Rant: Common Sense Firearms Regulation

[John_Doe80004]

i am starting to see a little internet meme circulate social media as it relates to firearms regulation.

what it points out is firearm regulation won't prevent the next tragedy because the perpetrator will find some other means to cause mass casualties such as timothy McVeigh did in the Oklahoma bombing. i find this comparison half true as what it fails to mention is as a result of the world trade center bombing and Oklahoma bombings is that fertilizer and other ingredients for home made explosives are now regulated and monitored by the feds and if an individual were to purchase large amounts of fertilizer or other monitored substances they would get a friendly visit from the FBI and better have a damn good explanation for the large purchase.

i rate it half true. where there is a will there is a way but don't sit there and tell me that the mass casualty rate isn't going to go down as a result of common sense firearm regulation because other countries experiments show this to be wholly untrue!!!

if you want to make up for a lack of self esteem with military hardware then go join a well regulated militia such as your local national guard or federal armed forces. you will get to play (as well as proper discipline and training) with this military grade hardware all day long while defending your country!!!!

the second amendment as interpreted by the US supreme court. states you (as an individual) have the right to keep and bear arms (although i beg to differ based on the language of the 2nd amendment) it however does not specify what types of arms or ammo you are allowed to keep and bear. this leaves wide latitude by government to regulate how much ammo and what type of ammo you are allowed to keep and bear in addition to the type of firearms you are allowed to keep and bear. by all right the government can limit you to a musket and steel ball ammo and still meet the requirements of the second amendment. so when discussing common sense firearms regulation be lucky you are still going to be allowed more than a musket and steel ball for your firearm!!!

[Duckhunter935]

1. And that first amendment should be limited

To the printing press as crazy online speech incites most of these assholes.

[hunter]

3. That's a bullshit comparison. Do you think slavery should be brought back too?

The second amendment has always been a way of insuring there were plenty of assholes with guns around to keep the oppressed oppressed.

If a few assholes get too unregulated and massacre a bunch of Indians in the hills or gay people in a club, well, that's just a cost of doing business.

Look at U.S. history. Slaves revolting, workers striking, Indians occupying valuable land? Who do you call?

Yep, a bunch of fucking morons with guns.

[Duckhunter935]

4. I see all of these

Terroriss have also been radicalized by posts on the the internet. I we do as you suggest and limit the amendments to when they were written, it would help immensely. Why do you NEED the internet?

[hunter]

6. Piss on guns.

Gun love is disgusting.

Say hello to the terrorists living in your head, for me, okay?

Maybe you can think about the causes of terrorism, gang violence, domestic violence and how we prevent those.

Hint: The answer isn't guns. The answer is very rarely guns.

Piss on guns.

I can anger the gun fetishists, but bullets don't travel through the internet; only words, images, and audio. Free speech won't make me bleed, and I've never been so cowardly as to believe a gun could solve my disputes.

[Duckhunter935]

9. Wow aren't you civil

No, I do not have terrorists living in my head. You just do not like the facts that without the incitement by these internet postings, more than likely these murders would not have ever happened. Without guns, it would be harder. Bombs, cars and knives have been used and the common culprit is hate speech on the internet

[hunter]

12. The second amendment is bullshit. I told you why I think so.

Wrapping it up in a U.S. flag doesn't make it smell any better.

[sarisataka]

8. Slavery was eliminated

Not by courts nor the Civil War nor Lincoln's proclamation.

It was eliminated by the Thirteenth Amendment.

[hunter]

11. It will come. If the U.S.A. holds together.

It may not. In which case, I will walk away from this place, just as my ancestors left Europe when everything was turning to shit.

[DonP]

2. I'm gonna guess that the irony of issuing your rant on a computer and the web escapes you?

Next time you have a "big idea", even a stale old one that's already been trotted out ad infinitum, think it through and see how you'd feel applied to the other 9 amendments in the BoR.

Oh, and those muzzle loaders ... shoot lead balls, not steel. But that's probably just another NRA talking point.

[Duckhunter935]

5. It is amazing, is it not.

How do they not see how hypocritical they are.

[DonP]

7. And every time, they think it's a brilliant new idea no one ever thought of.

[sarisataka]

10. Apparently then the FBI

Can search your computer without a warrant since they are not mentioned in the Fourth.

As for what the founders could have imagined, I'm sure that they could far more easily comprehend modern weapons than computers.

[jmg257]

13. Yep - let's go with that. By all right the govt can do whatever it wants.

infringe - act so as to limit or undermine (something); encroach on.

shall not be infringed - shall not be limited, undermined, or encroached on

A well-regulated militia being necessary..., the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

By all right (OURS) the government can't do any more then tell us what arms to supply ourselves with for militia duty.
And those arms had better be related to the efficiency of the militias ('today', not 1789).


Of course the people may & have decided otherwise...and there is often compelling government interest for doing things that are unconstitutional.