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cali

(114,904 posts)
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 12:22 PM Jun 2016

Fine with me. House votes to nix military bands at dinners, dances



WASHINGTON — The next base Christmas party might not feature any active-duty flutists or tuba players.

The House on Thursday passed legislation sponsored by former A-10 pilot Rep. Martha McSally, R-Ariz., that bars the military from using its many troop bands to entertain at dinners, dances and social events.

The bill limits performances to formal military ceremonies and funeral honors.

It is the latest attempt to cut back the roughly $500 million that the Defense Department spends annually on bands, which date back to the birth of the country’s armed forces but have recently run into criticism as Congress wrangles with tight budgets.

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http://okinawa.stripes.com/news/house-votes-nix-military-bands-dinners-dances
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Fine with me. House votes to nix military bands at dinners, dances (Original Post) cali Jun 2016 OP
Never fear, there's outside contractors ready to step in... JHB Jun 2016 #1
I don't know whether to laugh or cry. cali Jun 2016 #2
It all depends on your sodium intake... JHB Jun 2016 #4
Bingo. Else You Are Mad Jun 2016 #5
No, the band members won't be making that much... JHB Jun 2016 #7
People that work for military contractors Else You Are Mad Jun 2016 #11
Those guys weren't playing in a band JHB Jun 2016 #12
Sadly, you are probably right. AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #15
Absolutely matt819 Jun 2016 #19
Yes. When I have $500 million to cut, I always start with the band. CincyDem Jun 2016 #3
That's what happens in Education AwakeAtLast Jun 2016 #21
I would rather they spent ten billion on bands and half a billion on guns. CBGLuthier Jun 2016 #6
Damn... 3catwoman3 Jun 2016 #8
WINNER!!!!! monmouth4 Jun 2016 #10
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2016 #13
Damn right, & stopping the hoooge war profiteering. dmr Jun 2016 #18
So much waste in government... everywhere. Seems like an odd place to start but it's a start. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2016 #9
Now they can campaign on having cut military spending. L. Coyote Jun 2016 #14
Well there won't be enough musicians in the future.......... mrmpa Jun 2016 #16
Musicians in US military bands, most if not all of them as far as I know, pangaia Jun 2016 #17
The House voted????? tavernier Jun 2016 #20
They will now take an extended recess AwakeAtLast Jun 2016 #22

JHB

(37,154 posts)
4. It all depends on your sodium intake...
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 12:36 PM
Jun 2016

If it's too high, tears will help get rid of some of the excess.

Otherwise, crazed laughter.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
5. Bingo.
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 12:40 PM
Jun 2016

Each band member will be making $100,000 or more a year and the final cost will be MUCH higher than $500 million... But we all know the GOP is more concerned about privatizing everything than ACTUALLY saving money or any reduction in spending.

JHB

(37,154 posts)
7. No, the band members won't be making that much...
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 12:45 PM
Jun 2016

...though the contract holder will bill the government for that amount. The musicians are mere subcontractors.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
11. People that work for military contractors
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 01:06 PM
Jun 2016

Tend to make a good amount of money. I read somewhere the contractors in Iraq were making $100,000 or more.

JHB

(37,154 posts)
12. Those guys weren't playing in a band
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 01:29 PM
Jun 2016

Members of a contractor band would make more than their service pay, but the real money would still go to the overall contractor.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
19. Absolutely
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 03:02 PM
Jun 2016

Follow the money and you'll find that this fraud is connected to musicians. Is Big Music a thing?

What's the move going to save? A few million dollars. How about the f35 or gr long range standoff weapon. Those two programs alone are likely to run to more then 60 billion over their lifetimes.

As with airport security, this is simply theater.

CincyDem

(6,336 posts)
3. Yes. When I have $500 million to cut, I always start with the band.
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 12:31 PM
Jun 2016

And when asked to list all of the actions she took to save money for the country, at the top of her list will be:

"I replaced the live band with a DJ"



Yeah - that'll make a dent.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
6. I would rather they spent ten billion on bands and half a billion on guns.
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 12:44 PM
Jun 2016

Oh well, 'merica gots its priorities.

dmr

(28,344 posts)
18. Damn right, & stopping the hoooge war profiteering.
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 02:43 PM
Jun 2016

Argh ....

Maybe I lack understanding of this issue, but I would imagine it would be quite an honor to perform before their President - the Commander & Chief - and his/her guests.

And, why shouldn't the White House utilize, and honor a band or chorale that is at his/her disposal.

If the Republicans really wanted to save money, then they need to do away with shit like the 50-some votes to disband the ACA, cut out the multiple & useless investigations that have repeatedly been determined as non-issues - year after year after year ....

They want to save money, then they need to do their fucking job, and work on something that will benefit American society.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
9. So much waste in government... everywhere. Seems like an odd place to start but it's a start.
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 12:53 PM
Jun 2016

Now how about mandating every federal building have solar panels and extending the service life of every vehicle the government buys by two years, barring accidents and catastrophic failures.

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
16. Well there won't be enough musicians in the future..........
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 01:52 PM
Jun 2016

anyway, due to the lack of funding for the arts in public schools.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
17. Musicians in US military bands, most if not all of them as far as I know,
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 02:06 PM
Jun 2016

are generally not paid per service. Each musician has an annual salary and benefits, the same as all service members do.



tavernier

(12,368 posts)
20. The House voted?????
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 03:18 PM
Jun 2016

What craziness is this? Poor babies must be exhausted!!

Will wonders never cease! Next you'll tell us they haven't voted themselves a raise for next year.

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