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What is so wrong with having a due process provision for the no fly list (Original Post) BlackLivesMatter Jun 2016 OP
What could be wrong with due process in any situation? (nt) enough Jun 2016 #1
Because you don't have to Peregrine Jun 2016 #2
There should be no such thing a s a no fly list. CBGLuthier Jun 2016 #3
I've wondered that too alc Jun 2016 #4
Due process should be upheld Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #5
Maybe because it doesn't work? Texasgal Jun 2016 #6
Due to the Republican refusal to confirm judges, nobody would be on the list due to the backlog. Shrike47 Jun 2016 #7
Because the government knows it wouldnt be able to prove its case much of the time davidn3600 Jun 2016 #8

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
3. There should be no such thing a s a no fly list.
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 07:17 PM
Jun 2016

If you aren't fit to fly then they should haul you in court and attempt to lock you up otherwise shitcan the stupid fucking thing.

alc

(1,151 posts)
4. I've wondered that too
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 07:20 PM
Jun 2016

I can see the need for a FISA (or similar secret) court in some cases though would like to see congressional oversight so they need more than "he visited Pakistan" to "convince" the secret court (one of my friends visits his mom in Pakistan once a year).

And if too many people are being put on the list for courts to deal with it we probably have a real problem or a problem with too many people put on the list without evidence.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
7. Due to the Republican refusal to confirm judges, nobody would be on the list due to the backlog.
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 08:22 PM
Jun 2016

Also, the Homeland Security folks don't want to have to go to court and explain just why they think you're dangerous. That could be, say, because they have a warrant and are listening to your phone calls but think there's a plot in motion and don't want to tip you off; or it could be they are tapping your phone without a warrant and don't want their asses sued. Or it could be they have you mixed up with somebody else and have no reason at all.

All in all, I think there should be some sort of hearing/ review process.

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