Wed Jun 15, 2016, 04:50 PM

Women may soon be required to register for Selective Service. How do you feel?

The Senate just passed a $602 billion defense spending bill. In it, among other things, is a requirement for women to register for Selective Service, just like men. The Senate bill still has to be reconciled with the House version, though. And if Obama vetoes it, the Senate may very well override the veto since it already had/has 85 votes in the Senate.

What are your thoughts on it?

My thoughts are that this is going to be a highly unpopular move, but it's the fair thing to do. I do not agree with the societal attitude that if a man dies in combat, it is less tragic than if a woman dies in combat - which seems to be part of the attitude driving the notion that only men should be drafted and not women (society really does not consider all deaths to be equal). I think this is one of those "equality goes both ways" situations. At any rate, it's not like a military draft is going to be reinstated any time soon, so registering for Selective Service is simply going to entail filling out some unpopular paperwork.

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Women may soon be required to register for Selective Service. How do you feel? (Original post)	PlanetaryOrbit	Jun 2016	OP
Pass an ERA, and I'm 100% for it	obamanut2012	Jun 2016	#1
^^^THIS^^^	csziggy	Jun 2016	#3
Pass this and the ERA will be that much more doable.	Hortensis	Jun 2016	#10
Nope, give us the rights first, or they will never come	obamanut2012	Jun 2016	#26
"Give?" "Come?" Since "they" gave us the vote,	Hortensis	Jun 2016	#27
wut	obamanut2012	Jun 2016	#62
Same.	Starry Messenger	Jun 2016	#14
That and deal with the rape epidemic in the US military	gollygee	Jun 2016	#21
Yes, cosign	obamanut2012	Jun 2016	#25
Ding! We have a winner! nt	JanMichael	Jun 2016	#37
+1. nt	bemildred	Jun 2016	#48
Ayup.	Iggo	Jun 2016	#57
Really? You support the Republican's War on Women? (ntxt)	scscholar	Jun 2016	#58
lolz you guys!	obamanut2012	Jun 2016	#61
Agreed. If you get all the benefits of our society, you should have to pay for it like everyone.	Calista241	Jun 2016	#68
One of two things:	no_hypocrisy	Jun 2016	#2
This will NEVER be fair to women until all reported rapes are prosecuted by civilian law. A woman	ancianita	Jun 2016	#4
^ This ^	demmiblue	Jun 2016	#7
Good and important point!	apcalc	Jun 2016	#19
+1000	smirkymonkey	Jun 2016	#30
Rec. Well stated.	MerryBlooms	Jun 2016	#33
+5. Also equal pay for US women enforced across the board or else severely penalized.	appalachiablue	Jun 2016	#53
I say that when women make up at least half of the war deciding body of our government then women	rainy	Jun 2016	#5
does that apply to other groups as well?	JustinL	Jun 2016	#43
Like JustinL said.........	PlanetaryOrbit	Jun 2016	#50
I agree it's the fair thing to do, and also think it will make more people pay attention	mahina	Jun 2016	#6
Right. Personally, I think the draft should	Hortensis	Jun 2016	#12
You want 45 year old Americans to be pulled from their jobs and sent into military service?	Just reading posts	Jun 2016	#29
Really. It'd pretty much mean the end	Hortensis	Jun 2016	#34
Why not just draft 80 year old great grandmothers while you're at it?	Just reading posts	Jun 2016	#36
are you saying 80 year old great grandmothers couldn't contribute to a war effort?	snooper2	Jun 2016	#67
and what about those who are killed and maimed while we're waiting for the end of war?	JustinL	Jun 2016	#44
You seem to have less faith in the willingness	Hortensis	Jun 2016	#46
As recently as 2011, the army allowed anyone up to the age of 42 years old to enlist	LanternWaste	Jun 2016	#70
Oh, hell no.	-none	Jun 2016	#8
I'm against the Draft. Not a fan of involuntary servitude.	Just reading posts	Jun 2016	#9
You & me both !	Basic LA	Jun 2016	#22
It only makes sense	jberryhill	Jun 2016	#11
It's not fair till we pass the Equal Rights Amendment.	pnwmom	Jun 2016	#13
"Me And Julia Down By The Schoolyard"	KamaAina	Jun 2016	#15
Get rid of it	JennyMominFL	Jun 2016	#16
I'm not a fan of conscription. I'd have many concerns with women actually being drafted	HereSince1628	Jun 2016	#17
Pass the ERA	apcalc	Jun 2016	#18
Agree. nt	auntpurl	Jun 2016	#20
I see an increase in pregnancies if there's a draft. Cuz war shit sucks and only benefits	valerief	Jun 2016	#23
I think this Selective Service registration is bizarre.	hunter	Jun 2016	#24
So we are going to have a female commander-in-chief...	davidn3600	Jun 2016	#28
Yes, but we don't have equal rights yet.	smirkymonkey	Jun 2016	#31
What would passing ERA magically do?	davidn3600	Jun 2016	#39
The exemption for women has been for breeding more soldiers, not sentiment	REP	Jun 2016	#32
I think it's great. We'll have more discussions about our military use perhaps.	LeftRant	Jun 2016	#35
It wouldn't be fair???	catnhatnh	Jun 2016	#38
The penalty for men and women who don't register	PlanetaryOrbit	Jun 2016	#40
That is true, and you can't get a drivers license either.	uppityperson	Jun 2016	#41
Not just that: ineligibility for many federal and state government jobs.	JonLeibowitz	Jun 2016	#79
I feel that the Selective Service should be abolished n/t	JustinL	Jun 2016	#42
Fine	treestar	Jun 2016	#45
It means twice as much opposition to a draft	struggle4progress	Jun 2016	#47
I imagine a woman could get out of serving by getting pregnant	Zing Zing Zingbah	Jun 2016	#49
I'm fine with it. For the next war, I'd prefer we reinstate the draft with zero deferments.	tonyt53	Jun 2016	#51
There is no reason women should be denied the requirement to sign up for selective service.	Agnosticsherbet	Jun 2016	#52
All the responsibility	libodem	Jun 2016	#54
It seems overdue.	Jester Messiah	Jun 2016	#55
It means nothing, just like males registering for SS currently means nothing	notadmblnd	Jun 2016	#56
I'm totally favor of women being able to kill for Exxon Mobil!	Peace Patriot	Jun 2016	#59
I think it's right.	Warren DeMontague	Jun 2016	#60
When the House and Senate reconcile the different bill versions	PlanetaryOrbit	Jun 2016	#63
I think Selective Service is a con job and always has been	Downtown Hound	Jun 2016	#64
Fair? I suppose. Right? No way in hell.	LWolf	Jun 2016	#65
Fine by me (nt)	bigwillq	Jun 2016	#66
Are they still being raped in the service?	Stellar	Jun 2016	#69
Seems like both men and women were raped.	JonLeibowitz	Jun 2016	#80
I know, and I remember reading that nothing is being done about it. nt	Stellar	Jun 2016	#81
Would the women be maids and waitresses at	frogmarch	Jun 2016	#71
Way overdue.	RAFisher	Jun 2016	#72
I say men shouldn't have to register for Selective Service	lunatica	Jun 2016	#73
Eliminate Selective Service	bonemachine	Jun 2016	#74
Okay, let's take this one step further	OldHippieChick	Jun 2016	#75
ERA and yes.	peace13	Jun 2016	#76
I think women should be equal in all ways, including the annoying necessity of registering for the	Agnosticsherbet	Jun 2016	#77
I'm okay with it	shenmue	Jun 2016	#78
If men have to register, women have to register.	Vinca	Jun 2016	#82
I served	Skittles	Jun 2016	#83
Not a lot of support for equality here... except for the presidency, of course.	lumberjack_jeff	Jun 2016	#84

Response to PlanetaryOrbit (Original post)

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 04:52 PM

obamanut2012 (24,240 posts)

Women may soon be required to register for Selective Service. How do you feel?

1. Pass an ERA, and I'm 100% for it

3. ^^^THIS^^^

10. Pass this and the ERA will be that much more doable.

26. Nope, give us the rights first, or they will never come

27. "Give?" "Come?" Since "they" gave us the vote,

62. wut

14. Same.

21. That and deal with the rape epidemic in the US military

25. Yes, cosign

37. Ding! We have a winner! nt

48. +1. nt

57. Ayup.

58. Really? You support the Republican's War on Women? (ntxt)

61. lolz you guys!

68. Agreed. If you get all the benefits of our society, you should have to pay for it like everyone.

2. One of two things:

4. This will NEVER be fair to women until all reported rapes are prosecuted by civilian law. A woman

7. ^ This ^

19. Good and important point!

30. +1000

33. Rec. Well stated.

53. +5. Also equal pay for US women enforced across the board or else severely penalized.

5. I say that when women make up at least half of the war deciding body of our government then women

43. does that apply to other groups as well?

50. Like JustinL said.........

6. I agree it's the fair thing to do, and also think it will make more people pay attention

12. Right. Personally, I think the draft should

29. You want 45 year old Americans to be pulled from their jobs and sent into military service?

34. Really. It'd pretty much mean the end

36. Why not just draft 80 year old great grandmothers while you're at it?

67. are you saying 80 year old great grandmothers couldn't contribute to a war effort?

44. and what about those who are killed and maimed while we're waiting for the end of war?

46. You seem to have less faith in the willingness

70. As recently as 2011, the army allowed anyone up to the age of 42 years old to enlist

8. Oh, hell no.

9. I'm against the Draft. Not a fan of involuntary servitude.

22. You & me both !

11. It only makes sense

13. It's not fair till we pass the Equal Rights Amendment.

15. "Me And Julia Down By The Schoolyard"

16. Get rid of it

17. I'm not a fan of conscription. I'd have many concerns with women actually being drafted

18. Pass the ERA

20. Agree. nt

23. I see an increase in pregnancies if there's a draft. Cuz war shit sucks and only benefits

24. I think this Selective Service registration is bizarre.

28. So we are going to have a female commander-in-chief...

31. Yes, but we don't have equal rights yet.

39. What would passing ERA magically do?

32. The exemption for women has been for breeding more soldiers, not sentiment

35. I think it's great. We'll have more discussions about our military use perhaps.

38. It wouldn't be fair???

40. The penalty for men and women who don't register

41. That is true, and you can't get a drivers license either.

79. Not just that: ineligibility for many federal and state government jobs.

42. I feel that the Selective Service should be abolished n/t

45. Fine

47. It means twice as much opposition to a draft

49. I imagine a woman could get out of serving by getting pregnant

51. I'm fine with it. For the next war, I'd prefer we reinstate the draft with zero deferments.

52. There is no reason women should be denied the requirement to sign up for selective service.

54. All the responsibility

55. It seems overdue.

56. It means nothing, just like males registering for SS currently means nothing

59. I'm totally favor of women being able to kill for Exxon Mobil!

60. I think it's right.

63. When the House and Senate reconcile the different bill versions

64. I think Selective Service is a con job and always has been

65. Fair? I suppose. Right? No way in hell.

66. Fine by me (nt)

69. Are they still being raped in the service?

80. Seems like both men and women were raped.

81. I know, and I remember reading that nothing is being done about it. nt

71. Would the women be maids and waitresses at

72. Way overdue.

73. I say men shouldn't have to register for Selective Service

74. Eliminate Selective Service

75. Okay, let's take this one step further

76. ERA and yes.