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I reviewed the video this morning. He said that I'm using my disability as a crutch and manipulating people with it. Then he says, if you're disabled, how can you care for the dog?
Fast-forward several hours and he just left here. He walked in, went straight to the kitchen island, layed out a bunch of papers, then said, yeah, your carpet has stains so I'm giving you a 30 day notice to evict. He wanted me to sign papers agreeing to a date but I declined. I was told this morning that he may be in violation of the Fair Housing Act and given The contact info for someone to look into it. So.......I guess I'm moving. :/
As many here know, a few months ago I was raising money to help purchase and train a service dog for myself. The dog has been with us for about a month now and he is currently in his first training class.
Today, our landlord of 4 1/2 years shows up demanding entry into our house. He had seen the dog in the front yard when he was passing by and stopped. He said he knew nothing about it and never received my doctor's note. I checked my email after he left. It was sent 2 months ago to him. He also claimed that during furnace filter change last month, he noticed stains in the carpet. He wanted us to immediately pay for new carpet to be put in. BTW, The carpet was 5 years old when we moved in.
He finally said that this situation was not working for him and we needed to move. I asked if it was because of the dog and he said it wasn't. He got back in his truck to leave but then got back out to tell me that I'm using my disability as a crutch and needed to stop. He went on to talk about how his son is disabled and isn't like me. At this point, my wife came out and said he needed to leave. They started yelling and he said to just call the cops on him. When my wife called 911, he left.
Now, am I wrong to feel he was out of line and to talk about my disability the way he did? He also left notice that he is returning to photograph all of the rooms in 48 hours. Is he just looking for an excuse? Doesn't it seem odd that this happened only one month after the dog arrived? Btw, he comes once a month to inspect everything. I may be leaving out parts of this as it all happened so fast. In addition to a bad heart, I have really bad anxiety and PTSD. The one good thing about all of this is I had cameras installed outside because I don't feel safe. Everything that happened today was recorded.
niyad
(113,085 posts)is there a tenants' rights group where you are? would contact them as well.
oh, and I would take my own pics.
Quackers
(2,256 posts)I'm not sure if there's a tenants rights group or not here but I will check. Thanks!
Dustlawyer
(10,494 posts)Act and your state's landlord/tenant laws.
It is not my area, but the ADA covers the Service Dog part, he cannot discriminate due to your disability, which has a section on Service Animals. I would also speak to the landlord only in writing, except for minimum politeness on his inspections. I would re-read your lease agreement closely!
Many attorneys have free or relatively inexpensive consultations, but you need to check around. Go to your State Bar's website and look the attorney up, you can even call your state or county's lawyer referral service.
Best of luck!
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)Service animals are working animals, not pets. The work or task a dog has been trained to provide must be directly related to the person's disability. Dogs whose sole function is to provide comfort or emotional support do not qualify as service animals under the ADA.
Dustlawyer
(10,494 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)What I mean is the landlord should have pained the place (inside) before you moved in. Now at 4 1/2 years the landlord doesn't have to repainted until you move out and new tenants move in. I wish you had documentation proving the landlord didn't paint before you moved in. Carpets need replaced by landlord also but not sure of timeframe. You have a case especially if you have him discussing disability on tape.
Ms. Toad
(34,001 posts)OP, you need to check the law in your state before asserting your landlord violated specific habitability/maintenance details.
Quackers
(2,256 posts)I think the biggest thing that upset me is when he said what he did about my disability.
Ms. Toad
(34,001 posts)Quackers
(2,256 posts)He would make the tenant do it.
tikka
(762 posts)carpets life is usually five years and hands off service animals (and even companion animals in some cases). Since you are training your own, you definitely need check out the Fair Housing act.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)Rental law varies from state to state. Get a police report on the 911 letter and see what legal counsel is available. In most states, you must be given 30 days to vacate. But you have to check your state's laws on the matter.
Also, review the lease. Does it say you have to replace the carpet? In most states, *they* do...not you.
I wish you the best of luck
Quackers
(2,256 posts)We're in Ohio. I'll have to check it. I know we haven't signed anything since our original 12 month lease almost 5 years ago.
CrawlingChaos
(1,893 posts)You need an advocate - I would waste no time getting in touch with your local tenant's rights organization. Not sure what state you're in but I feel sure your landlord's behavior is well beyond what is permitted by any city or state.
That's great that you have recordings. You might also want to start keeping a journal of all your contact with him, which could be helpful later.
I know in California he would have no right to just show up and demand entry, barring an obvious emergency. Kills me that he's trying to get you to pay to replace a 10-year old carpet! (glad you have that exchange recorded) That carpet has lived it's useful life and has no value at this point! It's HIS responsibility to replace it! How can someone be a landlord for years and not have some idea of his tenant's rights and his own responsibilities? This guy sounds like a real piece of work.
Good luck Quackers!
Quackers
(2,256 posts)It struck me odd he would get back out of his truck just to say what he did about my disability. I wonder if I have the right to request the maintenance log for this place. I'd like to see when he did everything last.
southmost
(759 posts)if the landlord feels things aren't working out he can always modify lease terms upon renewal...there is no need for him to just want to barge in like that
Quackers
(2,256 posts)We haven't done a new lease since. The doctor prescribed my a service dog in February of this year. We sent him notice a couple months ago. Today is the first time anything was said after he spotted it in our front yard.
nadine_mn
(3,702 posts)Tenancy. Of course varies by state law. I'm not sure if old lease conditions matter. In addition to contacting legal aid, make sure to check any disability or housing advocacy groups in your area..they can be a wealth of info.
I am so sorry you are dealing with such an asshole. Make sure to document everything...what a jerk.
meow2u3
(24,761 posts)Doggie is a working animal and his or her job is to do things for you you can't do yourself.
I would get an attorney ASAP if I were you. But it's up to you to prove the dog is a specially trained service animal.
tikka
(762 posts)former9thward
(31,948 posts)He originally signed a 12 month lease but that was long ago. legally he now has a month to month lease and either side can vacate or evict with 30 days notice.
Quackers
(2,256 posts)former9thward
(31,948 posts)yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)They are ABSOLUTELY allowed in taverns and apartments
Quackers
(2,256 posts)Some other stuff about my disability too.
Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)There are federal and state guidelines regarding discrimination.
Stonepounder
(4,033 posts)I suspect that without a lease, it is a month to month rental. If so, then typically, you can vacate with 30 days notice and he can evict with 30 days notice, with no need to explain why.
But absolutely check with an attorney for the laws in Ohio.
If he hasn't done any painting or new carpets for 8-10 years he is going to have some significant expenses if he evicts you and look to rent to someone else. Your attorney might be able to point that out to him.
Good luck!
Quackers
(2,256 posts)Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)than he can end lease with 30 day notice and no reason need be given.
csziggy
(34,131 posts)This is a Ohio Poverty Law Center publication: LANDLORD-TENANT LAW: What You Should Know!
That has a lot of the information you need to know.
Also, for help find your Ohio Legal Aid office online at http://www.ohiolegalservices.org/programs, or call 1-866-LAW-OHIO (1-866-529-6446).
Igel
(35,282 posts)It's clear to you. He probably received it. But get a copy of the doctor's note and proof that the pooch is being service trained and have it sent to him certified. Get that signature showing that he received it, with a time and date.
With those two things include a letter saying what they are, and state that you sent him a copy before (print out email and include it) and in the body of the letter include the address you sent it to, the date, and summary of the contents. Place it on him to deny that he got it, when faced with the printout of the email. Alternatively, there may be some error so that he never did get it and he assumes that you are milking your disability.
Remove that option. The fastest way to make an asshole into an enemy is to treat him like one by assuming ill will when he may just be an asshole.
I'm going to assume that if he's been a landlord for more than a year or two (and he has) he's run into people who violate their lease and have all kinds of creative and interesting reasons for it, but are just playing to see how much they can get by with.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)That us federal law as far as taking the dog into public places.
Depending on state law and a few other factors your landlord might have a case.
Quackers
(2,256 posts)In addition, I also have documentation protecting him as an emotional support animal. nt
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)you need to find out exactly what the landlord/tenant laws are where you are. Many of them are local/municipal/city laws.
And now that you are on month-to-month, many of the conditions of your lease may no longer apply.
As someone else has pointed out, a service dog in training is not yet a certified service dog. You do need to gather all of the documentation around your need for this dog. Sending him an email was not the best way to notify him. Regular mail, or better yet certified mail might be better, and you could still send him that documentation by certified mail.
Here's something else you want to think about: if he's behaving this way do you really want to stay? A landlord can make your life hell. I know that moving is not fun and often a huge hassle, but it might be the best thing.
And your disability does not give you blanket immunity from keeping your side of the renter/landlord agreement. I know that sounds harsh, but it's true.
His coming by every month is problematical, dog or no dog. Does he give you advance notice? In most jurisdictions he needs to. Of course if he does give the notice, you are the renter, and you must allow him reasonable access to your place.
Again, you need to find out exactly what the relevant laws are where you live. Some cities have something on the order of an ombudsman who deals with these things.
Good luck to you and keep us posted.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)Call legal aid too, but honestly they're usually useless and slow so don't count on that.
Document the condition of the place yourself. Take pictures with a copy of the current paper to verify the date.
Double check what the local rules are for notice of an inspection. It doesn't *sound* valid but I have no blessed idea about Ohio.
Security cameras are cheap these days. If he's going to show up and be a shouty weirdo investing in one would be a really good idea. In a pinch you can even use an old smartphone. http://fieldguide.gizmodo.com/how-to-turn-an-old-smartphone-into-a-home-security-came-1765700271
edit: Specific Ohio service animal info here: http://www.disabilityrightsohio.org/service-animals
Biaviians
(167 posts)Why would your wife call 911? Was there an emergency? Your landlord isn't allowed to just show up and demand entrance to begin with. Wall to wall carpeting is always a disaster. Just replace it after you leave. It's just going to get messed up again by life before you move out. Yes it's the dog btw and would think its legally in your right to have a dog for disability but not sure when you rent you rent and may have to play by their rules.
Quackers
(2,256 posts)Plus he had the kids scared.
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Seek counsel.
But kniw the law and courts...favor landlords
Samantha
(9,314 posts)My neighbors and I have had some incidents with prowlers breaking into our sheds and peeking into our windows.
My brother installed it and told me I had to post signs in my windows THIS PROPERTY IS PROTECTED BY SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY. He said it was the law in the State of Maryland. I noticed your mention of cameras and you might want to find out (quietly) if your state has the same law.
I think you are being discriminated against. You might want to check with the Americans with Disabilities Act personnel. I found this link which has a number you can call to ask questions:
https://adata.org/technical-assistance (Ask ADA Questions) but you can also email them.
You might also want to check with the landlord/tenant organization which covers your area and ask them your questions. On the other hand, you might prefer other sources.
If you are a veteran, you might want to check with the Veteran's Association. The Justice Department covers discrimination because of a disability.
Good luck to you.
Sam
Quackers
(2,256 posts)Public and on your private property. I'll double check.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Do that first thing tomorrow. Know your rights for sure and what the prospects are for winning a case. Then you can make appropriate decisions.
Quackers
(2,256 posts)The people I talked to today were very concerned with the statements he made.