How cool would this be for DU?

[RobertEarl]

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What if we opened the gates and let everyone in?

Yes, let the Trumpsters in; at least for a while. Drop all front-gate censorship and have real, live, open debates.

Those that love censorship could alert and jury and hide and ban to their heart's content. But the rest of us just may learn a few things.

Don't get me wrong... it ain't gonna happen, but as a free-thinker and pretty fine debater, it would be interesting to me to see DU take on and destroy the republicans.

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PS. A careful reader will note that several replies are being ignored because the posters are on my ignore list. And I think you can see why?

[PoliticAverse]

1. And rename DU to the Discussionist. n/t

[pinboy3niner]

6. Bingo!

But Skinner would have to rename DU to something like... Percussionist.

[RobertEarl]

7. True

But just for a while. Just to see what it is like and what they will be throwing at us over the next few months.

[pinboy3niner]

11. You can go elsewhere to find that

Terrible, horrible idea!

[RobertEarl]

14. The primary, they say, is over

And DU, is imo, about to become quite boring. And quiet. Yet be half full of Trump Ops, and stories about Trump this and Trump that.

Being an adventurous type is not for everyone, so I get the utter fear this idea makes some feel.

[tblue37]

16. Again, that is precisely what Discussionist is, so there is no need

to turn DU into Discussionist.

Most of us don't go to Discussionist specifically because we don't want to wade through the mierda when it gets that deep.

[RobertEarl]

24. Just think of the fun some could have

Those who live to alert and serve on juries would have all kinds of fun.

[pinboy3niner]

27. Why would we want to waste the time and energy?

We have better things to do. And yes, that even includes posting and enjoying pun threads and LOLcats.

[RobertEarl]

29. Yeah, see, that stuff is boring

I can get better puns and cats elsewhere. I come here for politics. See the title of the website?

I guess I am just no afraid of a good political debate and we haven't really had much of that in a long while.

[Gothmog]

32. Have you posted on the Discussionist?

That site is what you are proposing

[pinboy3niner]

36. See the array of DU groups and subgroups and forums and subforums?

DU serves the wide variety of interests of its members, both political and nonpolitical interests.

If you can't find wide-open political debate elsewhere on the web, you're doing it wrong. Because That's what most political discussion on the web is.

As others have suggested, go to DI and find out what kind of swamp you're advocating.

[RobertEarl]

41. You don't trust DU system?

OK.

I am not too keen in a closed system that is exclusive of outsiders. I have no fear of a few Trumpsters.

[pinboy3niner]

43. You're not getting it

Please, please just pass your suggestion to Skinner in ATA and spare us this nonsense.

[RobertEarl]

50. Dude!!

They have a little button that you can use to just trash this and go on your way. Geez, spare me yours.

[pinboy3niner]

53. So now you're in FAVOR of limiting discussion?

Disinviting comments on your thread?

[zappaman]

55. Performance art.

It has to be.

[JTFrog]

57. Or just classic trolling. nt

[RobertEarl]

58. Thanks for the kicks

That's like 6 posts here to say you are against. Nothing better to do, eh? Boring!

[pinboy3niner]

61. I am overwhelmed by your unwavering commitment to free discussion

Really, rruly, deeply. How can Skinner not be moved by your plea?

[RobertEarl]

62. 7!! Going for 8? Hell make it 10

You make me laugh.

Read the OP again, apparently for the first time.

Bwahahahaha.

[pinboy3niner]

65. Read the thread again, apparently for the first time

See who's being laughed at. And now I return to my own planet...Earth.

[RobertEarl]

66. From the OP, a quote

Don't get me wrong... it ain't gonna happen, but as a free-thinker and pretty fine debater, it would be interesting to me to see DU take on and destroy the republicans.

Heh, lots of ignored posters here. I think one can see why, eh?

Hopefully Skinner will take care of them come tomorrow.

[zappaman]

67. Zero Recs.

Not even one for the laughs?

[pinboy3niner]

72. Doesn't even warrant perverse recs

The "boring" hilarious door buzzard thread is far more entertaining.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027423760

[Chevy]

2. There is

no debating with Trump supporters etc just rants and raving.

[Ned_Devine]

21. And how is that different from debating HRC supporters?

Not at all

[Chevy]

25. Clearly you have

not tried to read political topics on Facebook Trending when they are swarmed by Trumpsters. Oh and Bernie supporters have nothing to brag about either.

[Ned_Devine]

28. I've been off Facebook for 5 years

I signed up here in January of 2004. I lost my password for my original account when I moved and created this new profile in 2006. Originally I came here as a place of solace during the crazy Bush years. Then they introduced the video section here and I would come here to watch the clips. During all of those years, I would leave minimal responses and posts, and I always came here during election seasons. This year I've come here to communicate with progressives and posted more than I ever did in my previous ten years. I think a lot of us originals will be leaving after today.

[applegrove]

3. I love the DU for the unmolested discussion we can have and the progressive ideas that are

introduced and discussed with duers who are honest brokers. It works. I can't wait to wake up tomorrow and have the GOP paid trolls without a way to mess us up.

[Loudestlib]

31. If you want "progressive ideas" then you picked the wrong candidate.

[applegrove]

45. Oh I think you will be amazed in the months and years to come.

[MADem]

4. It's horrid, and it would suck. That's what DISCUSSIONIST is for--easy format,

welcoming graphics, simple to use and all viewpoints are welcome.

This place is for Democrats, and our goal here is to elect more of them, and fewer Republicans to public office.

You can get plenty of Trumpeteering over at Discussionist--give it a go if that's your pleasure. You can fight with them, mock them, agree with them, whatever floats your boat.

[peace13]

9. Corrections.

This place was for Democrats. Now it's a place where some folks are looking to import people to fight with! Where some good solid Dems have been forced to turn away from. I hope she's worth it!

[peace13]

5. I was wondering who was going to be left to fight with.

Trumpsters would be a new low, but good luck with that!

[RobertEarl]

12. Heh

Yeah, with the Bernie folks laying low, there could quite possibly be some on here who would have someone else to unleash on, leaving us Berners alone.

[swhisper1]

8. that is what discussionist is, DUs sister site

[Trust Buster]

10. Might be a good idea if the Republicans had a legitimate candidate. I don't know what kind of

honest debate you would expect from a Trump supporter.

[AgadorSparticus]

15. That is what discussionist is for and no thanks. I hear too much of their crap

In the media and in Facebook as is. I come to DU to get away from that madness.

[RobertEarl]

19. But with hides and bans

We could winnow thru the utter crap and maybe find a few Americans that offer some sense.

I mean, c'mon, DU is about to become boring as hell.

[AgadorSparticus]

22. Have you been there yet? I went and looked. They have people on there

That are pretty aggressive and nasty supporting Trump. It is all about snark. It was too reminicent of FR to me spewing the same RW crap.

[Gothmog]

35. The trump zupporters are very active on DI

[AgadorSparticus]

59. What is DI?

[AgadorSparticus]

26. P.s. it will never be boring. This is the most exciting election cycle to date.

We are witnessing trump unknowingly orchestrating the destruction of the gop. I don't know about you, but I am excited as hell.

<----me, the next 5 months

[RobertEarl]

30. Yep

DU is gonna be full of Trump this and Trump that anyway.

Last time I looked, GD was half full of Trump threads.

Trust me, DU is getting ever so boring and about to be more so.

[AgadorSparticus]

33. Ok, Robert Earl, if you go to discussionist, I will look for you

[RobertEarl]

37. You won't find me there

Again, I am not scared of a good debate. DU has a majority of good Leftists and a jury system, so only Trumpsters on their best behavior will last more than a few posts.

See, I believe in DU. Oh, my faith is dashed on the rocks many a day, but that's life. Like I say, we have many fine Leftists here, so we will always win the debates.

[AgadorSparticus]

44. I don't mind a good debate. It is the snark I don't like. It closers the door

To intellectual exchange. I used to learn so much about anything and everything here on DU. The last few months seems to have been all about personalities. I think (hoping?) that moving to the GE will stimulate those discussions again.

[RobertEarl]

49. I checked your journal

And lo and behold you are not in favor of debates!

[AgadorSparticus]

51. I pick my battles. But not a lot this season to really debate.

[Solly Mack]

17. Cool?

Snort

[cherokeeprogressive]

18. Nnnnnnnnnnope.

[ohnoyoudidnt]

20. That's a negative, Ghost Rider. nt

[RobertEarl]

23. I'm not afraid of a challenge

The other sites are not worthy of my time. But DU can be worthy because of its YUUGE base of progressive Democrats and it's jury system.

Besides, mark my words, DU is about to get very boring.

[JimDandy]

38. The Progressives are going elsewhere.

What's going to be left are mostly Clinton Dems, so yes it will be a boring echo chamber soon.

[fishwax]

34. Why? There are other places for that.

[RobertEarl]

39. Not like DU

I'm not afraid of a few well-behaved Trumpsters. If there are any. That's what I'd like to find out.

[zappaman]

52. Says the guy who started a thread entitled

"Here's why we should ignore South Carolina vote"

"Exit polls from SC show 19% want more progress, the other 81% are happy with the way things are or want to go backward.

1% of the under 30 crowd voted and it's probably because they are scared.

Forget SC, it is among the most backwards of states with some of the meanest people I have ever met. It is not far from being a slave state again, only the federal government keeps it from doing so.

SC retains the Master/servant style of population. Hillary represents the master class well, with her riches and standing. Bernie, being Jewish and a white male has three strikes against him.

The poor people of that state have my utmost sympathy. They have been beaten down and oppressed for so long they don't know what's up."



Good luck wherever you go, Bob!

[Eko]

42. Not at all. Wow.

This sounds like a plea to let the Bernie supporters who want to not abide by the rules come Monday to stay and keep on spouting every conspiracy theory they want. Couldn't be that could it?

[RobertEarl]

48. What conspiracy theories?

Like the conspiracy that bush set up with the voting machines that they used to steal elections? And that the machines are still being used? Is that a theory? I think not. It's all too true.

[Eko]

60. Is that why Obama

won twice, he stole the elections?

[RobertEarl]

64. No

Obama won because the turnout was so great. And now republicans control congress and most states due to the system.

So, you are in denial about the vote counting system that bush set up?

Tell me why you have faith in that system.

[Eko]

68. Wait,

so the elections were stolen by Bush, then not by Obama, then again by the republicans then again by Clinton. Somehow they were asleep during the eight years of Obama?

[Eko]

69. except for the midterms of course,

[RobertEarl]

71. There ya go! Except for the midterms.

You are catching on.

Not only that, in states where Obama won, like Florida, the republicans won a whole bunch of state seats. So, Obama gets all those votes and then the voters turn around and vote republicans down ticket? SURE!

They could not beat Obama, but they sure beat the democrats and you now have a clue, Good for you!

[Eko]

73. That would be totally true!

If one didn't know the actual turnout of Democrats during the midterms. Pesky facts!.

[RobertEarl]

74. No, that wasn't midterms

When Obama was top of ticket, the down ticket Dems lost those votes.

[Eko]

75. So the powers that be that control the voting machines

were like "Cool Obama, bad other dems" is that what you are saying? Really?

[RobertEarl]

76. No. Obama could hardly be beat

Obama had an overwhelming turnout. Yet many down ticket Dems lost. So, yes, they turned their attention to the down ticket races. In doing so they covered themselves and even have people convinced that if Obama won, the system is fine. Like you.

In 2012, anonymous took credit for fixing the system in the Romney vs Obama race. Rove sat there on Fox news surprised that Ohio did not turn out the way he expected. Anonymous fixed his cooking,

The number crunchers have stated they have evidence that as many as 7 million votes were stolen from Obama.

Even when pure evidence of the machines miscounting votes appeared, judges allowed the owners of the voting machines to keep their hidden programming hidden.

But since Obama won the system is just fine!! Fooled again!!

[Eko]

77. I worry about you Robert.

[RobertEarl]

78. That's so cute

You are worried about me, and I am worried about our Democracy.

You have faith in the bushes' vote counting system, and that says a lot about you.

[pinboy3niner]

79. This thread proves how a fucking load of horseshit plays on DU

Thankyou.

[RobertEarl]

80. Yes you are

You did well dishing it out. Tell me, you have faith in the bush voting machines also?

[Eko]

81. Ah ya know,

I can worry about multiple things at once dont cha know. Science deals with testable repeatable things. When they are not such things we tend to look at outside factors and use those to adjust our theories. When the adjustments tend to lead to other evidence that is testable and repeatable we tend to believe in that other that wild conspiracy theories people come up with to say why their preferred candidate lost.

[RobertEarl]

82. Good excuse making

There is a large body of evidence of global warming and there too are the deniers.

There is a large body of evidence of vote stealing and there are the deniers of those facts and the science.

Are you a global warming denier also?

I note your total lack of any acknowledgement of the evidence presented here tonight, and only can see that you have been fooled again by the bushes.

[zappaman]

46. So long Bob!

I hope you find a site more to your liking!

[pinboy3niner]

47. I think you mean ' 'Bye Felicia'

[Warpy]

54. Here you go

http://www.discussionist.com/

[RobertEarl]

56. That's not DU

This is DU. What's your name over there?

[zappaman]

63. Be Free to tell us your name over there, Bob.

[Warpy]

70. You already have your ideal site

so leave this one alone. Door/smack/cracked

[NanceGreggs]

83. How cool would THIS be?

DU returns to being a Dem-supporting site, as per its own original statement of purpose?

[pinboy3niner]

84. An OP that proves DU still allows members to post pure horse puckey

Congratlations!

[RobertEarl]

85. Yes they do allow you to post here!

Take a bow!

[Bensonhurst_braciole]

86. If anything we need more restrictions around here.

[Mr Maru]

87. No.

[LostOne4Ever]

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