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BootinUp

(47,073 posts)
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 12:10 AM Jun 2016

Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says

A former classmate of Omar Mateen’s 2006 police academy class said he believed Mateen was gay, saying Mateen once asked him out.

The classmate said that he, Mateen and other classmates would hang out, sometimes going to gay nightclubs, after classes at the Indian River Community College police academy. He said Mateen asked him out romantically.

“We went to a few gay bars with him, and I was not out at the time, so I declined his offer,” the former classmate said. He asked that his name not be used.

He believed Mateen was gay, but not open about it. Mateen was awkward, and for a while the classmate and the rest in the group of friends felt sorry for him.

“He just wanted to fit in and no one liked him,” he said. “He was always socially awkward.”

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/orlando-shooter-omar-mateen-was-gay-former-classma/nrfwW/?ecmp=pbp_social_twitter_2015_sfp

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Chris Hayes on MSNBC also interviewed someone about 30 minutes ago about this same story.

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Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says (Original Post) BootinUp Jun 2016 OP
Sad, sad, sad if true. N/t roamer65 Jun 2016 #1
That was the first thing hubby said after it happened mainer Jun 2016 #2
I said the same thing here...and got a hide for saying it! nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #13
Well, there goes 90% of the attention on this case. David__77 Jun 2016 #3
Attention isn't going away. Too many hot button issues for it to disappear. writes3000 Jun 2016 #4
I don't think it should. It was a major terrorist attack. David__77 Jun 2016 #5
Yep. Completely agree. writes3000 Jun 2016 #6
True, but it doesn't stop people from claiming otherwise. Behind the Aegis Jun 2016 #12
Yup! Behind the Aegis Jun 2016 #7
Disgusting King_David Jun 2016 #9
Well, there is one particular religion that must never be criticized here, QC Jun 2016 #22
He must have also felt intense shame because of Ilsa Jun 2016 #8
He's "socially" awkward in more ways than one rocktivity Jun 2016 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author rocktivity Jun 2016 #11
I'm sure that many individuals suffer from these sorts of conflicts..... clarice Jun 2016 #21
He says Mateen used Adam4Adam to send shots of his penis to men, but never showed his face.. LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #23
Kick n/t rocktivity Jun 2016 #14
Anything to deflect the real issue. Shameful.nt clarice Jun 2016 #15
??? BootinUp Jun 2016 #16
I didn't mean that YOU were trying to deflect the issue... clarice Jun 2016 #19
Exactly right! There are reasons. Behind the Aegis Jun 2016 #24
It's become glaringly obvious leftynyc Jun 2016 #17
Apparently he was a troubled child at a very young age. Starting to believe BootinUp Jun 2016 #18
I was home sick yesterday leftynyc Jun 2016 #20

David__77

(23,320 posts)
5. I don't think it should. It was a major terrorist attack.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 02:28 AM
Jun 2016

And I imagine that plenty of the Islamic State people engage in homosexual sex, actually.

Behind the Aegis

(53,919 posts)
12. True, but it doesn't stop people from claiming otherwise.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 02:31 AM
Jun 2016

See, that concept means they can't be real terrorists. Of course, we have heterosexual people high-fiving themselves with some of the most bigoted shit proving they are right about the shooter being a self-loathing GAY! "LOOK! He took a selfie and has "duck lips"! HOMO! I am so awesome because I knew it!"

Behind the Aegis

(53,919 posts)
7. Yup!
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 03:09 AM
Jun 2016

Of course, I still can't get over the fact someone wrote about his "possible" homophobia, "Maybe he was molested at a young age, or had a friend raped by a gay man, we can't just assume it is religion." Fun!

QC

(26,371 posts)
22. Well, there is one particular religion that must never be criticized here,
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:51 PM
Jun 2016

so of course it is necessary to find some other explanation.

(If the guy were, say, a Southern Baptist or an Orthodox Jew, on the other hand, there would be no need to tie ourselves in knots over the matter.)

Funny how that works.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
8. He must have also felt intense shame because of
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 04:30 AM
Jun 2016

His religion and his family's culture in their home. NBC said his father, for awhile, had been a promoter of the Taliban, but later disavowed them.

rocktivity

(44,572 posts)
10. He's "socially" awkward in more ways than one
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 11:47 PM
Jun 2016

Last edited Sun Jun 19, 2016, 02:31 PM - Edit history (2)

AmericanNewsX: Multiple reports tell us that the shooter has cited various terrorist groups that are actually bitter rivals of each other as his "connection." When investigated, more than once, it was found that he had no such ties and was more than likely trash talking when he felt threatened...(T)his guy really doesn’t seem to have any real connections to any real terrorists at all...

On the other hand, a consistent pattern of him being a regular at the Pulse (club) for about three years has emerged. Witnesses are coming forward who had interactions with him and are swearing to the terrorist being a gay man. He also had a profile on a gay dating site...

So far, the patterns of a secret life-leading, self-loathing gay Muslim are much more consistent than anything directed by any of the rival terrorist groups that the terrorist claimed to be with at various times and seeking any kind of religious martyrdom. If this turns out to be factual, many of those demanding we ban and scrutinize Muslims more in America will have egg on their face, yet again.

Telegraph UK: ...Sitora Yusufiy...(a) former wife of Mateen...has said he was mentally unstable and beat her...(S)he fled their home after four months of marriage...

Orlando residents...say that Mateen was a regular at the club and a homosexual seeking to pick up men. Jim Van Horn, said he once struck up a conversation with Mateen, but his friends pulled him away – saying there was “something strange” about him...Another couple, who work together as drag-dancing performers, said they had seen Mateen as many as a dozen times at Pulse, and that he went to the club to escape his home life.

Chris Callen, who goes by the stage name of Kristina McLaughlin, said Mateen began showing up about three years ago..."It could be he just went crazy. Maybe he got radicalised and hated who he was.”

TMZ: There are mounting claims that Omar Mateen was gay and looking to hook up on apps and in clubs -- but it appears he was also actively hitting on women -- a strong sign of a possible struggle with his sexuality.

Cord Cedeno says he connected with Mateen a couple years ago on Grindr...Mateen -- whose profile was a pic of him in a tie -- would only say "Hi" over and over. He says he eventually blocked Mateen, but knows 4 friends who say the Orlando murderer remained active on other apps. He says Mateen used Adam4Adam to send shots of his penis to men, but never showed his face...(Cedeno) has no knowledge (of) Mateen...hooking up with a man.

On the other hand, a female user on Plenty Of Fish says Mateen reached out to her 18 months ago. She says he was "nice, normal...mentioned he had a child, but said he was single and looking for a good woman to marry." She told us Mateen...rant(ed) about Islam and the Quran, saying people misunderstood his religion. She says he wanted to meet face-to-face, but she too blocked him because he seemed "emotionally unstable."

Oh, well, this is QUITE inconvenient -- it blows away (if you'll pardon the expression) the anti-American jihadist martyr narrative, and just as the presidential election season was getting under way. All the anger, fear and hate of Muslims that the mainstream media, the Rethugs and the gun industry were planning to cash in on has to be replaced by patriotism and sympathy of the gay and pro-gay victims and another round of gun control talk? What a buzzkill! However, one man's buzzkill is another man's buzz -- we'll jut have to take comfort in enjoying things like this:






rocktivity

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clarice

(5,504 posts)
21. I'm sure that many individuals suffer from these sorts of conflicts.....
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:50 PM
Jun 2016

I am also very sure that most of them don't grab an AR-47 and.......well you get the picture.

LoverOfLiberty

(1,438 posts)
23. He says Mateen used Adam4Adam to send shots of his penis to men, but never showed his face..
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 01:18 PM
Jun 2016

How would he know it was him?

 

clarice

(5,504 posts)
19. I didn't mean that YOU were trying to deflect the issue...
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:48 PM
Jun 2016

I meant that the whole canard of Gay/not Gay/ might be Gay..is being used to
diffuse the terrorist extremism rational.

BootinUp

(47,073 posts)
18. Apparently he was a troubled child at a very young age. Starting to believe
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:46 PM
Jun 2016

he was raised in a very hateful environment. Children aren't born with hate.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
20. I was home sick yesterday
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:48 PM
Jun 2016

and had CNN on as background noise the entire day - something about saying he wanted to kill his classmates in grammar school - his violence streak went back a very long way.

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