Orlando Shooter Gay??

[busterbrown]

Changes everything if so... Agree?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/witnesses-orlando-shooter-regular-gay-clubs/story?id=39839464

[Silver_Witch]

1. Your point?

Hate is hate. This was a hate crime pure and simple what does this change. He was a Democrat too!!! So are all democrats murdering asshats? No? Ahh I were just more hate!

[busterbrown]

17. Point.. Stop trying to blame Obama

for this tragedy. This is a domestic Terrorist attack.. Nothing to do with Obama’s foreign policy.

This is what the right has been pushing for the last 3 days.

[Silver_Witch]

18. I am not blaming Obama! Are you insane?

It was a religious zealot brought up on hate that is too blame!

[busterbrown]

20. Come on....Point?

Was not about you, it was about Trump and his minions blaming our President... You asked me what was my point... The above was my point...

[Iggo]

2. Not everything.

[maryellen99]

4. It's also coming out that he want to shoot up his 5th grade class nt

[uponit7771]

3. Doesn't change the fact that this was a hate crime against gay people

[Iggo]

6. Yup.

Hate crime against gays. Not changed.

50 dead people still dead. Not changed.

One guy with two guns did it. Not changed.

Ability to stop fuckers like him from getting those guns. Not changed.

So, yeah. This really doesn't "change everything."

[2naSalit]

5. Heard several

accounts on BBC last night, including one where one of his classmates in police school said he asked him out for a romantic foray but declined.


Sure would 'splain a lot if so and disqualify his claims of association with terrorist organizations which he seems to be confused about.

[busterbrown]

8. Thank You..

Everyone.. This is what I’m thinking..

NRA, Right Wing Politicians, are tinkled fucking pink painting the shooter as an ISIS Terrorist (which he obviously is not, just using them as cover)... The Punk...

Call it what it fucking is.. a despicable human being filled with mental illness which lead him down his path of destruction.... So Republicans quit deflecting the issue of ISIS Involvement...Its bullshit!

[AngryAmish]

7. A lot of people want to blame gay people for this.

[Behind the Aegis]

13. Yup. There is also another agenda at play.

It is a time "honored" tradition.

[TipTok]

19. I've heard a lot of things...

That is not one of them...

[villager]

9. What changes? Such violence is about trying to "vanquish" or "eliminate" something in yourself

...at some level.

Hence the Fundamentalist obsessions with sex, the militarist obsessions with being "too soft," et al...

[uppityperson]

10. What changes? It was a hate crime against people for their sexual orientation.

It was done using a weapon capable of killing many people in a short period of time.

I'm not sure what it changes IF he were gay. Is it not homophobia, not a hate crime? (answer, it is). What do you think it changes, what "everything"?

[busterbrown]

14. Because the rightwing and NRA lifters

are speaking to the crime through A convenient Terrorist issue.. Meaning that ISIS and our govts.inability to protect our country is the real issue.. Didn’t you hear how Trump Responded? Its about Obama and his inability to protect the country... Is that what you think it is? .. The Fuck it is.. Its about domestic terrorism...Homophobic nuts getting easy access to death machines..

[uppityperson]

15. So instead of Middle Eastern terrorism, it's gays killing each other?

And yes, I have read that on facebook also along the appalling lines of "who cares, let them kill each other". People can be real assholes, spouting that bs.

It is a hate crime, homophobic nuts getting easy access to death machines.

[busterbrown]

16. Yep....they sure are.....

Congressmen “Sow what you Reap” bullshit.. Sickening...but them trying to blame Obama and with his ant-gun agenda? Thats the shit that scares dumies and there a lot out there... “I need my 25 guns to protect my family from Islamic Terrorists, Liberals like Obama trying to take my guns and while I’m at it, homos trying to get at my children,” It all comes together... These people are useless!!

[Bad Thoughts]

11. Gun violence--Jihadism--Hate Crime--Wounded Masculinity: changes nothing.eom.

[Mira]

12. It is being discussed here in this

sensitive and credible post.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027911554

I suspected repressed homosexuality yesterday as facts emerged. With the religious taboos on top of that the man was struggling with horrible internal dilemmas I think. He certainly should never have gotten the weapons, and should have had easy access to mental health professionals.