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[kpete]

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/744838252369043456


No, you weren't you lying idiot.
You were talking about drunk, armed people on the dance floor.


YOUR WORDS MR. TRUMP:

At a rally in The Woodlands, Texas, Friday night, Trump theatrically said he wished the shooter, Omar Mateen, would have been taken down by an armed Pulse clubgoer.

"If we had people with the bullets going in the opposite direction — right smack between the eyes of this maniac," Trump said, pointing in a gun gesture to his forehead. "If some of those wonderful people had guns strapped right here, right to their waist or right to their ankle, and this son of a bitch comes out and starts shooting, and one of the people in that room happened to have it and goes boom, boom, you know what? That would have been a beautiful, beautiful sight, folks, that would have been a beautiful, beautiful sight."

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/283991-trump-it-wouldve-been-beautiful-thing-for-fla-clubgoer-to-kill

NRA Officials Concede Bar-Goers Who Are Drinking Shouldn't Be Armed
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/nra-clubs-guns-orlando

Trump’s Relentless Assault on the Truth
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/trumps_relentless_assault_on_the_truth_20160618

[spanone]

1. if his disgusting mouth is moving, he's lying.

[Betty Karlson]

2. Here's an idea: how about we adopt the Australian model?

You know: buying up guns, grace period followed by strict prohibition of nearly all gun posession? And then dramatically dropping numbers of gun-related homicide?

Sound good?

(It probably does to anyone who is not in the pay of the NRA.)

[LoverOfLiberty]

4. I'm pretty anti-gun myself

but your proposal would likely not work.

First of all, there are millions and millions of guns in the hands of citizens. How are you going to force people to give those up?
Second, even if we could get the existing guns out of the population, guns would flow over the Mexican border as easily as drugs do now. This is not a problem that Australia would likely have.

I wish I could follow this up with some sort of solution. I think the best I can come up with is banning all sem-automatic weapons and their ammunition, with very stiff penalties (5 years in jail) for possessing one. It certainly won't get them all off the streets but it will make them harder for people like the Orlando shooter to get.

People will always want weapons for hunting and self-defense.

[Separation]

9. One Problem

Well more than one, but the most obvious one is the ammo ban. Ammo crosses over between semi auto and bolt action. Even with pistol ammo. You can use a .45 in a Thompson Machine Gun as well as a 1911 semi auto pistol, as well as a 6 shooting wheel gun.

Whoever comes up with a solution has my vote for Nobel Peace for sure!

[Betty Karlson]

13. Canada has much stricter gun laws that the USA, and shares the longest border in the world

with the aforementioned USA. They manage to keep all unwanted guns and ammonition out of their country, and enjoy a VERY low number of gun-related homicide. I respectfully think that your objection ("the USA is not an island, therefore the stricter gun laws like in Australia wouldn't work&quot makes no sense. Because Canada.

Nor do I agree with your comparison with narcotic trade. If that were really true, the only way to combat narcotic trade would be to legalise it all. The situation is rather that narcotics can be smuggled in because smugglers on both sides of the border have easy access to weapons, and can therefore create a de facto violence monopoly to protect their narcotic trade oligopoly. Profits can be made where scarcety is manufactured and syndicated. Remove the access to the means for such manufactured monopolies (that is: the weapons) and the whole operation becomes riskier and less profitable. Legalise part of the drugs (for instance marijuana) while cracking down on weapons AND other narcotics, and the situation becomes even less attractive to smugglers.

Hunting and self-defense? Let me ask the selfish individuals who claim a right to weapons on that ground:

How many children and minority nightclub patrons have to die so you can have a pair of antlers on the wall? How many high school students must have nightmares for the rest of their lives so you can lull yourself into a complacent sleep?

Hunting gear can be stalled under government locks and keys, or additional tests and conditions can be set for hobby weapons. The best defense is when no-one has a weapon that can kill in the blink of an eye. And Australia has shown how such weapons can be quickly removed from circulation, and Canada has shown they can be kept out of the country.

[LoverOfLiberty]

15. Relax Betty

We are on the same side.

[Betty Karlson]

17. I know. I certainly don't count you among the selfish. eom

[maddiemom]

3. The "much different result"...

would have been more than twice as many dead. This is what passes for "thinking" in a presidential candidate today?

[kairos12]

5. In the Wizard Of Oz at least the con man had

the decency to hide behind the curtain. Don the Con has no no such modesty and will lie completely to our face.

[11 Bravo]

6. The vulgar, talking yam lies just to keep in practice.

[kimbutgar]

7. No matter what he says his brain washed zombie supporters will

Still vote for him in November. He can lie lie lie and they don't care.

[tk2kewl]

8. a lot of that going around

[Dustlawyer]

12. He is telling these wealthy supporters what they want to hear to get their donations!

Another instance of campaign finance corruption!

While Trump needs no excuse to lie, here he has a motive. He has been taking the Texas tour to raise money so he is playing to the worst RW nut jobs who also happen to have money!

[MrScorpio]

10. People who lie when they don't have to lie, like Trump here, are pretty much sick bastards

The most untrustworthy assholes there are... All just waiting to stab someone in the back for sport.

[NoMoreRepugs]

11. a (supposed) billionaire trying to sound like a tough guy is sooooo pathetic....

[Javaman]

14. Political Cuttle Fish...

he changes colors to fit his surroundings.

[niyad]

16. when even the head of the nra says that guns don't belong in bars,

then, either hell has actually frozen over, or you have gone so far that even your supporters finally realize that you are totally nuts.

[napkinz]

18. K&R