Doesn't this shooter sound like all the others?

[leftyladyfrommo]

1. Young male

2. Extremely disturbed

3. Identifies with a hate group - hate blacks, hate Jews, hate women, hate Muslims, hate somebody

4. Got ahold of dangerous weapons.

5. Plans vicious attack on a group of unarmed people.

[malaise]

1. Of course but that does not suit the meme

because post cold war, America needs a new enemy for the war machine and the big banks to loot.

Angry lost young men with more baggage than a Fed Ex warehouse continue to act out their fantasies because they have easy access to assault rifles.

[Nye Bevan]

2. Your list would also descibe (for example) the Boston Marathon attack.

Most Islamic terrorists are indeed young males. And ISIS is the ultimate "hate group".

[appalachiablue]

8. The characteristics also fit racist, hate filled, white supremacist US terrorist Dylan Roof.

[7962]

12. Or the Ft Hood shooter. Or the Chattanooga shooter. Or John Muhammed

Or....the list goes on. But some want to micromanage the list to prove a point

[LittleGirl]

3. You forgot

that he was a gay man conflicted with his life. He frequented this club and was on gay dating web sites.

We don't have a muslim terrorist problem, we have a male anger problem.

[uponit7771]

15. ... and hit on men

[HereSince1628]

23. Think about the range of human emotion and behavior

Anger is well within that range, it's a feature that's moved along with the human path through history. For many reasons anger, and episodic poor anger management, is probably not going to go away.

What hasn't been and, thankfully, isn't yet a feature of humanness is universal access to high capacity rapid loading semi-automatic weapons.

2nd Amendment assumes we are to have a well regulated militia. A well regulated militia has rules and leaders.

It's clear that our militia is causing problems because some of its members are disorderly and almost all of it's weapons are dangerous.

I think it's high the nation's leaders acknowledge that the current lack of regulation of the militia presents an unacceptable risk to civil safety. Which means it's also high time for the commander-in-chief to step up and impose some regulation on that militia.

[LittleGirl]

25. I agree

but I certainly don't want Trump to make that decision and the GOP will NOT let Obama do anything. sigh.

[jberryhill]

4. Yeah, the generalized pattern is more consistent...

...than the excuse used.

[d_r]

5. No

He had a wife and child. They usually can't get a girlfriend

[Bluenorthwest]

14. He had a wife and an ex-wife.

And a child.

[Siwsan]

20. He and his current wife were living apart

It appears he can get a wife/girlfriend, but just can't hold on to them.

[spooky3]

6. Reports also say he was bullied in school.

[Fumesucker]

7. It's starting to look like this is someone who has been told he is evil for his whole life

And finally couldn't handle the divide between what he was and what he had been taught by people he trusted most, his parents.

I got exposed to a good bit of fundamentalism growing up but my parents were not fundies, something I come to be more and more thankful for the older I get.

[stillwaiting]

19. You were very lucky. Mine are Southern Baptist fundamentalists and it DOES leave a mark.

A very heavy mark for many brought up in that environment. I was lucky to get through a certain period in my life, and I had to have a complete nervous breakdown and lose everything before I could come to grips with being gay. I became non-functioning for awhile.

It is definitely possible to overcome, but I sometimes feel that pain that I went through will always be with me to some extent. I wish I could leave those feelings completely behind for good. To be clear, the pain I reference is referring to painful feelings I sometimes experience whenever I reflect on that period of my life. I sometimes feel sad that I had to go through so much, but whenever I feel this way I am able to shake it off by focusing on the present. Thinking back to my later childhood, adolescence, and early adulthood will probably always be at least somewhat painful for me. I am committed to doing all I can to try and prevent as many people as I can from experiencing what I went through.

On a positive note my first boyfriend (that helped me deal with SO much) is my current life partner. I have no idea how that happened with all of the issues I had early on in our relationship, but I am so lucky to have him in my life.

The LGBT community has come so far, but we have a lot more progress to make. There are still many places in this country where someone who is gay might still be surrounded only by people that condemn being gay like I experienced, and that will cause incredible damage. Still.

[FailureToCommunicate]

9. There are people like that all over the world. Only #4 allows the awful carnage on innocents here...

USA! USA! USA!

[uponit7771]

17. +1, can't really control the other stuff but we can control their access to devices that

... are designed to kill humans effciently

[Sienna86]

10. A brain disorder is a commonality. I prefer that factor to disturbed.

It's a physical, diagnosable illness. I believe his ex-wife said he was diagnosed with bipolar disorder.

[LittleGirl]

18. actually, she used the term

but I don't think she said he was diagnosed with it.

[appalachiablue]

22. His ex-wife didn't say he was diagnosed bipolar in the interview she gave. Since

they were together such a short time at a young age, for four months eight years ago I wonder if they received any professional counseling while married, if he'd been diagnosed earlier and told her, or she thinks he had the illness based on something else.

[LittleGirl]

24. we'll probably never know...eom

[appalachiablue]

29. That's true, not now. Bispolar and even the term sociopath are used frequently

of late with some justification. But serious illnesses require medical determination if possible I believe especially if they're of an emotional nature in order to prevent additional negative misconceptions and stigmatization.

[Vinca]

11. It seems the majority of the shooters fit almost all of that description.

#3 is the one that doesn't necessarily fit for some like the Aurora shooter or Columbine or even Sandy Hook.

[HockeyMom]

21. Weren't the Columbine killers

and Lanza outcasts and bullied in school? They hated Teachers and Students.

[MellowDem]

13. Why was he extremely disturbed?

Being homosexual and raised with a bigoted religion that spews hate towards you would "disturb" plenty of people, to put it lightly.

The ideologies that "disturb" these shooters often shares a lot of the blame.

[pipoman]

16. I don't think most "identify with a hate group", it is usually more personal than that...

That said, the Hesston Kansas shooter a few months ago got no press and almost no discussion here on DU because he didn't fit the narrative...Narrative is the most important part to those who use tragedy to advance their ideology....

[Boldine]

26. I believe he hated himself

and that self-hate extended to others just because.

I believe he was closeted homosexual who was conflicted and unable to live as he really wanted.

His last call with the police was to align himself with terror groups, yes, but it was also contradictory as to the groups (who are against each other) he named. To the last I believe he was ashamed of being homosexual and being thought of as such. And because of that we lost 50 beautiful souls.

[Bad Dog]

27. He's a right wing terrorist.

Islamist terrorists are just as right wing as the TP brand.

[catbyte]

28. Palm Beach Post is reporting he was closeted gay, asked classmate out in hs. Shooting making more

sense. ISIS allegiance sounds like bullshit excuse to mask his true motive--hypermasculine guy from a culture/religion that hates gays, unable to accept himself goes postal. Sounds more plausible than a non-religious guy suddenly being radicalized. He was a walking time bomb waiting to go off.

[mopinko]

30. 6. he beat his wife.

[baldguy]

31. Trump supporter?