No jury calls today

[Duckhunter935]

Good, I hope it holds. Been doing 3-4 per day

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. I just had one...

It was interesting in the new format.

Wish I could find out the outcome.

[MissB]

5. I had one too.

I like the new format - it takes away a good deal of context but it gives you a few more choices. All in all, I think I like it better.

I knew what thread the alert was from because I'd read it earlier but moved on to read another forum. When I returned to the thread after weighing in as a juror, I noted that the post was removed. And I couldn't tell from the thread who the author was. I like all of that about this new system. It strikes me as moving towards a new sense of fairness.

[metroins]

2. Two here

I like the old jury better.

It was fun.

This one is....arms length and cold feeling.

[unc70]

8. Had two similar experiences

Didn't feel like I had enough context.

One of mine was for a thread from yesterday that I had remembered.
Was an alert for something barely any reason. It looked like someone had gone back and alerted on posts done under the old system, still trying to settle scores.

[TipTok]

9. While I haven't had one yet...

I don't understand the point of the really bad, kinda bad, almost bad, not bad grading system...

[Cal Carpenter]

28. I believe that under the new system, those of us

without donor stars cannot be part of a jury.

ETA: LOL, I guess I was wrong because when I clicked to post this, I was immediately asked to participate in jury duty. Wonder why I had that impression?

[caraher]

63. You're not crazy

That was proposed, limiting juries to star folks, but at the last minute they changed their minds.

[ChazII]

42. I agree with you.

Served on first jury with the new format and I found it to use your words "arms length and cold".

[Just reading posts]

3. I just alerted on a post and got it hidden.

The poster said they wished Trump had been shot. That's not the sort of thing that should be here.

[MissB]

6. Well done.

That seems like it's pretty darned clear.

[BlueCaliDem]

29. Very well done, JRP.

[Gabi Hayes]

44. rumor has that somebody got pulled for disagreeing that obama was the most liberal

president ever

not kidding

[lancer78]

47. I had a post pulled

suggesting Trump was a plant encouraged by Bill Clinton.

[TDale313]

4. Had 1. I do kinda like the new format. n/t

[NastyRiffraff]

7. Just had one

I like the new format; it eliminates a lot of biases. I understand people want to comment, but most comments devolved into nasty sniping. (I was guilty of that myself at times.)

[AllyCat]

10. I had one that was strangely formatted.

And then no mail to say results. Was it a test? If so, I probably failed.

[Duckhunter935]

11. No results anymore per the rules

[trueblue2007]

40. NO RESULTS????? i LIKED FINDING OUT THE RESULTS.

I WILL NO LONGER BE A JURY PERSON IF I CAN'T FIND OUT THE RESULTS.

[trueblue2007]

41. I just took myself off the willing to serve. If I can't find out what happened....

I don't want to be involved.

[Chemisse]

51. That's how I feel too.

That was the most rewarding part of the process.

[trof]

64. Same here.

[chillfactor]

12. I had several jury calls under old system....

nothing under new system but understand jurors now do not see the results...what is the sense of being on a jury and not knowing the end result? Seems like a waste of time.

[moriah]

14. It's to limit disruptive meta, to my knowledge. Nt

[Warpy]

13. I had one

Alerter didn't know Lincoln Chaffee had become a Democrat in 2013.

I'm a little disappointed we don't know how it went now.

[OnlinePoker]

25. I guess you could keep a record of the J.D. thread and go back and check

If it's still there, it wasn't voted to be deleted.

[Warpy]

30. Aw, that's too much trouble in triple digit weather

Maybe I'll get that kind of ambition in winter.

[SMC22307]

15. I miss the "closure" of knowing how the vote went.

And, also, of the Alerter stating his or her case.

The old system could be fun; the new, not so much.

[Lancero]

36. The old system allowed leeway.

The new system doesn't.

Given how many people here are against 'zero tolerance' rules and the like, it's odd to see so many people being happy about the site switching to a zero tolerance ruling system.

I suppose though that we have leeway in alerting on the post though, which is a good thing for this topic since quite a few posts here are going against the 'no posting about site moderation' rule.

[mrmpa]

16. I had one today about 5 hours ago.......

and never got an email about the results.

[progree]

17. I've had two - the first one was a clear hide, and the new system made it clean and

simple. I also found the result - I did a google search immediately after and found it in the Google cache.

The second one was a bit smoggy. I felt if I had a little more context, I would have been able to make a better decision (I think I made the wrong decision about a minute after I voted after I had mulled it over a bit). In the old system, I often learned something by reading up and down the subthread that affected my vote.

I couldn't find this second one in Google. I sure miss not getting the results. And I miss not reading the reasons -- oftentimes I learned something too from them. (Like, oops, I didn't know that, shoot, I voted the wrong way. Or someone simply stated a reason much more clearly than what was in my brain).

[Duckhunter935]

18. Just had my first one

Interesting, easy choice. Post was removed as I knew the thread to check.

[ChazII]

43. Thank you for expressing my thoughts

in a manner more eloquent than I would have been able to express. I liked being able to get more information by reading the thread if more information was required. As in a real jury, the jurors are allowed to ask questions - at least here in Maricopa County.

[ProfessorGAC]

19. One For Me Yesterday

I like the clear delineation as to the rule breaking, or not. Like others here, not sure i'm happy about the "no feedback" piece.

[dembotoz]

20. it was always interesting to get the results of your jury

kinda a quick way to see if your opinion is mainstream du or more wacky

not that i changed my mind much on stuff
i remain the wacky lefty i have always been

[pintobean]

21. The new system is boring

At least the old system could be interesting.

[immoderate]

31. That is correct.

--imm

[Exilednight]

22. I had one yesterday. Post was removed.

[Capt. Obvious]

35. I had one where the post stayed, only to later one get removed

for breaking another rule.

[TacoD]

23. I used to get 3 to 4 a week, now I will need to get to 1000 posts to qualify again

I mainly lurk, but I get on the site almost every day, and enjoyed having a say in the moderation. I imagine I'll get to 1000 in another year or so.

[femmocrat]

24. I have done two.

I think they lack context. Without the information from the alerter, I had no way of knowing if the post was inappropriate, without doing some research. Who has time for that?

Also, I pity whoever has the job of selecting the relevant discussion and replies. Who has time for that?!

[redstatebluegirl]

26. I had one but not the 2 or 3 I had been doing thankfully!

[onecaliberal]

27. I got one today, hours ago, and still haven't heard if it was hidden or left??

[progree]

32. You never will. Telling jurors the results has been done away with. Just be happy you did

your civic duty and all that good heart-warming stuff.

I've had some luck with Google finding the thread to see what happened -- Most google results have a cache too to see an earlier version ...

[MFM008]

33. ive had 2

since yesterday.

[Lancero]

34. Had one earlier, a topic praising the admins for the new jury rules.

Hilariously, under the new rules such a post isn't allowed.

One guess as to how I voted on that.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

37. Right. This whole thread is against the new rules...

... so this post should soon be hidden/removed?

[Lancero]

38. Assuming that someone alerts on it.

Under the new rules, a lot of the topics posts aren't allowed.

Be it criticism, or praise.

[REP]

39. I think I just did my 5th

[Crunchy Frog]

45. That's what happens when you get a bunch of posts hidden.

Just FYI.

[pablo_marmol]

46. You're suggesting that the OP has had posts hidden?

Or just engaging in speculation?

[Crunchy Frog]

48. Check his profile. n/t

[Duckhunter935]

49. Look at the date of the OP

FYI, have been getting 1-2 per day now as the new system works in. The OP was about the changeeover. Nice to know you care about me to worry about some hidden posts. At least I do not have 17-18 like some around here.

[Duckhunter935]

50. He is correct but

They were hidden way before the OP and do not make a difference. Nice of him to care about me to check my profile. I actually think it is because I believe in the RKBA and he does not like that. That is why he is going through old posts looking for posts ......

[Crunchy Frog]

59. You're flattering yourself, Miss Duckhunter.

I spent all of about 5 seconds clicking on your profile when I happened to come across this thread. Didn't even notice the date on it, as you pointed out.

I've got far more entertaining things to do than stalking your old posts...like yanking my own teeth out.

Your love of guns just doesn't make you that interesting, lady.

[Duckhunter935]

60. I am a male not a female

But that is OK

[Crunchy Frog]

61. Just goes to show how seriously I take my stalking.

Apologies. And I'm female BTW.

[BeyondGeography]

52. I give the new system an Unrec

And, like Unrec, I hope it goes away too.

[Duckhunter935]

53. I think it is better than the old one

But still not perfect.

[BeyondGeography]

54. The old one was fine until fair-minded people got somewhat swamped

I don't blame the admins.

[Duckhunter935]

57. Yes, it got abused

[Adrahil]

55. None today so far....

but the GOP BENGHAZIIII!!!! report came out today, so I expect a few trolls to express their "concern."



I like the new jury system, EXCEPT I'd like a way of knowing the results. Not just becuase of curiosity, but to see if I am in synch with how my fellow DUers are interpreting the rules. I am sometimes annoyed I don't have enough context, but I understand that they are attempting to limit how factionalization affects the system.

[Duckhunter935]

58. I agree

Would love to at least get a results message

[GOLGO 13]

56. I don't like it now. So I have decided how I will always vote from here on out for all juries.

Whatever.

[mentalsolstice]

62. Some of it makes sense

Not seeing names makes sense, although that never mattered to me with the old way. However, I would rather have the old black and white decision choices, without the shades of gray. I would like to see the alerter's comments about why they think a rule was broken, again names aren't necessary. I feel jurors should likewise also be able to comment. And I feel jurors should be allowed to see the results and comments of their fellow jurors. If the admins feel that posting results creates too much drama, they could institute a rule about that, with severe penalties if broken.