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Gary Johnson Is Now Polling in Double Digits in 5 Red States (Original Post) Doctor Jack Jun 2016 OP
Wasn't he the white guy from Miami Vice back in the day NightWatcher Jun 2016 #1
Nice one. nt winstars Jun 2016 #3
If they had Weld at the top of the ticket, they would do much better oberliner Jun 2016 #2
I highly doubt it, Weld is considered the ultimate RINO Reter Jun 2016 #22
That's exactly why he would do so well oberliner Jun 2016 #25
Moderates and the far-right hate Trump too Reter Jun 2016 #36
Weld was boo'd vehemently the other week at the Libertarian convention when he was nominated. politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2016 #38
Libertarians don't like him because they see him as a Republican oberliner Jun 2016 #39
The Libertarian johnson is currently growing in red states. NuclearDem Jun 2016 #4
Notice how he is only doing well in mostly hardcore republican territory Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #5
! rurallib Jun 2016 #20
Consenting adults. rug Jun 2016 #41
He's sucking up Trump voters up here in AK bravenak Jun 2016 #6
That will be a hell of a thing if the Libertarians take a state Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #8
I'm pretty sure he won't actually win a state. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #12
It would KILL the replublicans if he stole this state bravenak Jun 2016 #19
#FeeltheJohnson Music Man Jun 2016 #7
I saw that slogan a few times Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #9
Hey .... #GOP #Trump ... #FeeltheJohnson JoePhilly Jun 2016 #29
That doesn't sound right meow2u3 Jun 2016 #35
Just imagine how amazing it would be if this was the final map Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #10
Nice map, and would put Republicans in a panic. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #13
Not likely but damn even one state turning libertarian would be a GOP disaster Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #15
In some of those states, Johnson could pull enough form the Republicans to turn them blue. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #16
Huuuuuge!!! JoePhilly Jun 2016 #30
Not polling high enough to win but if this continues, he could throw red state into the blue column. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #11
Likely a similar story to what we saw in 1992 Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #14
I was thinking the same thing about Utah n/t TexasBushwhacker Jun 2016 #23
NM is a blue state n/t PasadenaTrudy Jun 2016 #17
Ah yes, quite true Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #18
True PasadenaTrudy Jun 2016 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author MFM008 Jun 2016 #21
It would be something if no one got to 270 Reter Jun 2016 #24
I don't think they'd vote for Hillary. seabeckind Jun 2016 #27
Ok you caused me to think of the possibility of a President Trump and a VP Warren. PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #31
What make you think Trump? seabeckind Jun 2016 #33
That's why I think the Rethugs will boot out Trumpf and turn this into a 4 way race. roamer65 Jun 2016 #43
He'll sink like a stone after the conventions. Looneytarians always do. onehandle Jun 2016 #26
Trump is beloved by assholes Warpy Jun 2016 #28
Great news! lindysalsagal Jun 2016 #34
Most likely Montana lancer78 Jun 2016 #37
Could be close Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #40
I am definitely going to watch the CNN town hall on the 22nd. roamer65 Jun 2016 #42
New Mexico isn't exactly a Red State 0rganism Jun 2016 #44
johnson stealing dissatisfied republican voters from trump...and may give Hillary beachbum bob Jun 2016 #45
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
2. If they had Weld at the top of the ticket, they would do much better
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 06:00 PM
Jun 2016

He comes across much more "sensible" - I think Romney said he would vote for Weld.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
22. I highly doubt it, Weld is considered the ultimate RINO
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 06:52 PM
Jun 2016

He was a very liberal Republican, while Johnson at least always had a libertarian streak. The Libertarian Party is flipping that he's even on the ticket.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
25. That's exactly why he would do so well
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 07:07 PM
Jun 2016

It's the RINOs that are looking for an alternative to Trump.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
36. Moderates and the far-right hate Trump too
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:42 PM
Jun 2016

I think he'd have a much better chance with a guy like Rand Paul.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
38. Weld was boo'd vehemently the other week at the Libertarian convention when he was nominated.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:54 PM
Jun 2016

If the Libertarians who know him don't want him, why would we.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
39. Libertarians don't like him because they see him as a Republican
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 10:08 PM
Jun 2016

That's why people like Romney and other Republicans see him as being a palatable option.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
5. Notice how he is only doing well in mostly hardcore republican territory
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 06:04 PM
Jun 2016

He isn't sucking in votes from the democrats. These are all solid republican voters that are running to Johnson. Trump may want to look out, he might not have to just worry about making up the large deficit with Clinton, he may soon have the Libertarian Party nipping at his heels.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
6. He's sucking up Trump voters up here in AK
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 06:05 PM
Jun 2016

Hillary is taking some of the women. If Trump keeps talking Ak might go blue or Libertarian. I would enjoy that shit.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
8. That will be a hell of a thing if the Libertarians take a state
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 06:10 PM
Jun 2016

We haven't had a 3rd party take a state since 1968.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
19. It would KILL the replublicans if he stole this state
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 06:29 PM
Jun 2016

The Tea Party was big up here though. Even so, Murkowski manage to win a historic write in campaign when the republicans nominated some weirdo Tea Party dude. So, if Johnson managed a steal... I would laugh my ass off.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
16. In some of those states, Johnson could pull enough form the Republicans to turn them blue.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 06:18 PM
Jun 2016

I consider that a higher possibility.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
11. Not polling high enough to win but if this continues, he could throw red state into the blue column.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 06:12 PM
Jun 2016

If his numbers continue to climb, the Libertarian party could eclipse the Republican that crumbles under the weight of Trumpism.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
14. Likely a similar story to what we saw in 1992
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 06:16 PM
Jun 2016

There are at least a few states that clinton likely won because Perot ate up some of Bush's votes, like Kentucky and Montana. Would be interesting to see if any of those hardcore red states are in play. Keep an eye on Utah. That one could go blue, shockingly.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
18. Ah yes, quite true
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 06:22 PM
Jun 2016

But he was the governor there and last i saw the dems were polling above 50% in NM. He would probably be stealing the western/libertarian/mormon vote from trump in NM

Response to Doctor Jack (Original post)

seabeckind

(1,957 posts)
27. I don't think they'd vote for Hillary.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 07:15 PM
Jun 2016

The law says they pick out of the top 3.

Then the senate does the vp... who may or may not be on the same ticket.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
31. Ok you caused me to think of the possibility of a President Trump and a VP Warren.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 07:59 PM
Jun 2016

That'd be one wild 4 years.

seabeckind

(1,957 posts)
33. What make you think Trump?
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 08:47 PM
Jun 2016

How about Johnson and that Ryan guy from Youngstown (assuming Hillary picks strong third wayer)?

Or if the gop runs a parallel campaign with someone like Kasich and he gets a few states, not enough to make a splash, just a spoiler.

Even if he got only 30 EVs and the other got many more.... he could be selected.

The 1% would love to see Warren marginalized into the VP slot. And then replaced by a republican in the senate. Win, win. No more hearings.

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
43. That's why I think the Rethugs will boot out Trumpf and turn this into a 4 way race.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 11:46 PM
Jun 2016

They will hope their candidate is in the top 3 and select them in the H of Reps.

Warpy

(111,174 posts)
28. Trump is beloved by assholes
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 07:21 PM
Jun 2016

and not all Republicans are assholes, believe it or not. I think Johnson will do quite well with the non assholes.

It's not a bad thing, he didn't actually screw things up worse here in NM. He just didn't get necessary things, like ending the sales tax on food, done.

I honestly think the writing is on the wall for the gee oh pee, they've had to make too many bad deals with too many devils and now the devils are taking over. I fully expect a shift of the big money and the party kingmakers over to the Libertarians.

 

lancer78

(1,495 posts)
37. Most likely Montana
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:54 PM
Jun 2016

Obama only lost by 3 points there in 2008, and it has a Dem Senator and Governor.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
40. Could be close
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 10:29 PM
Jun 2016

In 2012, romney won montana by about 13 points. It was Romney 55%, Obama 42%, Johnson 3%. Assuming it is now that it is Trump 45%, Clinton 42%, and Johnson 12%, and it could be close. Besides the 2012 results and Johnson's current polling at 12%, there isn't much info but based on rough guess, we could be in that ballpark.

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
42. I am definitely going to watch the CNN town hall on the 22nd.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 11:41 PM
Jun 2016

I want to hear what Johnson and Weld have to say.

They do well and their poll numbers will go up.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
45. johnson stealing dissatisfied republican voters from trump...and may give Hillary
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 08:18 AM
Jun 2016

a 400 (or more) electoral vote win for her....and a democratic congress.....this is like 1972 Nixon-McGovern in a weird kind of reversal....in 1972 the democrats selected a nominee that was completely over matched by the republicans...and the most bitter landslide was painful to watch....when Reagan won in 1984, there was no surprise of the landslide

the conservatives have selected trump as their version of McGovern

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