 #3
Im just working out the worst case scenario. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #5
What's the worst case scenario? Glassunion Jun 2016 #7
Nabbing the TV. But who actually has a loaded gun at the ready? Gomez163 Jun 2016 #9
At the ready and quickly accesible are two different things. Glassunion Jun 2016 #22
Do you practice? Drill? Gomez163 Jun 2016 #24
I don't do anything. This entire conversation is rhetorical. Glassunion Jun 2016 #29
I think if a had a gun, I would want to have the drill down. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #30
So be my gest. Glassunion Jun 2016 #37
If I feel the need to get protection, I'm getting a dog. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #39
Sweet... They tend to be much smarter than a gun. Glassunion Jun 2016 #42
That is smart thinking. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #40
My dad always kept one in his night stand GummyBearz Jun 2016 #32
Ever been in a really serious fistfight or adrenaline NoMoreRepugs Jun 2016 #31
Not 100% but I think I've seen safes with no combination. Just finger prints. Glassunion Jun 2016 #34
I used to wrestle when I was younger. Long ago. I remember the adrenaline. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #35
When you're in a house-a-fire emergency... Jerry442 Jun 2016 #38
I didnt say he was in my bedroom. I said there was a break in. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #6
Thieves who want your TV don't break in when you're home ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #13
Of course. If you don't have a gun, your only other option is to cower. uppityperson Jun 2016 #10
I can do cower. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #12
Or hide. Either works for me. They can have the tv. Eom Blanks Jun 2016 #45
Best video on the subject Dawgs Jun 2016 #14
heh Gomez163 Jun 2016 #17
I would tell you... NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #4
Do you have a quick response plan worked out? Gomez163 Jun 2016 #11
No matter the answers, you are many times more likely to use your gun on a family member at home... onehandle Jun 2016 #8
Or yourself! n/t TexasBushwhacker Jun 2016 #15
That would be a gross misstatement of that flawed study. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #41
And if you had MY family, you'd understand WHY! John Poet Jun 2016 #47
Dunno TeddyR Jun 2016 #16
"Why are bad guys that interested in killing you?" jmg257 Jun 2016 #18
I think you hit on something. Get a dog. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #19
Easy enough to answer Lurker Deluxe Jun 2016 #20
I live with a dragon. He eats the bad guys. hunter Jun 2016 #21
My attack kitty and I faced him in the living room with a baseball bat Fresh_Start Jun 2016 #23
I'm thinking of a Guns for Goggies Trade Program. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #26
I'm thinking of telling children the truth about guns Fresh_Start Jun 2016 #27
I would agree with you in most instances. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #28
What terrible questions to ask! guillaumeb Jun 2016 #25
Why exactly do you want to know what guns people own and where they are stored? REP Jun 2016 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author MFM008 Jun 2016 #36
Answers to your questions. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #43
Sorry about the one snotty question Gomez163 Jun 2016 #44
Most people end up shooting themselves or one of their family members Dem2 Jun 2016 #46

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
22. At the ready and quickly accesible are two different things.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 05:08 PM
Jun 2016

But you could conceivably have one loaded, and ready inside of a nightstand safe.

This keeps it out of the hands of kids, yet is still accessible to the owner.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
29. I don't do anything. This entire conversation is rhetorical.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 05:15 PM
Jun 2016

So I offered rhetoric.

But would one need to practice or drill taking something out of a box?

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
32. My dad always kept one in his night stand
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 05:18 PM
Jun 2016

We practiced with it around once a month, shooting targets outside of city limits. We disassembled it and cleaned it, reassembled it and put it back. He was a battle tested veteran from Vietnam, his respect for guns and what they can do, and how to safely handle them was pretty high. I'm glad he taught me those things. My gun is locked up in a closet in my parents house, my wife doesn't want it in our house. And I'm fine with that given we live in a freakin fortress of a gated building complex with guards 24/7. If we lived in a single family house, that gun would be in my night stand for sure.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,257 posts)
31. Ever been in a really serious fistfight or adrenaline
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 05:16 PM
Jun 2016

Inducing situation??? Cops miss 90%+ when they fire (I believe I read).. aND they hAve some training..... but the average schmuck is going to Remerber his combination and turn into Jason Bourne? Give me a break.....

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
34. Not 100% but I think I've seen safes with no combination. Just finger prints.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 05:19 PM
Jun 2016

I can unlock my phone at 3am, in the dark by using my thumb, I'm sure someone else could do the same with a box in their dresser.

Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
38. When you're in a house-a-fire emergency...
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 05:22 PM
Jun 2016

...you can, no shit, want to call 911 and for a moment, not remember the number.

Been there.

 

Gomez163

(2,039 posts)
6. I didnt say he was in my bedroom. I said there was a break in.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 04:50 PM
Jun 2016

What good is a gun going to be for me in that scenario? I'm not really quick draw McGraw.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
8. No matter the answers, you are many times more likely to use your gun on a family member at home...
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 04:51 PM
Jun 2016

...than in absolutely any other situation.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
18. "Why are bad guys that interested in killing you?"
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 05:01 PM
Jun 2016

Not sure - you might need to ask them, but why would they break into my house even though they knew someone was there?

What are they prepared to do, what with coming into an occupied house in the 1st place?

Is the hopes of a free TV worth the possibility of getting shot?

Is the hopes of a free TV worth them killing you instead?

Is getting away with robbery by killing you worth it to them?

Did they come in for the free TV, or something else?

Is their breaking in on the ground floor going to give you time to arm up on the 2nd floor?

Did your dog bark?

Do you have kids so that you need to be concerned about them playing with unsecure guns?

Is your safe located, and of such a style, that it is quick and easily accessible?

etc. etc.



Good questions, hopefully people give them lots of thought.









Lurker Deluxe

(1,031 posts)
20. Easy enough to answer
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 05:03 PM
Jun 2016

First things first.

My home is extremely secure, to get into my home you will have to defeat:

Gated community
Two possible secure entry points - front/back door - all windows are barred
Dog - not mean or anything - but you are not going to sneak up on her
Alarm system - hardwired and monitored

Yes, my pistol is loaded and easily accessible in the master bedroom, if you know where it is. The other guns are in a fire safe.

I have no children and generally visitors do not go into the master bedroom.

To get to the weapon in time requires one thing. Time. In reality it takes time to defeat the measures in place and during that time I would; call 911, retreat to the master bedroom, upstairs, and lock the door. I would then be armed. I would do everything in my power to not shoot someone including verbally warning them that I am armed. However, if they proceed and break into the master bedroom I would shoot and kill them.

I have never been in this situation and hope never to be, I do personally know people who have been in a home invasion situation and it is one thing that have a reasonable fear of. So I am prepared for that.

I do not own an AR platform rifle, kind of smallish caliber for anything I would use it for.

I hope that helps you understand.

hunter

(38,264 posts)
21. I live with a dragon. He eats the bad guys.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 05:04 PM
Jun 2016

Sometimes I'll hear a quickly extinguished shriek of terror, but usually I don't even wake up.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
23. My attack kitty and I faced him in the living room with a baseball bat
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 05:09 PM
Jun 2016

while my mom let the police in.
In the middle of the night..looking for things to steal for money for drugs

and we all survived

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
27. I'm thinking of telling children the truth about guns
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 05:13 PM
Jun 2016

the most dangerous thing in their lives are
1) daddy with drugs and guns
2) daddy with alcohol and guns
3) daddy and guns


guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
25. What terrible questions to ask!
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 05:10 PM
Jun 2016

In gun enthusiast world, there is always a good person with a gun to stop the evil person.

In gun enthusiast world, the good person never misses.

In gun enthusiast world, children never find guns.

In gun enthusiast world, the gun magically falls into the good person's hand.

In gun enthusiast world, the 30,000 firearms deaths are excused as the price of freedom.

In gun enthusiast world, "Red Dawn" is history, not a right wing gun owners fantasy.

REP

(21,691 posts)
33. Why exactly do you want to know what guns people own and where they are stored?
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 05:19 PM
Jun 2016

You want photos of my jewelry, too?

Response to Gomez163 (Original post)

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
43. Answers to your questions.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 05:36 PM
Jun 2016

> How do you get to it in time before the bad guy gets you??
If I am awake, yes. If I am asleep, maybe.


> Do you have it loaded on the dresser? What if you kid finds it?
No. There is no excuse for an unsecured firearm. Plus, I have no kids.


> Is it in a safe? How do you get to it before the bad guy gets you?
All the guns except the one doing defense duty are in a safe.
The defense handgun is in the holster and out of sight for the night.


> Must you always be on guard, sleeping in a chair with the gun at the ready?
That would depend on your goals. My goal is 8 hours of sleep, so no not in the chair.


> And why are bad guys that interested in killing you?
You said this was a break in. Why change the story now?
If someone breaks into your house while it is known to be occupied, they intruders obviously intend to do you harm.


> How does this work with an AR-15? Do you have that leaning against your bedstand?
If the AR-15 was doing dense duty, it would be standing in the closet.
But I am too lazy to have a long gun doing my home defense work. All the long guns are in the safe.

Dem2

(8,166 posts)
46. Most people end up shooting themselves or one of their family members
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 06:01 PM
Jun 2016

Guns are almost never used for self-defense, which should be a good thing, until you look at our suicide and domestic violence and kids shooting people stats.

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